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    Re: 2014 Mock Draft - Wicked's Second Edition (Lots of Changes)



    Where would we pick if we go 8-8? I see Evans going at around 14/16.




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    Quote Originally Posted by leachisabeast View Post
    Where would we pick if we go 8-8? I see Evans going at around 14/16.
    Current Draft order...

    http://www.gbnreport.com/weeklydraftorder.html

    They update this list every week...it looks like if we lose you are right...likely somewhere around 13-18.
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    Re: 2014 Mock Draft - Wicked's Second Edition (Lots of Changes)

    Round 2:

    33. Houston (2-13) – Johnny Manziel, QB, Texas A&M (6’1” 205lbs). Manziel may not have ideal size or arm strength, but as the Seahawks and Saints have shown, it is all about scheme. Manziel is accurate with outstanding mobility. Houston has a good offensive line, good receivers and tight ends. They really just need a play maker at quarterback.

    34. Washington (3-12) – Zack Martin, OT, Notre Dame (6’4” 303lbs). If Martin were 2-3 inches taller, he’d probably be a top-20 pick. His footwork is really nice and he could develop into a nice guard/tackle swing lineman. The Redskins have to find a way to protect RGIII if they want to get back to the post season and I think Martin’s athleticism could translate well for what the Skins do.

    35. Jacksonville (4-11) – Jackson Jeffcoat, DE, Texas (6’5” 250lbs). Jason Babin and Andre Branch have a combined 12 sacks. They also recently cut Jeremy Mincey. Gus Bradley comes from a background of having an attacking, pressure defense and a majority of that pressure must be generated from the front-4. Jeffcoat has gone under the radar, but this season he has 12 sacks and 18 tackles for loss.

    36. Oakland (4-11) – Tajh Boyd, QB, Clemson (6’1” 225lbs). Boyd is similar to Russell Wilson in that he has the athleticism to get out of the pocket and make plays with his feet, but he would prefer to stay in the pocket and make throws down the field. He completed 68% of his passes this year with a 29/9 touchdown to interception ratio. He also contributed 9 rushing touchdowns and just less than 500 yards rushing. I don’t see Oakland moving forward with Dennis Allen, which means Terrelle Pryor and Matt McGloin are probably out.

    37. Atlanta (4-11) – Kelcy Quarles, DT, South Carolina (6’4” 299lbs). Quarles was extremely productive this year with most of the attention being focused on his teammate, Jadeveon Clowney. Quarles registered 9 sacks and 14 tackles for loss as a defensive 3-technique tackle. Atlanta’s defense is dead last in sacks and pressures this season. Their defensive front-7 has been riddled with injuries, but they could stand to get a lot better and Jonathan Babineaux is a free agent.

    38. Cleveland (4-11) – Kyle Van Noy, LB, Brigham Young (6’3” 240lbs). Van Noy can play multiple positions, which is something that 3-4 defensive teams like in their linebackers. He is an excellent edge pass rusher, but he can also play inside and stuff the run or drop into coverage. In 2013 he has 16 tackles for loss, 4 sacks 7 passes defensed and 2 interceptions. D’Qwell Jackson will be 31 years old and Paul Kruger is looking like a huge bust signing.

    39. Tampa Bay (4-11) – Ray Drew, DE, Georgia (6’5” 275lbs). Drew predominately played as a 5-technique defensive end at Georgia, but he was able to show some explosiveness throughout the season with 6 sacks and 8 tackles for loss. He is a better edge-setting defensive end than a pass rusher, but Tampa Bay needs to get better along their defensive line by any means necessary. DaQuan Bowers can’t stay healthy and Adrian Clayborn and Gerald McCoy face a lot of double-teams.

    40. Minnesota (4-10-1) – Jeremiah Attaochu, DE, Georgia Tech (6’3” 244lbs). Jared Allen is a pending free agent and Brian Robison is 30 years old. To date, the Vikings haven’t gotten much production out of Everson Griffen and they don’t really have a lot of depth at defensive end. Attaochu is a quick-twitch pass rusher with 12 sacks and 15 tackles for loss in 2013. He isn’t a very big defensive player, so I could see the Vikings working him in as a role player at first. It is also possible that they coach him to be a Sam linebacker and use him similarly to how the Broncos use Von Miller.

    41. Tennessee (6-9) – Davante Adams, WR, Fresno State (6’2” 215lbs). The Titans are more than likely going to part ways with Nate Washington for salary cap purposes. In addition, Kenny Britt and Damian Williams are pending free agents. That would leave the Titans with just Justin Hunter and Kendall Wright. Adams could allow Wright to play his natural position in the slot (Y receiver) while giving the Titans another viable starting receiver because Hunter hasn’t shown that he can carry the load.

