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    Re: Landover "Redtails"?



    In this thread are links to polls that show 90% or thereabouts feel just what I stated.

    Can you find one where it isn't near 90%?




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    Re: Landover "Redtails"?

    I dunno Greg. HR's link talks about 2 tribes out west, the Navajo
    and Sioux. Doesn't mention who else they polled east of the Mississippi plus the link I posted said they didn't poll anyone in Alaska or Hawaii.

    Plus, for being just a few tribes, this subject comes up about every year or almost every year so somebody sure disapproves of it. Do
    you think the Apache nation is honored by the Army naming their
    weapon systems the Apache Helicopter after the US Army decimated
    their entire tribe? Same with the BlackHawks? Have you ever been
    out west to an indian tribe? Many are still bitter towards the white man
    and the Cheyanne and Sioux still hate Custer.


    So who really knows? Believe what you want but the Oneida's are native
    Americans who filed the complaint, not the white man. That was my original point.
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    Re: Landover "Redtails"?

    And speaking of Navajo's, here's one that filed a federal
    lawsuit to strip the trademark from the team.

    It's from the USA TODAY entitled new generation takes
    up fight. The fight is still raging for many native Americans.

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    Blackhorse is Navajo and a psychiatric social worker and the named plaintiff in Blackhorse et al v. Pro-Football Inc., a federal suit in which a group of five American Indians seek to strip the federal trademark rights from the football team Snyder owns.
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    If's that's just 10% of indians, that's a fighting 10%. Their fever
    is strong after all these years.




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    Re: Landover "Redtails"?

    Quote Originally Posted by AirFlacco View Post
    And speaking of Navajo's, here's one that filed a federal
    lawsuit to strip the trademark from the team.

    It's from the USA TODAY entitled new generation takes
    up fight. The fight is still raging for many native Americans.

    ________________________
    Blackhorse is Navajo and a psychiatric social worker and the named plaintiff in Blackhorse et al v. Pro-Football Inc., a federal suit in which a group of five American Indians seek to strip the federal trademark rights from the football team Snyder owns.
    ___________________________

    If's that's just 10% of indians, that's a fighting 10%. Their fever
    is strong after all these years.




    http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports...fight/2148877/
    Read your post closely. It is apparently a "group of five". Not five groups or tribes, just five people (as I read it anyway).




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    Re: Landover "Redtails"?

    You re-read my post. I never said 5 tribes or 5 anything.
    The link did but story starts out with 1 guy, a Navajo.
    I said here's one guy (a Navajo) filing suit. If he's part of the 10%, he's the fighting 10%. Again, HRs link listed over 500 tribes registered with the Census Bureau. How many of them were polled?

    It only takes one to file a suit although class action suits have multiple plaintiffs. I'd call 5 plaintiffs, multiple, even if they're part of the 10%.

    But this thread now how two tribes making noise about the name - The ONEIDAs and now the Navajo's. And
    again, HRs link shows two tribes with 90% that don't care.


    Blackfhorse's ancestors would be proud of him. Native Americans held off the U.S. Army for about 100 years until Wounded Knee in 1890 and even that wasn't as
    lopsided as everyone says. Indians wiped out 25
    soldiers while going down. They were always tough
    except for HRs 90%.

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    Re: Landover "Redtails"?

    Norte Dame have a leprechaun jumping around the sidelines and shadow boxing as their mascot.

    Ah the fighting Irish. Throw in a few stereotypes about drunken Irish too

    Nobody is offended, I don't care anyway. Just a mascot




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    Quote Originally Posted by Irish Raven View Post
    Norte Dame have a leprechaun jumping around the sidelines and shadow boxing as their mascot.

    Ah the fighting Irish. Throw in a few stereotypes about drunken Irish too

    Nobody is offended, I don't care anyway. Just a mascot
    Well yes, but we are violent and usually drunk.




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    Re: Landover "Redtails"?

    I was listening to 105.7 at 7:30 tonight when they had Upshaw on and was surprised they asked him about the
    Skins name.

    He simply said, hey, some people are offended by it.

    That's the way it is.
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    Re: Landover "Redtails"?

    I hope they keep it because it's a stupid name and they're an incompetent organization.

    The only people with red skin are fools who lay in the sun too long without sunblock. That's the reason I don't find it offensive as a name. It just reminds me how stupid racists are.

    If it were my team, I'd feel different and I'd want it changed. But they're a bunch of dipshits and they deserve a dipshit name.

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    Re: Landover "Redtails"?

    Quote Originally Posted by AirFlacco View Post
    I was listening to 105.7 at 7:30 tonight when they had Upshaw on and was surprised they asked him about the
    Skins name.

    He simply said, hey, some people are offended by it.

    That's the way it is.
    Almost everything offends somebody. Are we supposed to respond to everything somebody finds offensive?




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    Re: Landover "Redtails"?

    Quote Originally Posted by AirFlacco View Post
    I dunno Greg. HR's link talks about 2 tribes out west, the Navajo
    and Sioux. Doesn't mention who else they polled east of the Mississippi plus the link I posted said they didn't poll anyone in Alaska or Hawaii.
    I don't know specifically about Alaska, but the Native Hawaiians are not the same people as the various tribes of Native Americans. The Native Hawaiians actually emigrated from Tahiti and the South Pacific, where as the Native Americans most likely emigrated from Mongolia/Asia (note: my Native American history is probably not accurate since they teach Hawaiian history in Hawaii High Schools and not so much Native American History).

    Actually when the "Native Hawaiians" arrived in Hawaii, there were already people here. They were a smaller pygmy people know as Menehune. Supposedly once the Polynesians arrived, they took to the forest and have lived there ever since. Obviously there is a bit of legend there.

    But the basic point is that the Native Hawaiians and Native Americans are not the same peoples.




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    Re: Landover "Redtails"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Greg View Post
    Almost everything offends somebody. Are we supposed to respond to everything somebody finds offensive?
    In this world of political correctness - yes! I quoted Goodell who said if
    one person is offended by the name we have to look into it.

    You cant even say Japs or Chinamen anymore w/o offending someone. Well, what about Irishmen or Englishmen or Frenchmen. Can't say
    that either?

    Not saying I'm for changing the Skins name - just explaining why
    it's going on and who's doing it despite the polls. Like Upshaw said, that;s the way it is.
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