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    Tony Pashos has been one of the best RTs in the NFL this year.



    He's much maligned but if you check the stats, he's one of the best this year:

    Team Surname Forename Pos Games Starts Pens Yds FS Holding Sacks
    Cleveland Tucker Ryan RT 6 6 1 10 0 1 7.5
    Pittsburgh Starks Max RT 8 8 1 5 1 0 7
    San Francisco Harris Kwame RT 8 8 4 40 1 2 5.5
    N.Y. Jets Clement Anthony RT 8 8 1 5 1 0 5
    Arizona Ross Oliver RT 6 5 0 0 0 0 5
    Oakland Walker Langston RT 8 8 4 30 2 2 4.75
    Minnesota Johnson Marcus RT 8 8 4 35 1 3 4.5
    N.Y. Giants McKenzie Kareem RT 7 7 2 15 1 1 4.5
    Miami Carey Vernon RT 8 8 1 10 0 1 4.5
    Cleveland Butler Kelly RT 2 2 0 0 0 0 4
    Houston Wiegert Zach RT 8 8 4 40 0 3 3.75
    Tampa Bay Trueblood Jeremy RT 7 5 6 45 3 1 3.5
    Dallas Colombo Marc RT 8 8 3 20 1 0 3.5
    New Orleans Stinchcomb Jon RT 8 8 1 5 1 0 3.5
    New England O'Callaghan Ryan RT 7 6 0 0 0 0 3.5
    St. Louis Barron Alex RT 8 8 6 30 6 0 3.25
    Washington Jansen Jon RT 8 8 6 45 3 3 3
    Chicago Miller Fred RT 8 8 3 20 1 0 3

    Philadelphia Runyan Jon RT 8 8 3 20 2 1 2.5
    Cincinnati Anderson Willie RT 8 8 2 15 1 1 2.5
    Seattle Locklear Sean RT 6 6 2 15 1 1 2.5
    Carolina Bridges Jeremy RT 6 6 1 5 1 0 2.5
    Atlanta Weiner Todd RT 8 8 3 15 3 0 2.25
    Indianapolis Diem Ryan RT 8 8 4 25 3 1 2
    Denver Foster George RT 8 8 2 15 1 1 2
    Detroit Scott Jonathan RT 5 2 2 15 1 1 2
    Detroit Stokes Barry RT 4 4 1 5 1 0 2

    San Diego Olivea Shane RT 8 8 4 23 3 1 1.5
    Detroit Tucker Rex RT 3 2 1 5 1 0 1.5
    Kansas City Sampson Kevin RT 6 6 1 10 0 1 1.5
    Buffalo Pennington Terrence RT 3 1 0 0 0 0 1.5

    Baltimore Pashos Tony RT 8 8 3 20 1 0 1
    Jacksonville Williams Maurice RT 8 8 3 19 0 2 1

    Seattle Ashworth Tom RT 8 2 3 15 3 0 1
    N.Y. Giants Whitfield Bob RT 8 1 1 10 0 1 1
    Tennessee Stewart David RT 6 6 1 14 0 0 1
    Tampa Bay Walker Kenyatta RT 3 3 1 10 0 1 0.5

    Buffalo Peters Jason RT 7 7 4 20 4 0 0
    Carolina Fordham Todd RT 8 1 2 10 2 0 0
    Green Bay Tauscher Mark RT 8 8 1 10 0 1 0
    Arizona Wells Reggie RT 2 2 0 0 0 0 0
    Arizona Liwienski Chris RT 1 1 0 0 0 0 0
    Carolina Gross Jordan RT 1 1 0 0 0 0 0
    Kansas City Turley Kyle RT 1 1 0 0 0 0 0
    Kansas City Black Jordan RT 1 1 0 0 0 0 0
    New England Kaczur Nick RT 3 1 0 0 0 0 0
    New England Britt Wesley RT 6 1 0 0 0 0 0
    Tennessee Bell Jacob RT 2 2 0 0 0 0 0
    The above were compiled by a British friend of mine who does a ton of analysis every week.

    Essentially this tells us what we all knew already, RTs just aren't very good for a reason, if they're good they get shifted over to LT, see Jammal Brown of New Orleans as a prime example.




