To All Raven Fans

**Rayvens52** · 11-06-2007, 01:57 PM

Originally Posted by Fanman

If I were at a game I doubt I would boo a player...maybe Billick. But I would never chastise a fan for booing. They pay good money to see their team play and 100% have the right to express displeasure if they feel like it. If a player can't take it then find a new career.

FM

I agree to an extent. But here is my problem, our D is giving it a 100%, you can say anything you want but any team missing both starting CB is going to have trouble. Our O is were the blame is to be held. But do not go to the stadium wearing bags that is just plain stupid. That is my whole point. Booing can be fine if they play like shit but not as soon as they come in. We are still a 500 team, and we need to stand by our team. That is all I am saying

**Pat McGroin** · 11-06-2007, 01:58 PM

Originally Posted by HoustonRaven

Im sorry but this "happy we have a team thing" is crap.

So let me get this straight, if you have a child who is misbehaving, you should just sit back, be quiet about your displeasure and just be happy you have a kid???

Or maybe you have a job and your boss treats you like dirt. By some posters logic, you should keep your pie hole shut and just be happy you have a job, too.

How about you're at your favorite restaurant and the meal you've been looking forward to all day comes out cold and nasty. So I should keep my trap shut, be thankful that I at least have some food, smile and pretend like nothing is wrong.

Maybe some people dont feel the need to demand excellence in their lives, but I will tell you there is one guy here who does .... THIS GUY!

As a PSL owner, I am emotionally AND financially invested in this team. If the team I love and care about is acting in a manner I dont approve of, I have a right ... no, a DUTY .... to voice my displeasure (respectfully, but bluntly)!

Sure you can voice your displeasure!!! We're all doing it right now on this board. Call a radio show. Send the team an email. Write a letter to the Sun.

Then go out on Sunday and scream your ass off, but don't boo!!

Booing the home team is counterproductive. The players and coaches know how pissed the fan base is, how can they not know?

Booing just doesn't make a whole lot of sense. There are lots of other ways to voice your opinion.

**highwater** · 11-06-2007, 01:59 PM

Although I am not much for booing, especially my own team, I can see why some would want to do that after this game. Not because they got blown out, but because of the perception (which apparently is reality) that some of the Ravens were acting like they didn't really care (see the "Jeff Blake Redux" thread). I wouldn't boo them for losing, but if some of the players were laughing it up after the game, acting like getting your ass handed to you on MNF was no big deal, that's something I'd consider booing. If we care more than they do, that's something I'd have a problem with.

**HoustonRaven** · 11-06-2007, 02:00 PM

Originally Posted by Pat McGroin

Sure you can voice your displeasure!!! We're all doing it right now on this board. Call a radio show. Send the team an email. Write a letter to the Sun.

Then go out on Sunday and scream your ass off, but don't boo!!

Booing the home team is counterproductive. The players and coaches know how pissed the fan base is, how can they not know?

Booing just doesn't make a whole lot of sense. There are lots of other ways to voice your opinion.

I see your point and agree to extent.

But if they announce Brians name next weekend, this guy is booing!

**Galen Sevinne** · 11-06-2007, 02:18 PM

Originally Posted by HoustonRaven

Im sorry but this "happy we have a team thing" is crap.

So let me get this straight, if you have a child who is misbehaving, you should just sit back, be quiet about your displeasure and just be happy you have a kid???

No I would wear a bag on my head when I am around him and boo him and chastise him everytime he fucks up.

Originally Posted by HoustonRaven

Or maybe you have a job and your boss treats you like dirt. By some posters logic, you should keep your pie hole shut and just be happy you have a job, too.

No I would wear a bag on my head when at work and boo and chastise him everytime he walks into my office.

Originally Posted by HoustonRaven

How about you're at your favorite restaurant and the meal you've been looking forward to all day comes out cold and nasty. So I should keep my trap shut, be thankful that I at least have some food, smile and pretend like nothing is wrong.

No I would put a bag on my head and boo and chastise everytime a waiter walks out of the kitchen.

Originally Posted by HoustonRaven

Maybe some people dont feel the need to demand excellence in their lives, but I will tell you there is one guy here who does .... THIS GUY!

As a PSL owner, I am emotionally AND financially invested in this team. If the team I love and care about is acting in a manner I dont approve of, I have a right ... no, a DUTY .... to voice my displeasure (respectfully, but bluntly)!

So wear a bag then and boo and chastise them after every play. I don't think anyone is avoiding voicing displeasure in this forum...the question is do you boo and chastise and wear bags on your head next Sunday at 4:00

**HoustonRaven** · 11-06-2007, 02:23 PM

Originally Posted by Galen Sevinne

So wear a bag then and boo and chastise them after every play. I don't think anyone is avoiding voicing displeasure in this forum...the question is do you boo and chastise and wear bags on your head next Sunday at 4:00

I wouldnt, no. But if someone wants to, go for it. Expression is acceptable in many forms. If Brian is announced individualy, I will boo -- no doubt in my mind about that one. I was more taking issues with the people saying "be happy we at least have a team".

When I hear that phrase I get a strong desire to slap them in the face with a dead fish. Mediocrity is nothing to strive for!

**SHORTTRACK** · 11-06-2007, 02:31 PM

Cheer. Don't cheer.
They paid for the ticket.
They can do what they want.

**RAVENOUS52** · 11-06-2007, 02:33 PM

I will NEVER boo my Ravens.

I lovem too much. Just as I would never boo my country!

It's one thing to be frustrated, but another thing completely to badmouth your team...

