Ravens to make Ellerbe an offer

**Bigfish** · 03-08-2013, 05:20 PM

Originally Posted by arnie_uk

you sure?, he's only in the league four years. Your not Ufa until five years under the old cba I thought

I checked, Doctor is correct.

**BcRaven** · 03-08-2013, 05:27 PM

Originally Posted by arnie_uk

you sure?, he's only in the league four years. Your not Ufa until five years under the old cba I thought

arnie, I think you're a RFA in your 4th year, and an UFA in your 5th... Bc

**arnie_uk** · 03-08-2013, 05:29 PM

Originally Posted by BcRaven

arnie, I think you're a RFA in your 4th year, and an UFA in your 5th... Bc

I thought you had to play five years to be a Ufa. My bad

**BcRaven** · 03-08-2013, 05:31 PM

Originally Posted by arnie_uk

I thought you had to play five years to be a Ufa. My bad

Don't chastise yourself, you may be right under the new CBA(?) . I was alluding to the old CBA... Bc

**Bigfish** · 03-08-2013, 05:36 PM

Originally Posted by arnie_uk

I thought you had to play five years to be a Ufa. My bad

No worries, I'm wrong plenty. The situation is better than you thought.

**arnie_uk** · 03-08-2013, 05:40 PM

Originally Posted by BcRaven

Don't chastise yourself, you may be right under the new CBA(?) . I was alluding to the old CBA... Bc

Apparently the new cba done away with RFA altogether

**RavenScallywag** · 03-08-2013, 05:51 PM

I'm not certain Ellerbe is gone, but starting to think we'll find a cheaper guy in FA that'd work out just as well.

All things even, I'd want Ellerbe back. We found him and groomed him...but a Barnett or Jones will work just as well.

I'm a little nervous on Rolondo McClain. There's a reason Oakland gave up on him...

**leachisabeast** · 03-08-2013, 05:52 PM

The Raiders gave up on him because he didn't wanna play there anymore. He stopped showing up half way through the year.

**Ash55** · 03-08-2013, 06:03 PM

Originally Posted by leachisabeast

Rolando McClain is the guy I now want in FA. Maybe by not getting Ellerbe, we will have a better shot at keeping Reed, and McKinnie.

Same, I really like Rolandos upside.

**DerpyDerp** · 03-08-2013, 06:06 PM

I would totally give Rolando McClain a shot, if the contract was heavy with incentives related to playing time + behavior. Make him earn his money steadily by giving value on the field and being a good teammate

**CptJesus** · 03-08-2013, 06:13 PM

Originally Posted by DerpyDerp

I would totally give Rolando McClain a shot, if the contract was heavy with incentives related to playing time + behavior. Make him earn his money steadily by giving value on the field and being a good teammate

What incentive does a player have to sign this when they could get an offer without all these stipulations elsewhere?

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**leachisabeast** · 03-08-2013, 06:16 PM

If there is a team that can turn McClain around, its Baltimore. There are a number of reasons why Rolando could turn his career around on this team.

**arnie_uk** · 03-08-2013, 06:20 PM

Originally Posted by CptJesus

What incentive does a player have to sign this when they could get an offer without all these stipulations elsewhere?

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It's the a ballsy team to guarantee him money

**Mista T** · 03-08-2013, 06:23 PM

I haven't been particularly impressed with Ellerbe. Of all the potential losses, I consider him among the least important and more easily replaceable. Leach, Reed & Kruger each bring unique attributes, which I would hate to lose, and are more important IMHO to the 2013 team than Ellerbe.

Of course, if he accepts a sane offer, then keep him.

**JAB1985** · 03-08-2013, 06:31 PM

I wouldnt let what his agent says persuade me more than what he has. Anybody that saw his nfln interview could tell he spoke as a guy that seriously wasnt looking forward to the thought of going anywhere. Referred to baltimore as "his home". His agent may be saying that but much like ray rices agent saying he wanted AP money it means little to nothing on their desire to be back.

Watxhing cosell and i believe mayock break down tape on ellerbe pretty much points out just how good he was last year. He was our defensive MVP (another underappreciated play was probably runner up: cary williams). I wouldnt say we should overpay him but i dont think it would take an ungodly number to resign him. A fair deal hes likely to see out is probably due. He does have injury concerns afterall, but when hes been on the field all hes done is make plays and be around the ball. Thats what you want from your ILB.

**JMUpurkfool** · 03-08-2013, 06:32 PM

Originally Posted by Mista T

I haven't been particularly impressed with Ellerbe. Of all the potential losses, I consider him among the least important and more easily replaceable. Leach, Reed & Kruger each bring unique attributes, which I would hate to lose, and are more important IMHO to the 2013 team than Ellerbe.

Of course, if he accepts a sane offer, then keep him.

Ellerbe was a very good player this year and we cannot afford to lose him.

Rolando McClain is a POS who will never wear purple.

**Paintballguy** · 03-08-2013, 06:36 PM

Well there is less than 4 1/2 hours till ellerbes agent can talk to every team

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**JAB1985** · 03-08-2013, 06:39 PM

Originally Posted by Mista T

I haven't been particularly impressed with Ellerbe. Of all the potential losses, I consider him among the least important and more easily replaceable. Leach, Reed & Kruger each bring unique attributes, which I would hate to lose, and are more important IMHO to the 2013 team than Ellerbe.

Of course, if he accepts a sane offer, then keep him.

Honestly who is goign to value leach getting 30% of the offense snaps greater than our starting ILB, who was at the least debatable as our defwnsive MVP? Im sorry but if cutting leach means keeping ellerbe, i do that instantly 100/100.

**The Excellector** · 03-08-2013, 06:40 PM

You know, while I can see Ozzie offering him a good amount of money, we've all taken note of the way Ozzie has handled the ILB positions. It should not surprise us if Ozzie tries to bring in more UDFAs. With Ray gone, if he loses Ellerbe, Ozzie will probably try to bring in one veteran, but I wouldn't expect anything major.

Ozzie talked about the middle of the defense. Perhaps, he is thinking of it from the front to the back. For example, if you have a better Nose Tackle, that makes your ILBs better.

**The Excellector** · 03-08-2013, 06:41 PM

Originally Posted by JAB1985

Honestly who is goign to value leach getting 30% of the offense snaps greater than our starting ILB, who was at the least debatable as our defwnsive MVP? Im sorry but if cutting leach means keeping ellerbe, i do that instantly 100/100.

If in thirty percent of those snaps, he putting LBs on their back while opening gaping holes for Ray Rice and Benard Pierce, I ain't cuttin him. Ellerbe can go start 3/4s of the season somewhere else for that kind of money.