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    Re: Ravens Make Costly Blunder?



    Quote Originally Posted by lobachevsky View Post
    Keep in mind that it's not the "gubmint" canceling plans or restricting provider networks, it's the insurance companies. Which they did on a regular basis before the ACA & would have done without it. I wonder how many of them are just using the ACA as a convenient scapegoat for actions they would have taken anyway.
    Actually it IS the government canceling this insurance because the canceled plans do not meet the ACA requirements. We are forced to buy insurance we do not want as opposed to keep the plans we do want. Obama knew this and lied about it.




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    Re: Ravens Make Costly Blunder?

    Quote Originally Posted by ERey View Post
    DOMA is worse than a fine/tax in some people's minds because they view it as discrimination.
    How is it discriminatory?




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    Quote Originally Posted by Greg View Post
    How is it discriminatory?
    Failing to provide benefits to same sex partners that are otherwise available to heterosexual couples is the height of discrimination.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HoustonRaven View Post
    Failing to provide benefits to same sex partners that are otherwise available to heterosexual couples is the height of discrimination.
    I wouldn't say it is "the height" of discrimination. Of course, I don't see it as discrimination. The whole idea of these kind of benefits was to solidify the family for the purposes of raising children. It was to make it easier to form and keep nuclear families.

    Beyond that, these benefits could be provided sans marriage.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Greg View Post
    I wouldn't say it is "the height" of discrimination. Of course, I don't see it as discrimination. The whole idea of these kind of benefits was to solidify the family for the purposes of raising children. It was to make it easier to form and keep nuclear families.

    Beyond that, these benefits could be provided sans marriage.
    Gay couples raise and have nuclear families too.

    But I think we're drifting off topic.
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    Re: Ravens Make Costly Blunder?

    FWIW, I had two people remove themselves from our fan group here in Houston yesterday.

    Both were Ravens fans from Baltimore who moved here for work and will no longer follow the team because of the teams decision over Obamacare.
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    Re: Ravens Make Costly Blunder?

    Quote Originally Posted by HoustonRaven View Post
    FWIW, I had two people remove themselves from our fan group here in Houston yesterday.

    Both were Ravens fans from Baltimore who moved here for work and will no longer follow the team because of the teams decision over Obamacare.
    I just think that is silly and overly dramatic.


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    Quote Originally Posted by wickedsolo View Post
    I just think that is silly and overly dramatic.
    Given how unpopular the law is, I think it was inevitable.
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    Re: Ravens Make Costly Blunder?

    Quote Originally Posted by wickedsolo View Post
    I just think that is silly and overly dramatic.


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    Which is all the more reason the Ravens should have stayed out of it. Politics and people's healthcare is no joking matter for millions of people. It's a sensative topic. I learned the hard way not to bring up during family get togethers or parties as nice events can easily get ruined. It's better for the Ravens to just stay out of it than risk offending many people.




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    Re: Ravens Make Costly Blunder?

    Quote Originally Posted by Greg View Post
    How is it discriminatory?
    I can't answer that because I liked the law. But if you followed the topic closely opponents of the law argued vehemently that it was discriminatory. It doesn't really matter if you or I agree with DOMA, it's just another example (and a good one) as to why football teams should just stay out of politics.




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