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**NCRAVEN** · 03-06-2013, 02:19 PM

Originally Posted by wickedsolo

I dont disagree with anything you've written at all. I own guns.

I was just pointing out the fact that just because someone claims drones can and are doing this wont mean much in the grand scheme of things because - in a court of law - you and I would never be able to prove otherwise due to a lot of drone technology and missions are highly classified. In a sense, highly classified things related to the government are kind of above the law because by the time it is introduced for declassification we will all be very old men.

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And I don't disagree with that either.

**HoustonRaven** · 03-06-2013, 03:02 PM

Senator Ron Wyden, D-Oregon, has now stepped in for a question and is backing up Sen Paul so technically, Rand is still going.

As long as Sen Paul doesn't actually sit down, he has the floor and can continue to speak once Sen Wyden is done.

**NCRAVEN** · 03-06-2013, 03:16 PM

Not sure how long you've been watching, did you see Cruz talk about Holder? That was great.

**HoustonRaven** · 03-06-2013, 03:21 PM

Originally Posted by NCRAVEN

Not sure how long you've been watching, did you see Cruz talk about Holder? That was great.

I missed it. Been tuning in when work gets slow.

**NCRAVEN** · 03-06-2013, 03:23 PM

Originally Posted by HoustonRaven

I missed it. Been tuning in when work gets slow.

Same here. I missed most of Wyden...

**HoustonRaven** · 03-06-2013, 05:47 PM

Paul made a serious statement today.

People actually took notice.

Hope he can ride that momentum and give Hillary a run in '16.

**NCRAVEN** · 03-06-2013, 06:05 PM

Originally Posted by HoustonRaven

Paul made a serious statement today.

People actually took notice.

Hope he can ride that momentum and give Hillary a run in '16.

He is still going!

I'll say right now, even though it's a few years away, I a donating to his campaign if he runs. Even over Rubio who I think communicates just a wee bit better.

**wickedsolo** · 03-06-2013, 07:35 PM

Originally Posted by HoustonRaven

Paul made a serious statement today.

People actually took notice.

Hope he can ride that momentum and give Hillary a run in '16.

How much support do you think she will really get considering they basically blamed Benghazi on her?

I like Rand Paul as well.

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**HoustonRaven** · 03-06-2013, 08:40 PM

Originally Posted by wickedsolo

How much support do you think she will really get considering they basically blamed Benghazi on her?

I like Rand Paul as well.

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Who's "they"? The Dems didn't blame her for shit.

She did no wrong in the eyes of the Dems.

She's getting the nomination.

**HoustonRaven** · 03-06-2013, 08:40 PM

Originally Posted by NCRAVEN

He is still going!

I'll say right now, even though it's a few years away, I a donating to his campaign if he runs. Even over Rubio who I think communicates just a wee bit better.

Still going .....

**wickedsolo** · 03-07-2013, 05:50 AM

Originally Posted by HoustonRaven

Who's "they"? The Dems didn't blame her for shit.

She did no wrong in the eyes of the Dems.

She's getting the nomination.

Didnt Obama and some of his clan point their fingers at her for failing to recognize the indicators?

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**JAB1985** · 03-07-2013, 06:30 AM

Originally Posted by HoustonRaven

Who's "they"? The Dems didn't blame her for shit.

She did no wrong in the eyes of the Dems.

She's getting the nomination.

shell be a 70 year old women by then. There may be rumors, but in 4 years she may not even be up for it. hell she might not even be alive. with the black cloud over her regardless of the "Dems" stance, its not even for sure that she wins it if she does want it. I doubt id vote for her unless theres literally no other candidate remotely worthy.

Rand Paul vs Rubio, I dont much care for Rubio. I like Ron Paul, but I think Rand doesnt really follow his thoughts that closely. I still hope Johnson runs for libertarian again and gets more attention this time around.

**HoustonRaven** · 03-07-2013, 06:43 AM

The hearings were a white wash and blame went to everybody and nobody in State. Then she went on 60 Minutes and said the buck stopped with her and she was back in everyone's good graces.

She will be 68, not 70, by the time the next election is done.

She's already bought up domain names and has an office space carved out in DC.

Point being is that she's running and she's wildly popular on the left. If that holds true for three years, she wins the primary with ease.

**JohnBKistler** · 03-10-2013, 12:31 PM

Originally Posted by HoustonRaven

Paul made a serious statement today.

People actually took notice.

I noticed that he got lambasted pretty good by both sides. It goes to show you how far we come (fallen) as a free society when a Senator gets blasted for having the gall to insist "that the American government answer some basic questions about how, when, where, and under what circumstances it thinks it has the right to kill its own citizens".

(Quoted statement from Reason.com blog about his filibuster: http://reason.com/blog/2013/03/07/3-...s-standwithran)

**HoustonRaven** · 03-10-2013, 01:30 PM

Originally Posted by JohnBKistler

I noticed that he got lambasted pretty good by both sides. It goes to show you how far we come (fallen) as a free society when a Senator gets blasted for having the gall to insist "that the American government answer some basic questions about how, when, where, and under what circumstances it thinks it has the right to kill its own citizens".

(Quoted statement from Reason.com blog about his filibuster: http://reason.com/blog/2013/03/07/3-...s-standwithran)

The left was going to mock him regardless.

The establishment right (McCain, Graham, et all), true to their form, did the same. Very reminiscent to the an upstart Reagan or a certain governor of Arkansas that nobody thought would amount to anything.