Is it Time for JO to GO

**flraven** · 11-20-2007, 04:12 AM

Originally Posted by purplepoe

We sure have some classy fans.

Let's ignore the fact that the team and Billick specifically practically BEGGED Ogden to come back. HE was the one contemplating hanging it up.

Now we've got morons (yes, morons) claiming that Ogden is missing blocking assignments on purpose because he doesn't like Kyle Boller as his QB.

Then we have the idiots (yes, idiots) who claim he's only in it for the money while ignoring, once again, the fact that one of this team's #1 priorities in the offseason was convincing Ogden to come back and play for one more season.

You people do remember that this team had high aspirations for this season right? It wasn't as if we were in a rebuilding year and making the playoffs was a long shot and that Ogden just came back to go through the motions of a .500 or sub .500 season.

Losing certainly brings out the absolute worst in fans. That's with any city. But you guys take the cake with some of this bullshit.

Let's crap on a guy who is not only the best OLinemen we've ever had but is certainly in the conversation as the one of the best LT's to ever play the game.

It's obvious he's not 100%. But to insinuate he's tanking on purpose or just in it for the money is shameful.

Im sure this won't be the last post bashing formerly great Ravens. Seems to be a trend around here.

PP

Rack that!

I don't think for a minute that JO is just here to collect a paycheck.

**xmradiodave** · 11-20-2007, 04:34 AM

I think he plays for the love of the game and obviously a paycheck. That is why any of us go to work. He is slowing down though and the game around him is speeding up. I think this should be his last season.

Also, Remember that he lost his father last season. They were close. Both John and Marques had some personal issues about continuing their career after that. You can not fault the guy for considering hanging it up when the man who inspired him died. He has not been the same since then.

**Ravenswarrior19** · 11-20-2007, 05:15 AM

Was he really bad last year??? Maybe I'm blind, but I saw a JO that had one of his better years in pass protection, killed people run-blocking, and gutted out a toe injury to stone his biggest nemesis in a playoff game. Say what you want about this year, but don't try to re-write history about last year.

**4G63** · 11-20-2007, 11:20 AM

Let me ask everyone this: What was Adalius Thomas doing during most of the Colts game this year for the Patriots? Sitting on the sideline! Why was he there? Because the Patriots didn't think he was the best solution to their problem!

You're probably wondering why I bring this up but my point is the Patriots basically sat their new $20 million man because he didn't fit their need for that game. Think about that for a second! If JO isn't getting the job done during the game, then you either send help his way or pull him! Thats why this team has all the problems it does; they stick with someone who isn't doing their job because of some kind of loyalty to his past. Now do I think he's doing this on purpose? Hell NO!! But he got blown up numerous times during the Browns game and should have had help or he should have been pulled for ineffectiveness.....This blind loyalty for things done in the past is what drives me nuts!

Thats why I'm starting to like the Patriots more and more every day. They do whats needed to WIN THE GAME....not appease fans or players......Could you imagine if the Ravens sat McGahee for a game and used Musa Smith instead, and we won? You guys wouldn't know what to say.......

**festivus** · 11-20-2007, 11:25 AM

Take a deep breath 4G.

Everybody on the OL was getting blown up. It's not like we had people available to help; the line was getting swarmed under the whole first half.

Make adjustments, you suggest. Well I don't know if they did or if they didn't but the OL looked a lot better in the second half.

**4G63** · 11-20-2007, 12:38 PM

Originally Posted by festivus

Take a deep breath 4G.

Everybody on the OL was getting blown up. It's not like we had people available to help; the line was getting swarmed under the whole first half.

Make adjustments, you suggest. Well I don't know if they did or if they didn't but the OL looked a lot better in the second half.

Correct, they made adjustments at halftime, but JO was the worst one on the line.....It looked as if he was still having problems with his foot as he wasn't able to plant like he usually does.

I realize I'm just giving lip service and it won't make a bit of difference, but JO isn't nearly what he used to be! The left side is Kyle's blind side and if he needs help then give it to him; I'd rather have extra protection there vs. the right and center.....we can only hope Boller will see the blitz's coming up the middle and right side then make the necessary adjustments....