    42. Buffalo (6-9) – Jace Amaro, TE, Texas Tech (6’6” 250lbs). Amaro is used more as a slot receiver at Texas Tech, so his receiving skills are pretty solid. He is a mismatch for most linebackers and defensive backs because of his speed/size combination. He isn’t a pristine route runner, but I think Buffalo could really use a more dynamic presence in the middle of the field. It would also help pull some attention away from Stevie Johnson.
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    43. New York Giants (6-9) – Ryan Shazier, LB, Ohio State (6’3” 230lbs). The Giants made a good decision by trading for Jon Beason, but he can’t do it all by himself and the Giants need to continue to invest in their front-7. Shazier would be an ideal fit as a Mike or Will linebacker for the Giants. He is a tackling machine (134 in 2013, 22 for loss) and he plays well in space. I really like how quickly he diagnoses plays and takes good angles to make stops against the run.

    44. Pittsburgh (7-8) – Allen Robinson, WR, Penn State (6’3” 210lbs). I think the Steelers will definitely be considering receivers early in this draft. I also think Robinson would be a good fit for Pittsburgh because they don’t have a bigger receiver with decent speed on their team. Plus, Emmanuel Sanders is likely headed to free agency. Robinson had 97 receptions for over 1,400 yards in 2013. He tracks passes well and he has demonstrated the ability to settle into soft zones and come back for passes.

    45. New York Jets (7-8) – Odell Beckham, WR, LSU (6’ 200lbs). Santonio Holmes has really underwhelmed for two years now and their 2012 2nd round pick, Stephen Hill, wasn’t even on the active game day roster for much of the year. If the Jets want Geno Smith to succeed at quarterback, they need to give him better weapons. Beckham has elite speed and quickness. He averaged just under 20 yards per reception in 2013.

    46. St. Louis (7-8) – Tim Jernigan, DT, Florida State (6’2” 290lbs). Michael Brockers is pretty good and the pass rushing combination of Robert Quinn and Chris Long may be one of the best in the NFL. Adding one more pass rushing defensive lineman could significantly elevate the Ram’s defense, which is already pretty good. Jernigan is quick with an explosive burst off the line of scrimmage. He isn’t an elite run stuffer, but he did produce 11 tackles for loss this season.

    47. Detroit (7-8) – Jared Abbrederis, WR, Wisconsin (6’2” 190lbs). I think Abbrederis is flying under the radar right now, but teams out there who need a #2 or #3 receiver will definitely be keying in on him. Abbrederis has enough speed to keep defenders honest, but his route running and consistent hands are what separate him from a lot of other receivers in this draft class. That said, his upside is limited. I think he’d be a great #2 receiver and Detroit could certainly use that as Nate Burrelson is older and overrated.

    48. Green Bay (7-7-1) – Michael Sam, DE, Missouri (6’2” 260lbs). Sam really came on strong this past season with 11 sacks and 18 tackles for loss. I think he could post an elite 10-yard split time when he runs his 40-yard dash at the combine. Even with missing time, Clay Matthews still leads the team with 7 sacks. Nick Perry has been a bit of a disappointment and Mike Neal is playing out of position. The Packers really need to get their defense back to where it was a few seasons ago and one way to do that is to increase their pass rush.

    49. Dallas (8-7) – Denzel Perryman, LB, Miami (6’ 240lbs). Perryman is a sideline-to-sideline defender with nice instincts. He racked up over 100 tackles in 2013 and chipped in as a coverage linebacker as well. Dallas’ D is one of the worst in the league and it doesn’t help when their starting Mike linebacker (Sean Lee) is constantly getting hurt and missing games. Perryman could play all three linebacker positions for Dallas.

    50. San Diego (8-7) – Travis Swanson, C, Arkansas (6’4” 305lbs). Nick Hardwick has contemplated retirement for a few seasons now. Even if he does return next year, he’ll be 33 years old and he isn’t what he used to be. The Chargers also don’t have a lot of depth at center. Swanson is a strong run blocker and a solid pass blocker. If Hardwick were to retire, Swanson is good enough that he could step in as a day-1 starter at center.

    51. Baltimore (8-7) – David Yankey, OG, Stanford (6’5” 312lbs). Yankey can play both tackle positions and both guard positions. There is even a possibility that he could learn to play center as he is a very intelligent individual. As a pass blocker, there aren’t many better in this draft class. He has solid footwork and he uses leverage extremely well. I also think he is an outstanding run blocker. I think he could compete for the starting right tackle position and he could provide excellent depth at guard because who knows if Kelechi Osemele will be the same after back surgery. The Ravens must invest in Joe Flacco.

