Just heard McNair's post game comments on 1300...

**Raveninwoodlawn** · 11-11-2007, 07:44 PM

Wow...

To paraphrase after being asked about how he played and whether he will get the start next week...

"this is the lowest point of my career...the INT and strip were bad breaks while trying to make plays and really frustrating after driving the ball well on those drives...We just can't put the ball in the end zone...At least thankfully Kyle got the ball in the end zone in the last 2 minutes...I don't know what is going on this year, last year we got all the breaks, this year we aren't getting any...I don't know what the coaches will do as far as the starter next week...I'm killing this football team with TO's right now and if I were a coach I might make the decision to go with Kyle myself...All I can think of to do is to just work hard.

This was all said with a terribly depressing tone and you can't help but feel bad for the man personally and as a man that really is doing all he can but just can't do it anymore.

I felt bad listening to it because he really sounds like a beaten man and You know the pride that he has. But you can't have your QB talking like that expecting to be a leader.

You have to take him out.

**HoustonRaven** · 11-11-2007, 07:48 PM

Originally Posted by Raveninwoodlawn

Wow...

To paraphrase after being asked about how he played and whether he will get the start next week...

"this is the lowest point of my career...the INT and strip were bad breaks while trying to make plays and really frustrating after driving the ball well on those drives...We just can't put the ball in the end zone...At least thankfully Kyle got the ball in the end zone in the last 2 minutes...I don't know what is going on this year, last year we got all the breaks, this year we aren't getting any...I don't know what the coaches will do as far as the starter next week...I'm killing this football team with TO's right now and if I were a coach I might make the decision to go with Kyle myself...All I can think of to do is to just work hard.

This was all said with a terribly depressing tone and you can't help but feel bad for the man personally and as a man that really is doing all he can but just can't do it anymore.

I felt bad listening to it because he really sounds like a beaten man and You know the pride that he has. But you can't have your QB talking like that expecting to be a leader.

You have to take him out.

Huge props to McNair for being man enough to admit it. He is, and always has been, a class act.

When all this emotion dies down, I think everyone here will agree what we are witnessing on the field this season is not the the Steve McNair we have all grown to respect.

Instead we are witnessing a former great QB at the end of a great career and it it just kills me his legacy is being tarnished in this way.

**RavenTD** · 11-11-2007, 07:56 PM

The guy has been a warrior.But he has just fought too many battles,and his body isn't where it used to be.So he has no answer on how to make his body work like it used to when he was younger.He is reaching too far.

That's why I rated McNair over Grbac,due to his attitude.Class,a warrior,
and giving his all for the team.

Big thumbs up to Steve saying this,and it lifts a load off of Billicks shoulders.

Steve you are class,mother nature has just caught up with you.

**Purpleguy** · 11-11-2007, 08:08 PM

Did he mention anything about refunding some of the tremendous money he is being payed to play like this?

**sailorsam** · 11-11-2007, 08:37 PM

Originally Posted by HoustonRaven

Huge props to McNair for being man enough to admit it. He is, and always has been, a class act.

When all this emotion dies down, I think everyone here will agree what we are witnessing on the field this season is not the the Steve McNair we have all grown to respect.

Instead we are witnessing a former great QB at the end of a great career and it it just kills me his legacy is being tarnished in this way.

wow...exactly what I were thinking. I only wish Coach BB had seen this coming.

**Kevlar** · 11-11-2007, 09:31 PM

Feel bad for him? Maybe if he donated his game check to a refund for fans who paid for tickets to see his sorry play.

**StingerNLG** · 11-11-2007, 09:42 PM

Hearing those comments I feel bad for him. He's had a great career. But maybe he's really starting to realize that career is over. And I don't doubt for a minute this isn't how he wanted to go out.

But there is a realism involved and McNair hit it on the head. He's killing the team. He is costing them games, and he may have just cost the Ravens the playoffs. Maybe it's time for him to step aside. I would have great respect for him if he did that. Come out and say that he feels he needs to step back and let Kyle take the team, and he ould do everything he can to help Kyle succeed. It would show great class and courage, and would give him someone to truly mentor from behind the scenes like he would have done with Vince Young in Tennessee.

That's a far off pipe-dream I am sure.

**StingerNLG** · 11-11-2007, 10:20 PM

Perhaps pictures really do speak a thousand words:

**ravenjoe** · 11-11-2007, 10:58 PM

McNair is Not a quitter. Yes, he knows he is hurting the team. It's just amazing that the head coach has not seen this coming. He stays with QBs too long, and this is just another example. We probably have witnessed the last game in this great QBs career.

