Samari Rolle

**yeahravens** · 10-09-2007, 04:07 PM

Originally Posted by Rochardrik

Sir, or madam, This post was unconsionable, your following posts were even more ridiculous, as if someone telling you in so many words "your guess is as good as mine" (... that is what what he was saying, that your hypothesis was just a guess, as unfounded as any... because it is only conjecture,) was a slap in your face!... Or were you offended by the Starbucks reference?.

But your original post was completely uncalled for! It implies soooo much, with absolutely NO Thread of evidence. Chill out!

Bottom line is that there could be a hundred things that he would prefer not to be public Knowledge... deductive reasoning it was not. It's called jumping to conclusions,.... with malice!

Still, no one reads!!!! I DID NOT SAY THAT HE HAD AIDS, I DID NOT SAY THAT HE HAD HIV, I SAID ...
An earlier post talked about his trip to Africa, a place where AIDS/HIV runs rampant. I realize no one wanted to go there, but I know you all thought that, and that IS a disease the team would want to hide.

I did some research just to see if I was on track, pull up this PDF statement about the side effects of drug treatment for AIDS, the first one is Fatigue!

http://img.thebody.com/legacyAssets/...ffectchart.pdf

I hope I am wrong btw, however the more you cover something up, the worse I believe it is. Make your own decision, this is only a theory!!!!!!

I was implying that there was smoke, not concrete evidence you F**ing jerks! I was making the statement that it must be something serious for so much effort to hide it.

NOTICE THE PART WHERE I SAY I HOPE I AM WRONG, MAKE YOUR OWN DECISION, ONLY A THEORY.

WTF IS WRONG WITH YOU FOOLS? COMMENT ON WHAT IS THERE NOT YOUR F****'D UP INTERPRETATION!!!!!

**Greg** · 10-09-2007, 05:43 PM

FH, I don't think HIPAA has anything to do with it. I just think when appropriate the team is mum about why players are missing games. It's common decency by the coaching staff, protecting their own. I *think* HIPAA would apply equally to the more traditional football injuries.

Any and all medical information of any kind is covered by HIPAA. The NFL, I am quite sure, has negotiated with the players union to allow for football injuries to be released to the public. This is something the players had to agree to and is probably in every single NFL contract as a standard clause. The allowed specifics are evident, as the injury list is always generic.

Doubtful
Ogden, toe
Questionable
Dinkins, arm
Probable
Heap, ankle

Nothing specific, simply their chances to play and what body part is hurt, nothing more.

**festivus** · 10-09-2007, 06:07 PM

Originally Posted by Greg

Any and all medical information of any kind is covered by HIPAA. The NFL, I am quite sure, has negotiated with the players union to allow for football injuries to be released to the public. This is something the players had to agree to and is probably in every single NFL contract as a standard clause. The allowed specifics are evident, as the injury list is always generic.

Fair enough. But there are times when more details are forthcoming - Suggs & pink eye, Ivy & his emergency abdominal thing last year - and times when it's not - Mike Anderson early this year and Rolle now.

The HIPAA & injury list intersection is interesting. Even generic information can't be released I don't think without consent. There must be some form each player has to sign, with some kind of a release.

More problematic in college, where those consent forms would have bigger legal consequences. I think there was a dust up with the NCAA & HIPAA, though a quick glance around google tells me universities seem to be using some kind of HIPAA waiver.

**camdenyard** · 10-09-2007, 06:44 PM

Doubtful
Ogden, toe
Questionable
Dinkins, arm
Probable
Heap, ankle

Greg, what archive did you pull that out of?

**yeahravens** · 10-09-2007, 08:10 PM

Thank you Festivus,

That is all I was looking for.

I hope nothing crazy, and he will play soon

**Rochardrik** · 10-10-2007, 08:23 AM

Originally Posted by yeahravens

Still, no one reads!!!! I DID NOT SAY THAT HE HAD AIDS, I DID NOT SAY THAT HE HAD HIV, I SAID ...
An earlier post talked about his trip to Africa, a place where AIDS/HIV runs rampant. I realize no one wanted to go there, but I know you all thought that, and that IS a disease the team would want to hide.

I did some research just to see if I was on track, pull up this PDF statement about the side effects of drug treatment for AIDS, the first one is Fatigue!

http://img.thebody.com/legacyAssets/...ffectchart.pdf

I hope I am wrong btw, however the more you cover something up, the worse I believe it is. Make your own decision, this is only a theory!!!!!!

I was implying that there was smoke, not concrete evidence you F**ing jerks! I was making the statement that it must be something serious for so much effort to hide it.

NOTICE THE PART WHERE I SAY I HOPE I AM WRONG, MAKE YOUR OWN DECISION, ONLY A THEORY.

WTF IS WRONG WITH YOU FOOLS? COMMENT ON WHAT IS THERE NOT YOUR F****'D UP INTERPRETATION!!!!!

Pardon me, but you WERE insinuating that he MAY have aids/hiv. That's just a completely irresponsible thing to do! Now you're calling everyone who called you out on that a F****ing idiot? Fatigue is the first side effect of a whole host of ailments! Woops, you should look in the mirror!

**festivus** · 10-10-2007, 08:34 AM

Originally Posted by yeahravens

Thank you Festivus,

That is all I was looking for.

I hope nothing crazy, and he will play soon

Yeahravens, you clearly implied Samari Rolle might have AIDS. My post directed to Greg's comment had nothing to do with my comments directed at *you*, however you may choose to read them otherwise.

You keep demanding people read your post, I think everybody else *has*, and you have not.

