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    Should we use RFA tenders on Reed, Harewood, and Cox?



    Pitta, Arthur Jones, and Ed Dickson are all pretty certain to be on the roster next season playing under RFA (restricted free agent) tenders. Pitta, and Art Jones will likely receive 2nd round tenders, which costs roughly $2.023M against the cap. Ed Dickson will likely receive a low tender, which will cost roughly $1.303M against the cap. So in total, that's around $5.349M to re-sign all three for another year.

    We also have three other RFAs that aren't quite secure. Ramon Harewood, David Reed, and Morgan Cox. Morgan Cox is a long snapper, and IMO, it just doesn't make sense to pay a long snapper more than what most of you're rookies are earning. Then there's Harewood, and Reed to consider, and both don't seem likely to be anything other than depth players. Assuming the Ravens give low tenders to all three of them, that's going to cost around $3.90M against the cap. Lets just say you let all three walk, and sign an UDRFA long snapper in the offseason, which would be a significantly cheaper option, and replace Harewood and Reed with low round/undrafted rookies. You could be saving roughly $2.685M doing it that way. I know that's not much, but every little helps this year for us. It could be the difference of being $4.394M under the cap going into FA (BEFORE cuts, extensions, or restructures worked out.), and $1.709M under.

    It could possibly be the difference of for example re-signing Ellerbe. Would you take Ellerbe over Morgan Cox, Ramon Harewood, and David Reed? I sure as hell would.




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    Re: Should we use RFA tenders on Reed, Harewood, and Cox?

    I think I'm with you on each point. Harewood is the enigma. Just WHY was he ever made a starter? Were we totally banged-up and there was NO one else? Did he show something in practice that did not materilaize in games. Why did he totally disappear?

    On Cox, sure would be great to get an LS who could fill in on the O line if needed. I could understand the FO keeping Cox if they credit him with being important to our excellent bkicking game. If it ain't broke . . .




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    Re: Should we use RFA tenders on Reed, Harewood, and Cox?

    Harewood started because he supposedly had a really good TC, but I think it was also due to the ineptitude of Bobbie Williams. In the end the Oline should have ben McKinnie-KO-Birk-Yanda-Oher all along, but Harewood actually played better than Bobbie did whenever he was in. I wouldn't be over 1 million dollars for a guy who's likely never going to start again.




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    Re: Should we use RFA tenders on Reed, Harewood, and Cox?

    You know, your line of thinking with the long snapper is exactly why the New York Giants used to screw the pooch in the postseason, before they eventually came around to winning the Super Bowl. Special teams takes timing, rhythm and stability to be successful. You can't just go cheap everywhere. It's not that hard to end up with a long snapper that shoots it high and costs you a game. You get what you pay for.

    As for Ramon Harewood, his talent will lend to him getting the low tender and playing out his rookie contract. The one guy I would not tender is David Reed.
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    Re: Should we use RFA tenders on Reed, Harewood, and Cox?

    If the Ravens choose to keep Jacoby Jones and plan on drafting a WR, I see the handwriting on the wall for David Reed. With limited value at that point, he might end up like Marcus Smith, losing out in a numbers game.




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    Re: Should we use RFA tenders on Reed, Harewood, and Cox?

    Quote Originally Posted by alien bird View Post
    If the Ravens choose to keep Jacoby Jones and plan on drafting a WR, I see the handwriting on the wall for David Reed. With limited value at that point, he might end up like Marcus Smith, losing out in a numbers game.
    Unless its Tavon Austin the Ravens probably aren't drafting a receiver. Their first 3 are set (pending potential restructures) with Tandon Doss being giving every chance to be the fourth receiver.

    I really think that Tommy Streeter will end up being the 5th receiver and may move up if he shows anything in practice. He's a 6'5" guy with speed but if he can consistently catch the ball he's going to be productive.




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    Re: Should we use RFA tenders on Reed, Harewood, and Cox?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Excellector View Post
    You know, your line of thinking with the long snapper is exactly why the New York Giants used to screw the pooch in the postseason, before they eventually came around to winning the Super Bowl. Special teams takes timing, rhythm and stability to be successful. You can't just go cheap everywhere. It's not that hard to end up with a long snapper that shoots it high and costs you a game. You get what you pay for.

    As for Ramon Harewood, his talent will lend to him getting the low tender and playing out his rookie contract. The one guy I would not tender is David Reed.
    We replaced a PK with an UDFA last offseason and it didn't work out too badly.




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    Re: Should we use RFA tenders on Reed, Harewood, and Cox?

    Quote Originally Posted by leachisabeast View Post
    We replaced a PK with an UDFA last offseason and it didn't work out too badly.
    A PK that sucked. Morgan Cox doesn't suck. There's no need to replace him.

    ......lol
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    Re: Should we use RFA tenders on Reed, Harewood, and Cox?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Excellector View Post
    You know, your line of thinking with the long snapper is exactly why the New York Giants used to screw the pooch in the postseason, before they eventually came around to winning the Super Bowl. Special teams takes timing, rhythm and stability to be successful. You can't just go cheap everywhere. It's not that hard to end up with a long snapper that shoots it high and costs you a game. You get what you pay for.

    As for Ramon Harewood, his talent will lend to him getting the low tender and playing out his rookie contract. The one guy I would not tender is David Reed.

    I'm with you on Morgan Cox. We've seen teams lose playoff games because of a long snapper. Since Cox has been here we've never even thought about the position. That's exactly what you want. I think it would be nuts not to tender him.
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    Re: Should we use RFA tenders on Reed, Harewood, and Cox?

    Quote Originally Posted by GOTA View Post
    I'm with you on Morgan Cox. We've seen teams lose playoff games because of a long snapper. Since Cox has been here we've never even thought about the position. That's exactly what you want. I think it would be nuts not to tender him.
    Remember that playoff comeback by the 49ers, over the Giants? I thought that Tom Coughlin was going to drink himself to sleep after that one.
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    Re: Should we use RFA tenders on Reed, Harewood, and Cox?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Excellector View Post
    The one guy I would not tender is David Reed.
    Wait...you are giving up on him Ex?

    Just messing with ya lol...
    Although Walsh's system of offense can compensate for lack of talent; however, defense is a different story. According to Walsh, talent on defense was essential and could not be compensated for. What did Walsh do in 1981? He acquired physical and talented players on defense.




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    Re: Should we use RFA tenders on Reed, Harewood, and Cox?

    Why can't we tender Kruger, or give him the tag and try to trade him? I see no one talk about this option. He's sure to get a demand that could net us something.




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