Boller is ready to lead

**Jggjaron** · 09-18-2007, 11:16 AM

He looked pretty composed having to come in and try to win the game in Cincy and then had a very solid game in Baltimore i think the Kid may finally be ready for the NFL

**Greg** · 09-18-2007, 11:37 AM

It was a home game where it is a whole lot easier to show poise than in a hostile road environment which is where Boller usually has his most ugly performances.

He was very poised in Cincy, late in the game, coming in cold, hostile environment, in the red zone with pressure about as high as it can get in a regular season game. He made a mechanically poor throw to Darling that missed and you could make an argument the last throw to Heap was too hard, but it had to be squeezed into a tight area. Other that that he played those minutes very well, very composed and even you have to admit, got the tying TD he was then robbed of. So please, he can perform on the road.

Did you forget about the comeback against the Jets in 2004 with the two tying TD drives in the 4th plus overtime drive to the winning FG? I would say yes, you have.

**highwater** · 09-18-2007, 02:53 PM

In other words, it's a "small sample size" and you don't like it, so let's pretend it never happened. This transparent bias is exactly why people occasionally find you amusing but never take you seriously.

By the way, the Bengals game is not really a "sample size," it's reality, and happens to be the most recent game Boller played on the road. And McNair wasn't exactly a road warrior in that game with his four turnovers, in case you missed that.

**FHRaven** · 09-18-2007, 03:10 PM

Originally Posted by Tex Ritter

Boller may have somewhat improved by watching McNair and sitting on the bench but common sense should tell you that you don't get better over the course of a year by not playing.

Way to contradict yourself within the same sentence.

More epic logic from Tex.

**purplepoe** · 09-18-2007, 05:05 PM

I was very pleased with Boller's performance at the end of the Cincy game and in the Jets game.

Looked much more poised etc.....

But let's not pretend that some people on this board don't go back a few years (Boller vs Min and GB) to back their arguments for him to be the starter.

Can't have it both ways.

PP

**Mista T** · 09-18-2007, 05:39 PM

Originally Posted by purplepoe

I was very pleased with Boller's performance at the end of the Cincy game and in the Jets game.

Looked much more poised etc.....

But let's not pretend that some people on this board don't go back a few years (Boller vs Min and GB) to back their arguments for him to be the starter.

Can't have it both ways.

PP

C'mon Poe, you're misreading this.

The significance of the 2005 night games is that it was a watershed for Boller. After a mediocre 2005 midseason performance coming off his early injury, capped off by his nightmarish performance against Denver, Boller did an about-face to play like a born-again in those two night games. Followed by last season's 104 rating against the Panthers and Browns, and now the Jets game. He is on a streak of five full games (of six) where his performance has been as good or better than anyone in the league over the same period, excepting perhaps the superstars Manning, Brady, or Palmer.

Outside of Dec 2005 being the beginning of Boller's streak, those games have no more relevance than Mcnair's December games for the Titans.

He's on a hot streak, while Mcnair is in a downward spiral -- it's inevitable that, unless these trends reverse, Boller will be leading the Ravens sooner than later.

**JimBone** · 09-18-2007, 05:59 PM

With Mcnair's history with injuries this debate maty be moot. Boller definitely looks better than he has in the past but one game does not make a season . That being said Mcnair has been terrible his last 3 starts. I think I'll take a wait and see approach. Although I would love to see what Boller can do w/ a good offensive line and our current recieving corps for a full season.

**purplepoe** · 09-18-2007, 06:46 PM

Originally Posted by Mista T

C'mon Poe, you're misreading this.

The significance of the 2005 night games is that it was a watershed for Boller. After a mediocre 2005 midseason performance coming off his early injury, capped off by his nightmarish performance against Denver, Boller did an about-face to play like a born-again in those two night games. Followed by last season's 104 rating against the Panthers and Browns, and now the Jets game. He is on a streak of five full games (of six) where his performance has been as good or better than anyone in the league over the same period, excepting perhaps the superstars Manning, Brady, or Palmer.

Outside of Dec 2005 being the beginning of Boller's streak, those games have no more relevance than Mcnair's December games for the Titans.

He's on a hot streak, while Mcnair is in a downward spiral -- it's inevitable that, unless these trends reverse, Boller will be leading the Ravens sooner than later.

And he was TERRIBLE against the Browns after the 2 nice games in 05.

Im sick of debating this with you. Your constant hype of his 104 rating last year is nauseating to me now. I saw him play with my own eyes. You ignore the tipped passes consistently and Im tired of pointing it out.

Boller is the backup. He played well on Sunday. Period. No more, no less.

You may think it's inevitable that Boller will be leading the Ravens sooner than later, but I don't.