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    Re: Tony Pashos has been one of the best RTs in the NFL this year.

    Don't know about this, of all positions, you can't sum up a lineman in stats. Doesn't take into account pressure, technique, etc..




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    Re: Tony Pashos has been one of the best RTs in the NFL this year.

    Well we've starting running to the right side for a change since Billick took over the offense

    He's not as bad as he used to be, but not sure if he's near the top -- would think that he's more around the middle

    A key stat that's missing is the number of yards / carry or total yards that the team gets in running behind him; last year our right side was horrible [ KC Joyner Scientific Football 2006] -- don't know what its been this year, but don't think its that much better except for the last 2 games

    Another stat that would help outside of stats are the number of hurries that he's allowed




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    Re: Tony Pashos has been one of the best RTs in the NFL this year.

    He isn't today!!!!!




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    Re: Tony Pashos has been one of the best RTs in the NFL this year.

    Pashos was destroyed today.




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    Re: Tony Pashos has been one of the best RTs in the NFL this year.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sephy View Post
    Don't know about this, of all positions, you can't sum up a lineman in stats. Doesn't take into account pressure, technique, etc..
    Totally agree with that, but you just won't find many clubs that is happy with their RT, it's just endemic of the position, you'll be lucky to find a team's MB anywhere that isn't slating their RT. Hell Jared Gaither may just be the best RT in the nation.




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    Re: Tony Pashos has been one of the best RTs in the NFL this year.

    Jeepers Stockers your color combinations for the players made me feel ill.

    The line is starting to hold its own in the pass,but it can't run block to save its life.Pashos needs to be upgraded ASAP.
    Put the smile back on your face.This is a 60 minute ball game.




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    Re: Tony Pashos has been one of the best RTs in the NFL this year.

    Quote Originally Posted by RavenTD View Post
    Jeepers Stockers your color combinations for the players made me feel ill.

    The line is starting to hold its own in the pass,but it can't run block to save its life.Pashos needs to be upgraded ASAP.
    Just presented it as Neil did over at uknflfan, very basic and stat based but does tell a story of just how bad RTs are all round and how difficult it actually is to find upgrades in truth, anyone who the great athleticism and technique gets converted to LT and will get paid more by those who don't have an LT.




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    Re: Tony Pashos has been one of the best RTs in the NFL this year.

    he'll do until/if we upgrade. conceivably, in a year or two the Ravens will draft the next LT, and maybe JOgd can finish out his career at RT.
    two things. One: He seems to be an upgrade over Orlando Brown.
    Two: He seems to be doing much better, esp fewer penalties, the last few weeks; like much of the offense, his performance seems to be better since BB took the OC job.




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    Re: Tony Pashos has been one of the best RTs in the NFL this year.

    Im pretty sure JO said he would finish his career at LT




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    Re: Tony Pashos has been one of the best RTs in the NFL this year.

    Very good stuff, UK. I would love to know the source on this stuff. I was going to work on some O-Line analysis at some point this year, and I'd love to not have to recreate the wheel if something is out there already.

    Pashos has faced some good Left DE's this season (Burgess, Peppers, Castillo, Vanden Bosch). Peppers had 2 sacks in the game against us, but I am assuming 1 was not assigned to Pashos somehow. The other 3 all got shut out, and we have only 1 other sack that even came from an opposing DE this year.




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    Re: Tony Pashos has been one of the best RTs in the NFL this year.

    Quote Originally Posted by Merlin View Post
    A key stat that's missing is the number of yards / carry or total yards that the team gets in running behind him
    I love Football Outsiders' stats where they try to adjust for game situations and the opposition. They have Baltimore's O-line ranked 18th in rushing and 6th in pass protection.

    They also provide o-line rushing rankings by LT, mid part of the line, and RT. It's some good stuff.

    We finally have some protection after all these years even though a good amount has something to do with McNair's uncanny ability to feel the pocket. I would hate to see the Raven's move on with Pashos when finally they have a good protector.

    Problem though is what to do with the rush. I can't say if it is him solely that the right side of the line is not producing. Vincent has to receive fault as well.

    http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/ol.php




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