Art Modell Chant

**HoustonRaven** · 11-13-2007, 01:44 PM

We need a simple and effective chant to jump start enthusiasm to get Art in the Hall of Fame ....

It needs to be something very simple and at a time when the TV cameras are live on the game.

Any thoughts on what to say and when??? I have a friend that can make signs similar to the "Free the Birds" signs. I am sure he cant put whatever slogan we come up with on themas well as instructions as to when to say it.

**flraven** · 11-13-2007, 01:46 PM

How about a simple "PUT ART IN THE HALL!"

or

"PUT ART IN THE HOF!"

**HoustonRaven** · 11-13-2007, 01:53 PM

Originally Posted by flraven

How about a simple "PUT ART IN THE HALL!"

or

"PUT ART IN THE HOF!"

I like it! But I'd drop "put" to keep it simple .... "ART IN THE HALL! ART IN THE HALL!"

But when is the bigger problem I think.

**Sports Steve** · 11-13-2007, 02:49 PM

I have suggested for the last couple of weeks to have Raven fans at their tailgate have signs up. I am this week making a professional sign that will be worn on the front of my beads to get the attention of as many press people as possible. The real key that Raven fans have to do is e-mail members of the Selection Committee. They are the ones that send in the names. The mail person is the member in the Cleveland area.

To find their names type in NFL Hall Of Fame selection commitee that should give you the information needed. Just shouting out at a home game won't be enough. The reason some Raven fans don't even think Art Modell should be in the Hall Of Fame.

**HoustonRaven** · 11-13-2007, 02:57 PM

Originally Posted by Sports Steve

I have suggested for the last couple of weeks to have Raven fans at their tailgate have signs up. I am this week making a professional sign that will be worn on the front of my beads to get the attention of as many press people as possible. The real key that Raven fans have to do is e-mail members of the Selection Committee. They are the ones that send in the names. The mail person is the member in the Cleveland area.

To find their names type in NFL Hall Of Fame selection commitee that should give you the information needed. Just shouting out at a home game won't be enough. The reason some Raven fans don't even think Art Modell should be in the Hall Of Fame.

Agreed. I understand the selection process and fans should certainly email the selection committee.

I am more speaking to getting a grass roots thing started as well. If we can get publicity for this (similar to the Free the Birds campaign), it puts that much more pressure on the pinheads who've been voting against him.

**Sports Steve** · 11-13-2007, 03:05 PM

Originally Posted by HoustonRaven

Agreed. I understand the selection process and fans should certainly email the selection committee.

I am more speaking to getting a grass roots thing started as well. If we can get publicity for this (similar to the Free the Birds campaign), it puts that much more pressure on the pinheads who've been voting against him.

HEY ANYTHING the FANS WANT TO DO I'M THERE. I'VE HAD IT ON MY WEB SITE FOR OVER A YEAR. We to put 100% pressureon the selection committee. I've been working on this for the last couple of years to get Art Modell.

Don't worry I'll be there.

**Jggjaron** · 11-13-2007, 03:20 PM

Art truly deserves this

**HoustonRaven** · 11-13-2007, 03:24 PM

Originally Posted by Sports Steve

HEY ANYTHING the FANS WANT TO DO I'M THERE. I'VE HAD IT ON MY WEB SITE FOR OVER A YEAR. We to put 100% pressureon the selection committee. I've been working on this for the last couple of years to get Art Modell.

Don't worry I'll be there.

Awesome! Shoot me your email when you get a chance. I have a web guy willing to get a web site up promoting Art in the Hall as well.

**RavenTD** · 11-13-2007, 04:38 PM

Art needs to go in while he still walks this earth not posthumously.

**SHORTTRACK** · 11-14-2007, 07:03 AM

Did Art vote for or against Baltimore expansion?

**Real Fan Dan** · 11-14-2007, 03:37 PM

against.

**RavenDavey** · 11-14-2007, 03:49 PM

Arrrrrrrrrrty, Arrrrrrrrrrty, Arrrrrrrrrrty,

HALL OF FAME!!

Arrrrrrrrrrty, Arrrrrrrrrrty, Arrrrrrrrrrty,

HALL OF FAME!!