Unless McNair is too injured to play, he will be the starter.

PP

**purplepoe** · 09-18-2007, 06:56 PM

Why are people's posts being mysteriously deleted on this thread?

PP

**Greg** · 09-18-2007, 07:33 PM

11 plays isn't exactly a "game" on the road, it takes at least four quarters to make a game the last time I watched one.

When was the last time you watched a game, the 58 Championship?

I'm sorry, but if you tee it up I will whack it down the fairway.

FORE!

**esizzle** · 09-18-2007, 08:03 PM

I agree Boller had a good game on Sunday. I am not not quite ready to turn over the reigns just yet. He always seems to stare down his receivers and often has passes tipped or blocked at the line. We are lucky to have him as a back up.

**crazyraven** · 09-18-2007, 08:04 PM

Damn That smackums is a great poster.

**Heap86** · 09-18-2007, 11:36 PM

Um, McNair was playing much of that game with a groin injury, yet you want to blame him for one game?

McNair should not have stayed in the game injured. He should have taken himself out while a healthy QB took over.

McNair was selfish, and it got to the point were his injury hurt his play so much that he had to come out. McNair's erratic play caused several of the turnovers.

I sure hope McNair is 100% Sunday, because if his play suffers again because of his sore groin, we will be in for a long day.

**Greg** · 09-19-2007, 09:17 AM

Steve Air McNair is the guy to lead you to Superbowl 42 and 43 victories, not Loser Boller.

Thanks the kind of deep analysis that makes reading here worthwhile.

**purplepoe** · 09-19-2007, 05:44 PM

What happened to Copenhaggard's post?

Who took it down and why?

PP

**crazyraven** · 09-19-2007, 08:24 PM

What happened to Copenhaggard's post?

Who took it down and why?

PP

I saw that post and Smackums had a great post in it. I can not see a reason why it would be deleted? WTF....What gives mods?

**Big Bird** · 09-19-2007, 10:25 PM

Here's another vote for Mr. Boller. Problem is, Ravens are SO-SO at QB. We still need to rely on the D
and special teams to keep us in the game. If one game is a
measurement, I can see that Kyle has improved, but it takes
more than that.

One other point..... Kyle man has always taken what I call unfair
criticism by our "fans". The guy does nothing but keep giving it his
best while taking all the BS the fans can dish out. In my opinion he is a SOLID BACKUP.

Considering McNair's 2nd year fade, I'd start Kyle. Based on his
apparent improvement in last sundays game, he'd be my starter.

He needs the support of the team players on offense as well.

That's my story and I'm stickin to it!!

**Big Bird** · 09-20-2007, 12:26 PM

Originally Posted by Tex Ritter

Your last sentence was confirmed last night by none other than Billick himself on his call - in show. A caller asked if Boller continued to play well and McNair not so well would he ever consider benching McNair and giving the starter job back to Boller. Billick emphatically said the only circumstance where Boller would ever start over McNair would be due to injury. So please lets put a rest to this Boller starting crap once and for all. Thank God Billick has more sense than a handful of posters on this forum! Billick also said those who are hypercritical of McNair's performance in week one must realize that he was playing with a groin injury most of the game which hindered his performance.

I'd say Billick should choose his words more carefully. If McNair has lost it (and he may have), Billick WILL NOT play him. It's not about loyalties. Its about winning football games. Supporting a player in a die-hard manner is fine. But not once he has lost it and is hurting the team. We'll just have to wait and see.

**Purpleguy** · 09-20-2007, 01:59 PM

Of course Billick isn't going to say he would pull him. Why create that kind of controversy before it is even an issue? Obviously Billick isn't going to let Mcnair play game after game like he did in Cincy and against Indy last year. I'm sure McNair knows this as well. One of the cardinal rules in the NFL is to not take a coach's word as gospel.

**FadeToBlack** · 09-20-2007, 03:04 PM

The thread title made me laugh.

I'm sorry, Boller isn't leading this team anywhere and he is marginally improved from his rookie season. If you sincerely believe otherwise, I'd invite you to watch a Ravens game.

I don't know why you people torture yourselves over Boller. Do yourselves a favor and just stop trying to make him into what he isn't. He isn't a leader for this team, because leaders are also typically your best players. How many NFL teams have one of its worst players as one of their biggest leaders? LOL!

Also, this guy isn't the "QB of the future." More like the "Stopgap of the Future" until a QB of the future is found. Admit it, we struck out on the Boller pick. He was a 4th round talent with 1st round measurables and a likable personality. I'm sure if I met Boller face to face, I'd like the guy. I also would hope he isn't the starting quarterback.