It makes you no better than Tony Kornholer, who seemed to get a thrill out of dissing us last night...

**highwater** · 11-06-2007, 02:36 PM

Originally Posted by RAVENOUS52

It makes you no better than Tony Kornholer, who seemed to get a thrill out of dissing us last night...

That guy sucks on MNF -- he makes these pompous opening statements that are apparently intended to be award winning meaningful material, then spends the rest of the game trying to be funny and usually ends up just being annoying.

**Rayvens52** · 11-06-2007, 02:37 PM

Originally Posted by HoustonRaven

I wouldnt, no. But if someone wants to, go for it. Expression is acceptable in many forms. If Brian is announced individualy, I will boo -- no doubt in my mind about that one. I was more taking issues with the people saying "be happy we at least have a team".

When I hear that phrase I get a strong desire to slap them in the face with a dead fish. Mediocrity is nothing to strive for!

And I am a psl owner also. I feel the same way you do, but booing your own team and wearing bags on your heads is fucking stupid. Like i said before you can do that when your team has been bad for ever like the lions and saints. We have a 500 team here, and though unlikly we are not out of the playoffs yet. Booing and all that other shit is just going to give opoosing fans more ammo this year and next and for years to come, please be smart baltimore! Do you really want to be put in the same class as eagles fans, i know i don't want to be. Is all this really a surprise to anyone anyway. We picked up a QB that has had more injuries than our entire team combined. The funny thing here is that everyone wants to blame the D, but all the names that arebeing said for laughing on the sideline are on offense. By booing your own team you are only hurting your fans, the players and billick do not give a shit about us we are outsiders. They are not playing the game for us like we would like to think they are. I really don't want to have to hear about this from other fans for years to come, that is all we will hear this from not our players and you better beleive that!

**festivus** · 11-06-2007, 02:38 PM

Originally Posted by SHORTTRACK

Cheer. Don't cheer.
They paid for the ticket.
They can do what they want.

Yes, they can say what they want there, just as we can say what we want here. Just because they *can* doesn't mean they *should* and there is NOTHING wrong with calling them out for booing the home team.

I paid money for my car, that doesn't mean I should be driving around the beltway 50 mph in the passing lane. And you can come here to this forum and complain about it when I do, and you'd be right.

**Galen Sevinne** · 11-06-2007, 02:38 PM

Originally Posted by RAVENOUS52

It makes you no better than Tony Kornholer, who seemed to get a thrill out of dissing us last night...

yea...what was up with that guy? What a dick.

**RavenScallywag** · 11-06-2007, 02:40 PM

I agree with Sports Steve...as mad as I am at certain players and coaches right now, I still want the Ravens to fight on. Booing them is just going to turn them against Baltimore.

I have tickets to the Bengals game, which will be my first ever regular season game...On the one hand, I'm dreading seeing another blowout if we still don't have either of our starting CBs. But on the other hand, I can't wait to get in that stadium and cheer with my fellow fans for my Ravens.

just my thoughts.

**HoustonRaven** · 11-06-2007, 02:40 PM

Originally Posted by Galen Sevinne

yea...what was up with that guy? What a dick.

Um were you watching the game? We deserved to get dissed. Even hard nosed ex-players were dissing us!

We not only laid a huge steaming pile, we did it in front of about 2 dozen HoFer's and a national TV audience. Oh, and let me not forget our trash talking to their sidelines when the game was out of reach.

I feel you about Tony -- he is an abortion of an announcer. But sometimes even turds like him get it right and we deserved his comments last night.

**highwater** · 11-06-2007, 02:47 PM

I agree (and I think we probably all agree) that we deserved to be dissed, but that's a separate issue from the fact/opinion that Kornhole sucks on MNF most of the time, and his snippy criticisms are not like hearing us getting ripped by Dikta or Jaws or somebody with some credibility.

**Galen Sevinne** · 11-06-2007, 02:49 PM

Originally Posted by highwater

I agree (and I think we probably all agree) that we deserved to be dissed, but that's a separate issue from the fact/opinion that Kornhole sucks on MNF most of the time, and his snippy criticisms are not like hearing us getting ripped by Dikta or Jaws or somebody with some credibility.

he was dissing the Ravens before it really got bad...he seemed to have an agenda early on and got carried away with it as things really turned bad. He is a kornhole.

**Rayvens52** · 11-06-2007, 02:55 PM

Originally Posted by Galen Sevinne

he was dissing the Ravens before it really got bad...he seemed to have an agenda early on and got carried away with it as things really turned bad. He is a kornhole.

That is because he has always hated Billick. Anytime you watch PTI over the past couple of years he has never had a good thing to say about him, not that I blame him

**Losac** · 11-06-2007, 03:09 PM

Originally Posted by Galen Sevinne

he was dissing the Ravens before it really got bad...he seemed to have an agenda early on and got carried away with it as things really turned bad. He is a kornhole.

It went along with the whole ESPN Steeler Ass-Kiss Fest that was the theme of the evening from about an hour before kickoff on.

Sorry but I could have done without the closeup shots of Hines Ward's nasty ass feet getting a pedicure.

**SHORTTRACK** · 11-06-2007, 03:11 PM

Should people drink beer before or during the game? If so how many?

**festivus** · 11-06-2007, 03:14 PM

Shorttrack, when you are booing *our* team, you are booing *my* team, so I can write here that I don't like it. Call me judgemental, I don't care, I'm standing up for *my* team. Pay for a seat on the boat, it doesn't mean I want you drilling a hole through the hull underneath.

You want to say everyone here is on a soap box, I have news for you. You are on one too.