**Real Fan Dan** · 11-14-2007, 03:56 PM

I kind of think maybe people are going about this all wrong.
A couple of weeks ago they had a dinner honoring Mr. Modell. It was supposed to start a "campaign" to get him in the hall. They charged $150 a plate. Cha! How many regular fans are going to be interested in that? That kind of stuff turns me off immediately. You don't need money you need publicity. Why didn't they throw a bullroast for $35 that would have drawn a couple thousand folks? Why didn't they make an anouncement at the Ravens game starting an email campaign? It was very good that they honored Mr. Modell, I just don't think the campaign is going to work.

As far as a chant at the stadium goes, ten times more people would be more interested in yelling "Billick Sucks!" rather than "Art in the Hall".

**Mista T** · 11-14-2007, 05:06 PM

Just to be totally honest here: I can't get excited about this issue. Sure, it would be nice to happen, and I really appreciate Art moving the team here after he couldn't get his new stadium in Cleveland, but what Art did to deserve HOF consideration was as the owner of the Browns. I don't see it as being much different than HOF consideration for Shannon Sharpe, Rod Woodson, or Steve McNair. They all contributed to the Ravens, but none of them deserve HOF consideration as a member of the Ravens organization.

**SHORTTRACK** · 11-15-2007, 07:28 AM

Art Modell (w/ Lerner in his ear) voted against Baltimore expansion. He did not care about Baltimore but himself keeping Baltimore in his back pocket in case things fell through in Cleveland. IF things did not fall through in Cleveland we would not be on this board right now. I agree w/ T that Modell did in fact do some great things for the League during his tenure in Cleve.
BUT as far as a Baltimore goes he used us as a chip in his pocket to cash in if need be and then used us to get financially healthy. Modell vote basically stated that it was better for the league to have a franchise in Jax rather than Baltimore (which hasn't turned out too well for the league) and then turns around and moves here (when he had little choice) saying what a great city it is, what great football history, great football town, etc.

**HoustonRaven** · 11-15-2007, 08:53 AM

My God ... can there be more inaccuracies in these posts?

SHORTTRACK, please go find ESPN's show on Art and him leaving Cleveland. ESPN is NO fan of anything Baltimore but they did a very fair and honest assesment of the situation.

I believe the show was called "Top 5 Reason You Cant Blame Art Modell"

**SHORTTRACK** · 11-15-2007, 11:43 AM

I saw the ESPN piece and have read several books on the topic.
Modell did not vote for Baltimore in expansion.

**Greg** · 11-15-2007, 11:48 AM

SHORTTRACK is on, a number of owners voted against Baltimore BECAUSE we had such a sweet deal. Fact is, they didn't think a new owner should get that deal. SOMEBODY was going to move here, Art jumped first. Mainly because he was the most desperate.

**WxKevin** · 11-15-2007, 11:48 AM

Originally Posted by SHORTTRACK

I saw the ESPN piece and have read several books on the topic.
Modell did not vote for Baltimore in expansion.

OK, so he didn't vote for us to get an Expansion team. There are also 28 or so other owners at that time who didn't vote for Baltimore. They were all wrong. This one thing doesn't diminish the 30 some years of good things he did for the NFL.

**HoustonRaven** · 11-15-2007, 01:52 PM

Originally Posted by Greg

SHORTTRACK is on, a number of owners voted against Baltimore BECAUSE we had such a sweet deal. Fact is, they didn't think a new owner should get that deal. SOMEBODY was going to move here, Art jumped first. Mainly because he was the most desperate.

I dont deny Modell was desperate. I think thats well established fact. It's the "why he was desperate" I take issue with. People think he had a choice on which city (he didnt) and everyone seems to forget the handcuffing the city of Cleveland was giving him.

He had a choice to make -- stay in Cleveland and lose money hand over fist or take the first deal that came along (that gave him the monetary benefits of a new stadium). He picked us, rightfully so for both his business sake and personal financial sake.

Modell is a shrewed businessman, as any good owner ought to be. He also showed class by leaving the stats and team name behind -- something, at the time, many owners didnt understand.