    52. Arizona (10-5) – Zach Mettenberger, QB, LSU (6’5” 235lbs). Once Mettenberger began working under Cam Cameron, his production went through the rook. Then, he tore his ACL. If it were not for that injury, I could have seen him moving up into round 1. He has arguably the strongest arm out of anyone in this draft class and his decision making has vastly improved. Bruce Arians knows how to coach quarterbacks and sitting behind Carson Palmer would allow his knee to fully heal.

    53. Miami* (8-7) – Greg Robinson, OT, Auburn (6’5” 325lbs). Miami should really just double up on offensive linemen. Richie Incognito and Jon Martin are likely out while Bryant McKinnie and Tyson Clabo are way past their prime. Robinson is an outstanding run blocker and a major reason why Auburn is poised to play for a BCS National Championship. He isn’t amazing as a pass blocker, but he definitely has the athleticism to develop into one.
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    54. Philadelphia* (9-6) – Brandin Cooks, WR, Oregon State (5’10” 188lbs). I think Cooks is a perfect fit for Chip Kelly’s offense. He has nice speed, but his best assets are as a route runner. His quickness and lateral burst allow him to get open quickly and his hands are fantastic. For a shorter receiver, he does a nice job high-pointing passes. Cooks would be a huge upgrade over Jason Avant as the Eagle’s slot receiver.

    55. Chicago* (8-7) – Ifo Ekpre-Olomu, CB, Oregon (5’10” 195lbs). Ekpre-Olomu just finished up another good season for Oregon. He matched up well against Brandin Cooks, who is one of the better receivers in college, and he also played well against USC, Cal, UCLA and Tennessee. He isn’t afraid to come up and make stops on running backs and he has enough speed and quickness to maintain decent coverage against most receivers. Chicago’s offense has been pretty good, so they could use this draft to really invest in their defense. Charles Tillman isn’t a spring chicken anymore.

    56. Indianapolis* (10-5) – Jordan Matthews, WR, Vanderbilt (6’3” 215lbs). Reggie Wayne getting hurt may have impacted the Colts more than any other injury impacted any other team. He was their chain mover, their offensive leader and a guy that Andrew Luck could always count on. TY Hilton is great for splash plays, but the Colts don’t have a receiver that can just get open and make the tough catches in the middle of the field. Enter Jordan Matthews. He doesn’t have elite speed, but he has multiple years of outstanding production going against some of the best defenses in the SEC. Furthermore, Vanderbilt hasn’t exactly had amazing play from quarterback either.

    57. Cincinnati* (10-5) – Kyle Fuller, CB, Virginia Tech (6’ 199lbs). Fuller is an excellent coverage linebacker with excellent size and strength. He plays press-coverage very well and he has enough speed to keep up with most receivers. He played his best games against top competition such as North Carolina and Alabama. Fuller also did an excellent job against Georgia Tech’s option-run offense. Leon Hall is one of the best corners in the game when he can stay healthy. Adam Jones is 31 and more of a nickel corner and Terrance Newman will be 36 years old next season. To make matters worse, 2nd year cornerback, Dre Kirkpatrick, has been largely disappointing.

    58. New Orleans* (10-5) – Scott Crichton, DE, Oregon State (6’3” 260lbs). Rob Ryan has turned the Saints’ defense into a powerhouse and all with his top rush linebacker, Victor Butler, out for the entire season. Junior Gallette has really stepped up as a pass rusher, but the Saints could definitely look to add another pass rush specialist for Ryan to rotate in. Crichton’s numbers do not indicate how good of a pass rusher he is and could become. He has 14 tackles for loss and 7 sacks this season, but he was constantly in the backfield.

    59. San Francisco* (11-4) – Brian Stork, C, Florida State (6’4” 310lbs). Stork can play guard or center and he played extremely well for the Seminoles all season long. He may actually be their best lineman. Stork made a lot of their line calls for blocking assignments and he did an excellent job protecting Jameis Winston. Jonathan Goodwin is a pending free agent and will be 36 years old next year. He is still a good player, but it may be time for the Niners to draft a replacement center.

    60. Carolina* (11-4) – Gabe Jackson, OG, Mississippi State (6’4” 330lbs). Jackson is a road-grader lineman who excels as a run blocker. He squared off against some of the top defensive tackles in college football and rarely got beat. Carolina’s bread and butter has always been to run the ball, but this year their offensive line and injuries to both Jon Stewart and DeAngelo Williams made it difficult for them to run the ball.

