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    Democrats lying again?



    Okay, I probably shouldn't have used the question mark because the current administration is built on nothing but lies. But here's another example and if you'll notice none of the "news" networks are talking about it.

    If everyone will remember how the unemployment rate fell just before the last elections, I think I can explain how.

    http://nypost.com/2013/11/18/census-...n-jobs-report/

    Yet again Obama lies to the American people, and yet people still support the guy.
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    Romney's horribly run campaign had more to do with Obama getting re-elected than some idiots in the Census Bureau fudging the numbers.

    He was tossed a proverbial softball and whiffed.

    And let's not pretend the GOP isn't filled with its share of liars as well.
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    Re: Democrats lying again?

    Fiddling with statistics and covering up bad news before elections goes on in every country in the world




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    Re: Democrats lying again?

    You're both right, but add this to the long list of lies from the current administration and we get the picture of someone who really should be impeached.
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    WMD Iraq > Fudged Unemployment Numbers.

    And W wasn't impeached.

    I'm no fan of Obama but this isn't impeachment worthy.

    Benghazi, the IRS scandal and false promises from Obamacare? That's a worth while discussion.
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    Re: Democrats lying again?

    Quote Originally Posted by HoustonRaven View Post
    WMD Iraq > Fudged Unemployment Numbers.

    And W wasn't impeached.

    I'm no fan of Obama but this isn't impeachment worthy.

    Benghazi, the IRS scandal and false promises from Obamacare? That's a worth while discussion.
    This. No "lie" this administration has told has been bigger than Bush's Iraq WMDs. That lie cost hundred's of thousands of casualties and deaths. And as HR pointed out Bush wasn't impeached.

    There is plenty to criticize Obama on, just like any Presidency. But this is just nit picking.

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    Re: Democrats lying again?

    Quote Originally Posted by HoustonRaven View Post
    WMD Iraq > Fudged Unemployment Numbers.

    And W wasn't impeached.
    Hussein had chemical weapons, i.e. WMDs. We know this because he used them on the Kurds and Iranians. Syria does not have a serious chemical weapon program yet they have them. It doesn't take much thinking to understand where the Syrian chemical weapons came from.

    And I am NOT a fan of Bush. I was against invading Iraq. But they did have WMDs and a nuclear program.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Greg View Post
    Hussein had chemical weapons, i.e. WMDs. We know this because he used them on the Kurds and Iranians. Syria does not have a serious chemical weapon program yet they have them. It doesn't take much thinking to understand where the Syrian chemical weapons came from.

    And I am NOT a fan of Bush. I was against invading Iraq. But they did have WMDs and a nuclear program.
    At one time Iraq did have WMDs. But that was well before we invaded. The "intel" about WMDs came from an informant code named Curveball. Who admitted that he made up the Iraq WMD stories to include the famous "mobile chemical labs".

    http://www.theguardian.com/world/201...-lies-iraq-war

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    Curveball was not the extent of the "intel" at all, though the MSM would like one to believe that. It was one piece of second or third hand intelligence that buttressed the already-established widespread consensus (of the Western world's intelligence community). The links above provided by Dade detail this fact. The media blew this up as big as it could for ratings and to fit a partisan agenda, but there never has been any proof whatsoever Drumheller is telling the truth and Tenet is lying about what everyone knew and when. One can certainly argue that the CIA gave way more weight to this piece of intelligence than it should have under the circumstances, especially regarding Powell's testimony, but that is about all one can say. Not that the consensus opinion in any way relied on that piece or that anyone knew that piece to be fabricated at the time.

    http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/v...ory.asp?id=555

    The reason everyone believed that Saddam had WMDs is because he wanted everyone to believe he had WMDs. It is as simple as that.

    He acted like he had WMDs. His generals believed he had WMDs. He had the ability to make WMDs. WMDs are valuable. For years he refused to cooperate with UN inspectors. He admitted after being captured that he behaved like he had WMDs because he was worried about looking weak to Iran.

    There is no evidence whatsoever Bush "lied" about WMDs. None. Claiming so indicates that the person making the claim either a) is ignorant of the facts, or b) is ignorant of the meaning of the word "lie." One can quibble about the use of the rhetorical phrase of "no doubt" when really meaning "everyone agrees/believes," but that rhetoric is used all the time, from global warming to the affects of the stimulus to who is the best football player, and it was used by others (including Democrats) regarding Iraq WMDs.

    Nor is "no new taxes" (as earlier mentioned) a "lie" because it was made as a promise (that was eventually not kept). It was not a knowingly false statement when stated/promised.

    A "lie" is saying something known at that time to be untrue.




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    Re: Democrats lying again?

    Quote Originally Posted by Greg View Post
    Hussein had chemical weapons, i.e. WMDs. We know this because he used them on the Kurds and Iranians. Syria does not have a serious chemical weapon program yet they have them. It doesn't take much thinking to understand where the Syrian chemical weapons came from.

    And I am NOT a fan of Bush. I was against invading Iraq. But they did have WMDs and a nuclear program.
    They had them at one time, yes.

    But that's not what Powell said to the UN. He said the presently had them.

    Huge difference.

    Now do I think it was a "lie" in the truest sense of the word? Not really. I think the intel was pointing in that direction but it was a mistake to believe / sell the intel as truth to the American public.

    That's a classic politicians mistake going back decades.
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    Re: Democrats lying again?

    Quote Originally Posted by HoustonRaven View Post
    They had them at one time, yes.

    But that's not what Powell said to the UN. He said the presently had them.

    Huge difference.

    Now do I think it was a "lie" in the truest sense of the word? Not really. I think the intel was pointing in that direction but it was a mistake to believe / sell the intel as truth to the American public.

    That's a classic politicians mistake going back decades.
    Do you think Hussein had them destroyed? Of course not, he still had them. That is where the chemical weapons in Syria came from.




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    Re: Democrats lying again?

    Quote Originally Posted by Greg View Post
    Do you think Hussein had them destroyed? Of course not, he still had them. That is where the chemical weapons in Syria came from.
    Splitting hairs.

    Point is he didn't have any at the time Powell said he did.
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