Jim Fassel front runner for Skins job?

**RavenTD** · 01-23-2008, 01:53 AM

Well whichever sucker takes that job.Be prepared to have loads of melting ice cream stacked in your HC office when things go wrong.

That what comes of working for a class A git.

**RavenScallywag** · 01-23-2008, 06:04 AM

I wonder if they would make Ryan an Assistant HC? I gotta think the Gregg Williams situation with the Redskins is much like our Rex Ryan situation...if they don't hire him, they need to get rid of him, because he's going to become a lurking cancer in that locker room.

If they don't make Rex Assistant HC, I can't see why he'd go for that if SB/Harbaugh is offering an Assistant HC title. Sure, it's a clean break, but this would represent the better opportunity to get a HC job in the future.

**purplepoe** · 01-23-2008, 06:43 AM

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3208303

"While the coaching search continued, the Redskins solidified their front office structure Tuesday by adding the word "executive" to Cerrato's title, making him the executive vice president of football operations. The team said Cerrato will assume responsibility for all aspects of the team's football organization, including the roster, scouting and salary cap management."

Comcast reported last night that Cerrato and Williams' relationship is "strained".

Looks like Cerrato is winning the power struggle down there.

Sounds good to me.

He's clueless.

PP

**highwater** · 01-23-2008, 06:48 AM

Originally Posted by RavenScallywag

I gotta think the Gregg Williams situation with the Redskins is much like our Rex Ryan situation...if they don't hire him, they need to get rid of him, because he's going to become a lurking cancer in that locker room.

I agree -- in fact, it sounds like the Gregg Williams situation in DC is worse than Rex in Baltimore. I heard earlier this week that the reason they've interviewed Williams four (!) times is that although he's worked for the Skins for four years, Danny-boy doesn't really know him or have a comfort level with him. If they had to interview him four times, it's obvious they don't really want him as HC. I can't imagine him staying there as DC.

On the other hand, although I have said repeatedly that I don't see Rex coming back here, it sounds like Bisciotti would like him back. So maybe that'll happen after all. But Williams returning to the Skins looks like a long shot.

Unless they give the HC job to Fassel, and Fassel talks Williams into coming back.

**Ravens23** · 01-23-2008, 08:15 AM

God help the Redskins if they choose this guy...

Of course, it couldn't happen to a nicer bunch!

**Losac** · 01-23-2008, 09:28 AM

Originally Posted by highwater

Probably because he isn't interested.

Have you heard of the Skins, Falcons, or Dolphins even contacting Billick for an interview when they were doing their searches? I haven't. If you talk to other people around the country, you get the feeling that Billick really isn't thought of too highly outside of Bmore. He's arrogant, and his offense has been lousy for 9 years. He'll milk his free $15 mil, and then most likely get into broadcasting.

Billick as OC under HC Fassel would be hilarious though.

**Ravenswarrior19** · 01-23-2008, 09:36 AM

Originally Posted by Losac

Billick as OC under HC Fassel would be hilarious though.

Especially if he gets fired during the bye week.

**Purpleguy** · 01-23-2008, 09:52 AM

For all of you Billick bashers please name one talented player that he didn't get the most out of?

He did the best with what he was given.

**Greg** · 01-23-2008, 09:57 AM

Billick will get a shot next year. Why would he throw away $5 million of free money to be a HC this year?

Billick has a winning record, a Super Bowl and his is highly thought of around the league by his former players. Compared to some of the retreads that come and go he is head and shoulders above.

**Ravens23** · 01-23-2008, 09:58 AM

He was given Derek Anderson.. didn't make the most out of that talent, did he?

**Purpleguy** · 01-23-2008, 10:05 AM

Originally Posted by Ravens23

He was given Derek Anderson.. didn't make the most out of that talent, did he?

LMAO, could you imagine DA behind our o-line with our receivers? He's a jump ball thrower, and if receivers don't have seperation he'll throw it into triple coverage. Besides he was given Anderson and Ozzie took him away.

**RavenScallywag** · 01-23-2008, 10:05 AM

Billick's name was floated as OC candidate with the 49ers, Rams, Redskins, etc. I think he was turning them down for a 1 year paid vacation. That way he gets rested, gets his duck in line, and is one of the top guys available next year.

We all talk about John Harbaugh not so much being an offensive or defensive genius, but being a great motivator and leader. I think likewise of Billick. As an OC, he stunk. As a leader, he was better than he gets credit for. Yes, the message got stale and all things like that, but I think he still got most of the players to play better than they would've under other coaches. Harbaugh has similar qualities, so I think we'll see something good here.

Billick will get a job somewhere else...could be in college, could be in NFL, but I don't see him never getting a coaching job again.

**festivus** · 01-23-2008, 10:13 AM

Originally Posted by Losac

Have you heard of the Skins, Falcons, or Dolphins even contacting Billick for an interview when they were doing their searches?

No. But why would they? Did anyone contact Cowher heading into this year?

If BB has *any* sense, he will take some time off the grind, and will come back on his terms. By most standards - winning seasons, playoff appearances, SB wins - he was a good coach, and will get attention when he throws his hat into the ring.

Those of you who think 'high flying offense' is an important factor in deciding your next head coach, consider Exhibit A: Bill Belichick, HC for the Cleveland Browns. He turned out ok with his next gig, didn't he?

