Does it really matter to you if we lose

**StingerNLG** · 12-16-2007, 03:58 PM

Originally Posted by The Fanatic

I find it hard to believe that any real fan could be feeling good right now.

RACK IT!

I am numb right now.

**RavenTD** · 12-16-2007, 04:00 PM

Originally Posted by StingerNLG

RACK IT!

I am numb right now.

I was numb 2 hours ago. I don't know where I am at now.
I am just glad I don't have any alcohol in the house.

**UKRavenStockers** · 12-16-2007, 04:12 PM

I'm still not numb about the loss, I've been numb since Stover missed that FG. Looked like there was a problem with the snap or the hold and Matt didn't get his foot around the ball or something, but damn, I'm in a complete and utter daze.

I defy anyone to be in a good mood right now about how this defeat sets us up. It's not even as if it sets us up for a good pick. There's 8 teams with 4 losses or worse right now and we've played one of the strongest schedules in the league and have beaten two of the other teams down here!

**flraven** · 12-16-2007, 04:20 PM

that was fugly. And to boot, I was sitting with several Miami fans who were (understandably) elated. I turned down several offers of free beer, and for me to turn down free beer, that is RARE.

Please right this ship, NOW!

**RavenTD** · 12-16-2007, 04:22 PM

Please right this ship, NOW!

Or blow it up,and build one that doesn't leak.

**crazyraven** · 12-16-2007, 04:29 PM

I'm pissed--not numb-- im not going to get suckered into Miami's only meaningful Game the entire season... but I realize that things will get better next year when we have a high draft position.

**xmradiodave** · 12-16-2007, 04:32 PM

I saw that loss coming before the first snap.

Now Ray Lewis has a broken hand... wow.

**Bez513** · 12-16-2007, 04:34 PM

Top 10 pick here we come.

**xmradiodave** · 12-16-2007, 04:35 PM

guess that is our silver lining at this point.

**Sephy** · 12-16-2007, 04:53 PM

Originally Posted by Bez513

Top 10 pick here we come.

We were already #8 before this game. Looking like a top 5 is looming at this point.

**UKRavenStockers** · 12-16-2007, 05:19 PM

Originally Posted by Sephy

We were already #8 before this game. Looking like a top 5 is looming at this point.

Gonna need some help for that.

8 teams with 4 wins or worse right now, all playing some horrid football.

In terms of tiebreakers, we've beaten two of the teams down there with us (Rams & 49ers) and I believe we have one of the stronger schedules of teams down there with potentially six or seven playoff teams on our schedule (I think, Steelers, Pats, Colts, Chargers, Browns, Seahawks, Cardinals). I think we're likely to be at the bottom of the tree on tiebreakers.

**RavenScallywag** · 12-16-2007, 05:29 PM

As long as we're top 10, I'm ok. We'll get, barring trading of picks, 1 top caliber player in round 1, and a possible 1st round fall pick from round 2.

**Sephy** · 12-16-2007, 05:44 PM

Originally Posted by UKRavenStockers

Gonna need some help for that.

8 teams with 4 wins or worse right now, all playing some horrid football.

In terms of tiebreakers, we've beaten two of the teams down there with us (Rams & 49ers) and I believe we have one of the stronger schedules of teams down there with potentially six or seven playoff teams on our schedule (I think, Steelers, Pats, Colts, Chargers, Browns, Seahawks, Cardinals). I think we're likely to be at the bottom of the tree on tiebreakers.

Oh I know. I don't think head to head is a draft tiebreaker, but I might be wrong. But with the rest of our schedule as is, we are guaranteed a top 10 pick pretty much.

**UKRavenStockers** · 12-16-2007, 05:52 PM

Originally Posted by Sephy

Oh I know. I don't think head to head is a draft tiebreaker, but I might be wrong. But with the rest of our schedule as is, we are guaranteed a top 10 pick pretty much.

I think head to head comes in for non-playoff teams when you're in a two way tie. But as it is, it looks like there will be four or five teams with 4 wins, so it'll come down to SOS and we look like being at the bottom of the list on that.

**crazyraven** · 12-17-2007, 08:39 AM

Miami Dolphins 1 13
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St. Louis Rams 3 11
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New York Jets 3 11
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Atlanta Falcons 3 11
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Baltimore Ravens 4 10
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Oakland Raiders 4 10
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Kansas City Chiefs 4 10
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San Francisco 49ers 4 10
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Here is the list of the possible teams that could have high ranking spots in next year draft along with the teams they play.

KC looks like they could pull out their next two with meeting with Det and NYJ they might not even be in the equation in two weeks.

Oakland seems to be in the same boat as the ravens as they will probably be hammered by 2 playoff teams in following weeks.

As for atlanta, if they stay with redman the rest of the way they should stay at 3 wins the rest of the way.

We might be able to sneak in with a top 5 but I think a 6,7 or 8 is more likely.