**PARavensJeff** · 11-12-2007, 08:23 AM

Originally Posted by StingerNLG

Perhaps pictures really do speak a thousand words:

Hey, did you read in the game program that McNair takes a nap an hour before the game? That's the problem, he's still half asleep when the game starts!!! This pic looks like he's still in his pre game nap. Elvis was done after the "crying picture", is Steve done after the "sleeping picture"?

**Mista T** · 11-12-2007, 10:19 AM

Originally Posted by ravenjoe

. We probably have witnessed the last game in this great QBs career.

I sure hope so .....

**RAVENOUS52** · 11-13-2007, 07:17 PM

I had an unsettling feeling after last week that this would be the week and I even said as much...

Too bad the great ones normally hang on too long, ala Johnny U, Dan Marino, Troy Aikman, etc...

**Tspot-D-Ravenator** · 11-13-2007, 07:48 PM

well, why doesn't everyone stop spewing angry and hateful words at the poor guy! I hear it on the radio and I am just sick of it! I'm sure he hears it too....I do believe he is still injured and that is the reason he's done for the year! I'd still want him as my back up QB...I love the guy and I think it takes a true man to say what he said

...Steve McNair is a true warrior

**Tspot-D-Ravenator** · 11-13-2007, 07:53 PM

Originally Posted by Kevlar

Feel bad for him? Maybe if he donated his game check to a refund for fans who paid for tickets to see his sorry play.

hey man, you take a chance when you pay out the money

...Just be glad we have a team to root for

**Ravenswarrior19** · 11-14-2007, 08:48 AM

It is truly sad to witness what we are seeing. I've got all the respect in the world for McNair. Hell, I love the guy. I've even got a bit of hope that its not totally over for him. I just don't want to see the experiment take place while my team loses games and wastes another year of great defense.

The truly intriguing part is McNair's contract. I hope there is some kind of clause in it to recoup some cap space. Was the thing really 5 years? Who thought for a second the McNair had more than 2-3 years in him when we brought him in?

**HoustonRaven** · 11-14-2007, 06:50 PM

Originally Posted by Ravenswarrior19

It is truly sad to witness what we are seeing. I've got all the respect in the world for McNair. Hell, I love the guy. I've even got a bit of hope that its not totally over for him. I just don't want to see the experiment take place while my team loses games and wastes another year of great defense.

The truly intriguing part is McNair's contract. I hope there is some kind of clause in it to recoup some cap space. Was the thing really 5 years? Who thought for a second the McNair had more than 2-3 years in him when we brought him in?

From a business stand point, you just bench him. Once he's benched, you hope he he either stays on as a mentor or retires.

**StingerNLG** · 11-14-2007, 09:38 PM

McNair has been good to this team, and it's been from what I'm just reading not just on the field:

http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/f...,2644467.story

And he has now had the advantage of veteran tutelage the past two seasons he was denied the previous three. Those around the team agree McNair's presence has speeded Boller's growth. And, Boller said, McNair's public support of him as his backup -- even last Sunday, when McNair came out of that horrendous game against Cincinnati and said he was comfortable with Boller replacing him -- made a difference.

"It means a lot to me, because he doesn't have to say that," Boller said. "That's not something he has to say to you [media] guys or anybody. So having a relationship like that with a guy, that means we're together, and that's important. It's a healthy relationship, and it's good for our offense."

How good, we're about to find out.

Boller insists the game has "slowed down" for him more and more each season. Teammates swear they see McNair's calm in the face of crisis rubbing off on Boller, a welcome change from the frantic, rattled style he showed off so much before. Plus, it's painfully obvious that, physically, there are things Boller now does better than McNair.

I've said this since we signed McNair. Even IF he is no longer physically a serviceable QB, his presence here affects Kyle Boller too. And if Boller does finally click and succeed as a Ravens QB, then I give a LOT of that credit to Steve McNair.

I told Rob Long a month ago, and posted here that I thought the front office wasn't really ready to give up on Boller yet, and bringing in McNair was one last effort to make up for the mistake they made in rushing Boller on the field with no one to "mentor" him.

Anyway, I know McNair has lost his abilities physically. But I still think he has done a lot for the Ravens.

**HoustonRaven** · 11-15-2007, 08:46 AM

Originally Posted by StingerNLG

I've said this since we signed McNair. Even IF he is no longer physically a serviceable QB, his presence here affects Kyle Boller too. And if Boller does finally click and succeed as a Ravens QB, then I give a LOT of that credit to Steve McNair.

Agreed. And it down right confuses me when I see posters who swear just the opposite is true.