**AZRAVEN** · 01-23-2008, 10:26 AM

I think BIllick will get another offer when he's ready to come back. Right now, I'm sure he's still licking his wounds from this fiasco. I just hope he's as smart as Belichick was in making adjustments because Belichick was a total asshole in Cleveland and was universally disliked. What Billick needs to take away from this experience is to watch his back, forget about being a "players coach" because it won't help you, don't trust players or management because they will turn on you in a heartbeat.

**RustonRifle** · 01-27-2008, 07:17 AM

Originally Posted by Greg

The guy was putting in minimal effort here as the OC. He shot himself in the foot, the offense was WAY better without him. NOT EVEN CLOSE.

If a coach wasn't doing his job he should have been fired long before.
Fassel ran billicks offense not his own.

Originally Posted by Greg

He went 7-9 with 19 rookies, an NFL record for any team. He had the team in post-season contention with all of those rookies, Chris Redman and Blake at QB and if not for a facemask not called in the C-choke game in week 16 he goes into week 17 needing a win for 9-7 and post-season.

That 7-9 team was much more talented than the local and national media gave them credit for. We had 3 pro bowlers in '02 and 8 in '03 plus made the playoffs. I'm not buying billicks bluster of how bad the roster was after the cap purge. If you do that's fine. There was an infusion of young talent brought in buy Ozzie and the staff and the short turn around after the purge bears that out.

Billick done some good things in Baltimore but I don't think his record is on par with the talent he had through out his tenure. If you do that's O.K.

**Hook** · 01-27-2008, 07:52 AM

For all of you Billick bashers please name one talented player that he didn't get the most out of?

Not that I'm a Billick basher but he clearly didnt get the most out of Priest Holmes. In fact because he didnt get the most out of him they went out and spent a first round pick on Jamal.

**highwater** · 01-27-2008, 10:13 AM

Originally Posted by Hook

Not that I'm a Billick basher but he clearly didnt get the most out of Priest Holmes. In fact because he didnt get the most out of him they went out and spent a first round pick on Jamal.

You're not a Billick basher, but you're saying that the Ravens felt obligated to draft Jamal in the first round because Billick wasn't utilizing Preist Holmes correctly?

Here's a thought -- maybe they drafted Jamal in the first round because they thought he was the best player available. And I'd say that was a good decision.

**Hook** · 01-27-2008, 10:35 AM

You're not a Billick basher, but you're saying that the Ravens felt obligated to draft Jamal in the first round because Billick wasn't utilizing Preist Holmes correctly?

Somebody asked if there was any player who was under billick who he didnt get the most out of. Clearly it was priest. Are you following along with this thread? And Do you know the stats on Priest since he had left Baltimore? Heres a news flash for you the guy was a stud in KC.

Here's a thought -- maybe they drafted Jamal in the first round because they thought he was the best player available. And I'd say that was a good decision.

I'm not saying Jamal wasnt a good pick up. I like Jamal too, but I'm certain you'll tell me I dont. True Priest was let go because of Salary Cap reasons but had they not gone after Jamal and used the services of Holmes We could have gone after a better player in that draft.

**purplepoe** · 01-27-2008, 11:01 AM

Originally Posted by Hook

Somebody asked if there was any player who was under billick who he didnt get the most out of. Clearly it was priest. Are you following along with this thread? And Do you know the stats on Priest since he had left Baltimore? Heres a news flash for you the guy was a stud in KC.

I'm not saying Jamal wasnt a good pick up. I like Jamal too, but I'm certain you'll tell me I dont. True Priest was let go because of Salary Cap reasons but had they not gone after Jamal and used the services of Holmes We could have gone after a better player.

This is ridiculous.

How did Billick not get the most out of Holmes when he was here?

Billick came here in 1999. Holmes missed alot of that season with injuries. When he did play he produced.

Ozzie Newsome went out and spent the 5th overall pick on Jamal and the rest is history. When Jamal was hurt (game 1 of the 2000 season) Holmes carried the load and had a great game.

Jamal Lewis was an absolute freak when he came into this league. No coach would've played Holmes over him.

So let me get this straight. Brian Billick becomes the HC of the Ravens in 99. Holmes is banged up but when healthy is productive. Then the GENERAL MANAGER of the team drafted Jamal Lewis in the 1st round and that's somehow Billick not getting enough out of Holmes?

Had they not gone after Lewis and used the services of Holmes? This is Billick's fault? He had use of Holmes for a half a season and then we drafted Lewis. Am I missing something here?

And I also like how you fail to mention that the Chiefs had the best OL in the league when Holmes signed there. It's no coincidence that Larry Johnson had ridiculous success when he replaced Holmes.

But yea, it's Billick's fault.

If you wanna blame anyone, blame Ozzie Newsome. He drafted Jamal Lewis.

PP

**Hook** · 01-27-2008, 11:20 AM

Ok dont agree but Take it easy Purplepoe, its not that serious.

Priest never played here at the level he had played in KC. Thats a fact. There were flashes of it. But if You want to go on about this whole Ozzie and Billick thing, fine, thats been your game the past few weeks. I'm not getting caught in that. I have no beef with Billick or Ozzie, but Billick didnt get the most out of Priest the way the chiefs did. Thats a fact, stat wise. I'm sure most of you will just write off all the TDs he scored with KC - forget about the yards and receptions.