Cheers!

**yeahravens** · 10-10-2007, 09:56 AM

Originally Posted by Rochardrik

Pardon me, but you WERE insinuating that he MAY have aids/hiv. That's just a completely irresponsible thing to do! Now you're calling everyone who called you out on that a F****ing idiot? Fatigue is the first side effect of a whole host of ailments! Woops, you should look in the mirror!

Yes, clearly I said it was a possibilty. So what? I also said I hoped I was wrong and whatever it is, it has to be pretty bad to hide for this long.

Three questions: are you insinuating that people with HIV or AIDS are bad, unpleasant, lesser people? If not, why would you berade me for stating it is a possibility? Had I guessed liver cancer, would that be as rude?

**ChampRavens** · 10-10-2007, 11:00 AM

Yes, clearly I said it was a possibilty. So what? I also said I hoped I was wrong and whatever it is, it has to be pretty bad to hide for this long.

Dont worry, you are.

That is one of the most moronic posts I have ever seen in my life.

Ever.

**yeahravens** · 10-10-2007, 11:20 AM

All I keep hearing is rude, moronic, no manners... blah blah blah

Answer my questions, or come up with a guess of your own, but don't keep judging something when you don't have the guts to make a guess of your own.

If you can't do either, let it go, move on to another topic. I get it, rude, moronic, mean, whatever....

**festivus** · 10-10-2007, 11:31 AM

No, you don't get it. It's the guessing, and the insisting other people must guess, that's the rude part. This is not 'Wheel of Sickness,' where we spin a wheel and guess letters to fill in the blanks and guess disease names. One, that's just rude, and two, it's stupid.

There's nothing to judge, and it's *your* effort to judge that is *precisely* the problem.

*Now* do you get it?

**Beerracuda** · 10-10-2007, 12:46 PM

If it is something he might have picked up in Africa, my first guesses would be either malaria or dengue fever. Dengue has been on the rise this year, and this is one ailment that would definitely be covered under the privacy act.

But who knows, it could be something completely unrelated to his Africa trip. It really could be anything, and since the Ravens aren't telling, we'll probably never know, so it's just about pointless to even discuss it.

We can only hope that whatever it is, he recovers soon, and is back wearing #22 ASAP.

**Bez513** · 10-10-2007, 01:06 PM

Rolle was back in practice:

http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/b...0,964652.story

**Winthrop19** · 10-10-2007, 02:58 PM

Samari practiced today. With all the new advancements in medicine it seems his AIDS is all cleared up and he is ready to go.

**highwater** · 10-10-2007, 03:11 PM

Originally Posted by Beerracuda

But who knows, it could be something completely unrelated to his Africa trip. It really could be anything, and since the Ravens aren't telling, we'll probably never know, so it's just about pointless to even discuss it.

I couldn't agree more -- the silence from the Ravens may be interesting, but it really is pointless to speculate. It's really none of our business anyway.

**psuasskicker** · 10-10-2007, 03:49 PM

NOTICE THE PART WHERE I SAY I HOPE I AM WRONG, MAKE YOUR OWN DECISION, ONLY A THEORY.

No you don't, you have a wild-ass guess. Here's the difference...

Theory - There's a theory that we are a result of evolution from lesser beings. It's testable and there's significant evidence pointing to the theory of evolution.

Wild-ass guess - I have a wild-ass guess that Rolle has missed practice because he has the Ebola virus, cause "the Ravens want to hide it" (not true), and Ebola is most common in Africa. It's testable, but based on complete conjecture and has absolutely no evidence behind it.

If you want to be taken seriously, act seriously.

- C -

**GreenWave52** · 10-10-2007, 04:18 PM

Originally Posted by Winthrop19

Samari practiced today. With all the new advancements in medicine it seems his AIDS is all cleared up and he is ready to go.

Hahahaha. Fantastic third post. That summed up everything I wanted to say in a short snarky sentence.

**daguruvjt** · 10-10-2007, 04:39 PM

I recall right when Samari was listed with an illness, Billick said something publically to the effect of, "We aren't going to say what he has, because people will say he has XYZ, why can't he play with that?" The problem is a reaction to whatever medication he is taking and not the illness.
Who knows? He could just have hayfever and tried a new medication and it messed him up.

He'll be back soon enough!

V.

**df1570** · 10-10-2007, 05:31 PM

I've seen some outlandish stuff on message boards in my day, but the guy who hinted that Samari Rolle's condition could be HIV/AIDS related wins the prize.

Wow.

Anyway, I know what Samari's condition is - and even though I've agreed to not talk about it on the air until Samari is comfortable making it public knowledge, I can absolutely assure all of you with 1000% certainty that it is NOT anything even remotely related to HIV, as if you all couldn't have figured that out yourselves.

I'm hearing Samari might get in 15-20 snaps this Sunday as the nickel back if all goes well with his practice sessions the rest of the week.

Just wanted to pass that info along to try and stop this foolishness of having someone hint that it could be HIV/AIDS related.

Carry on...

**ChampRavens** · 10-11-2007, 10:50 AM

It was probably some obscure African virus or was just exposed to their water, or some other variable that his body was not used to and he got sick. It sounds like the medication that he was taking was also giving him some issues.

That is pretty much what 99% of the posters on here thought anyways.

AIDS? HIV?

Don’t you get it? That hypothesis is so asinine that people must react with a sort of astonishment that such an incorrect and off base response is possible.

That is why everybody reacted the way they did. Not to mention you obligatory "liberal" shot when somebody dare question you on that take.