    61. San Francisco [from Kansas City* (11-4)] – TJ Jones, WR, Notre Dame (5’11” 200lbs). Anquan Boldin, Jon Baldwin, Mario Manningham and Kassim Osgood could all be free agents come February. To compound that issue at wide receiver, Quinton Patton has not been able to crack the starting lineup at all. Even with terrible quarterback play, TJ Jones still had over 1,000 yards and 9 touchdowns. He is also a good return specialist.

    62. New England* (11-4) – Aaron Donald, DT, Pitt (6’ 280lbs). If Donald were 6’4” or 6’5”, he’d be a top-10 pick. Teams are going to be scared off because of his height, but I think someone like Bill Belichick will absolutely relish being able to take such a talented player and redefine size standards in the NFL. Donald may have been the best defender that Florida State played all season long and he made it difficult for them. Donald had 10 sacks, 27 tackles for loss, 3 fumbles and 2 passes deflected at the line of scrimmage. He could play DE, DT or possible outside linebacker in a 3-4 scheme and everyone knows that Belichick likes versatile defenders.

    63. Denver* (12-3) – Jarvis Landry, WR, LSU (6’1” 200lbs). Eric Decker is a free agent and the Broncos are also going to have to fork over a lot of money in the next few years for Demaryius Thomas. I actually think the Broncos will let Decker sign with another team. Wes Welker has also been dealing with multiple concussions, so who knows if he may have to end his career earlier than expected. Landry doesn’t have elite speed, but he may be the most adept receiver in this draft when it comes to making contested receptions. He isn’t afraid to go over the middle and his hands are outstanding.

    64. Seattle* (12-3) – La’el Collins, OT, LSU (6’5” 325lbs). Russell Okung gets hurt for a few games almost every season as does James Carpenter and Breno Giacomini. When healthy, Okung is one of the best left tackles in the league, but neither Carpenter nor Giacomini are so good that they couldn’t be replaced. Collins started out as a guard, but he played very well for LSU this season as a left tackle. He is a bit raw, but has a lot of athleticism. I could see him contending for one of the guard positions as well as making a run to start at right tackle.
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    Re: 2014 Mock Draft - Wicked's Second Edition (Lots of Changes)

    Anyone know how Barrett Jones did this year? I really liked him in the draft last year, and wanted the Ravens to get him.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Dirt1 View Post
    Anyone know how Barrett Jones did this year? I really liked him in the draft last year, and wanted the Ravens to get him.
    I'm not 100% positive, but I think he's pretty much been a depth player for the Rams.

    I really wanted him as well.


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    oooooh. Yankey over Robinson, eh? I do see your rationale though. However don't you think that Robinson will go higher as more and more teams run him through the pre-draft process? Regardless, Yankey would be a GREAT pick in round 2 if he lasts that long. Guy's a beast-better than the Steeler Stanford pick DeCastro.

    One point: reports are coming out that Ifo Ekpre-Olomu is staying in school. We'll know soon enough.




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    I am a huge fan of Yankey. I think he is someone the a Ravens would gravitate towards as well.


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    Barrett Jones was listed as the Rams 3rd string center on the depth chart on their official website.

    He may turn out to be a solid player, but I can't remember too many more hyped players by casual fans than he was.

    There was a fan here who was insisting on us taking him in the first round because there was no way in his opinion that he'd have lasted until our 2nd round pick.

    He's an athletically limited player. I never understood the notion that some had of him playing LT either...college awards have zero bearing on NFL potential.


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    Re: 2014 Mock Draft - Wicked's Second Edition (Lots of Changes)

    Quote Originally Posted by Dirt1 View Post
    Anyone know how Barrett Jones did this year? I really liked him in the draft last year, and wanted the Ravens to get him.
    EDIT- I see RaveninWoodlawn beat me to this!

    Jones has played in 2 games for the Rams and is currently their 3rd string center. He did have that Lisfranc injury which may explain his drop in the draft and his non-playing this year but a) definitely he wouldn't have helped our O-line this year and with a Lisfranc injury you never know if he'll fully recover. Honestly I am glad we didn't draft him cause he'd be one more question mark for our o-line and we don't need any more of those.




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    Re: 2014 Mock Draft - Wicked's Second Edition (Lots of Changes)

    Quote Originally Posted by Dirt1 View Post
    Anyone know how Barrett Jones did this year? I really liked him in the draft last year, and wanted the Ravens to get him.
    He was used on special teams, and didn't see a snap at C. However, I think eventually he will be a starting C in the league, I really liked him too.




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