Could Decosta, Others, Go After Season?

**PurpleRulz** · 12-17-2006, 09:46 PM

It is a good possibility that in addition to losing Rex Ryan to a HC position, and Neuheisel to a college HC job, that we lose Eric Decosta to a GMs job. With jobs opening up potentially in Detroit and maybe even Cleveland, Decosta could become a hot commodity. He has had two stellar drafts in a row. The 2005 draft was good, but man, the 2006 draft is stickening great including the UDFA signings.

Looks like our staff once again will be pillaged after the season as it always is. Oh well, there is a price to pay for sucess.

**PARavensJeff** · 12-17-2006, 10:23 PM

I don't see that DeCosta will be given a GM position, that's not his strong suit. That said, who knows, anything is possible. With success leads to raids of the winning teams FO & coaching ranks. The NFL is a copy league & winning brings this type of thing on.

**phatboy** · 12-17-2006, 10:43 PM

Why can't he be our named GM. Ozzie is a VP. Different thing really. If a title is all he wants give it to him.

**PARavensJeff** · 12-18-2006, 10:23 PM

Yes, SF did want to talk to him, but DeCosta has also saw what has happened to Savage & his troubles in Cleveland. From all accounts I have tead, Savage is not happy in his current position & wants to do more of the scouting side than the management side. There have been rumblings out of Cleveland for a while that they may split the position & have someone take the parts of his job he doesn't want. DeCosta is cut from the same mold, more scouting than GM. I don't think he'll make the same mistake as Savage.

**sailorsam** · 12-19-2006, 05:36 AM

Detroit might change their GM????

**Merlin** · 12-19-2006, 06:41 AM

Phil Savage's experience is a good lesson

Sometimes its not worth being promoted to the prestige job if you like exactly what you're doing

Biscotti should just pay DeCosta more and make up a title if necessary --there are no salary caps on the management side!

**PARavensJeff** · 12-19-2006, 07:39 AM

Detriot has a GM? O yea, that buffoon idiot Matt Millen.

**SykesvilleRavensFan** · 12-19-2006, 09:23 AM

I have personally talked to Eric DeCosta about the possibility of him leaving the Ravens and he assured me that won't happen. He told me the only way he would leave the Ravens is if he was asked to leave. Eric and his wife started their family while in Baltimore and plan to stay here and raise their children.

**Greg** · 12-19-2006, 10:30 AM

Great news, SRF. Thanks.

Why can't he be our named GM. Ozzie is a VP.

Ozzie is the General Manager, he was given that title a few years ago. And though it might not sound like it, GM is the most prestigious title one can hold for an NFL team, outside of owner. General Manager means you manage the whole thing. The team president, if there is one, doesn't outrank a GM.

**ravenwoman** · 12-19-2006, 01:25 PM

Great relief SRF!! I personally think Eric DeCosta is a better draft person than Phil Savage. Also, probably in 10 years or so, Ozzie may retire and the position would be his for the asking.

The Ravens are a first class organization which cannot be duplicated. I bet all of the players and personnel that left us to work for the Browns are less than happy. The Cleveland curse lives on!!

**SykesvilleRavensFan** · 12-19-2006, 03:18 PM

Eric is a wonderful person and a terrific guest speaker. He has attended Ravens Nest 14 meetings every year since he was a regional scout. It has been a pleasure to see him advance his position in the Ravens organization and I can honestly say it couldn't happen to a more deserving person. Eric attends every Ravens Nest 14 May meeting to address the draft choices of the Ravens and to give us the inside scoop on what happened in the war room during the draft each year. If anyone is interested in attending next year, Ravens Nest 14 meets at Meiklejohn's Pub on Liberty Road in Eldersburg, MD on the first Tuesday of each month, starting at 7PM. Eric will be there for the May 2007 meeting.

**PurpleRulz** · 12-20-2006, 02:31 AM

Originally Posted by SykesvilleRavensFan

I have personally talked to Eric DeCosta about the possibility of him leaving the Ravens and he assured me that won't happen. He told me the only way he would leave the Ravens is if he was asked to leave. Eric and his wife started their family while in Baltimore and plan to stay here and raise their children.

This is good news, however things can change especially if he gets an offer of a lifetime. For example, I would not leave the Ravens for a GM job in Detroit, Cleveland, or Arizona. That would be career suicide.

**SykesvilleRavensFan** · 12-20-2006, 12:55 PM

Eric feels that working for the Ravens has been the offer of a lifetime.

**PurpleRulz** · 12-22-2006, 05:25 AM

Bottomline is that you have to put yourselves in these guys shoes. If you have an opportunity at promotion on your job and earning major coin, you are going to take it. Decosta and anyone else in our FO have the goal to be a GM. If they don't then they should be doing something else. Eric may not go anywhere after this season, but with these stellar drafts, within the next three years, Decosta is gone. Our FO is deep and rich with talent. We could also lose Kokinis who was sought after by the Jets last offseason for their GM post.

This could be an offseason where we are raided.

Mughelli could get some major coin with his recent surge of play.
Pashos could get major offers as well as he is a young OT on the upside.
AD is definitely gone.
Rex Ryan will have many HC offers this offseason.

While the media seems to overlook us, the rest of the NFL seems to focus right on us. Every year that we have good seasons and drafts, other organizations lineup to raid us of our talent. These organizations are watching us. The Ravens, Steelers, and Patroits are the best ran Organizations in the NFL, but I think we have the deepest pool of FO talent in the NFL.

**highwater** · 12-22-2006, 07:37 AM

Rex Ryan will have many HC offers this offseason.

I keep hearing this, but realistically, how many HC openings do you think there are going to be in the NFL this offseason? It's not going to be like last year, when seven or eight teams had openings. A lot of teams having terrible seasons are teams with a HC in his first year, so they aren't likely to dump them right away. Arizona and Atlanta might be looking for a new coach, but beyond that, I don't think there will be that many vacancies. I think Rex will still be here next year.

AD, on the other hand . . . that's one to worry about.

**OldBay** · 12-22-2006, 07:59 AM

How about the RAIDERS... that would be interesting considering his Rob Ryan is the DC out there.

Hypothetically - even though Rob has put together a good D in Oakland, do you think Mr. Burns would consider hiring Rex over promoting Rob?

**PurpleRulz** · 12-22-2006, 08:37 AM

Originally Posted by highwater

I keep hearing this, but realistically, how many HC openings do you think there are going to be in the NFL this offseason? It's not going to be like last year, when seven or eight teams had openings. A lot of teams having terrible seasons are teams with a HC in his first year, so they aren't likely to dump them right away. Arizona and Atlanta might be looking for a new coach, but beyond that, I don't think there will be that many vacancies. I think Rex will still be here next year.

AD, on the other hand . . . that's one to worry about.

AD is gone. I am enjoying him in his final run as a Raven. He should get his money and will be more expensive than we can afford. Plus, Suggs is a UFA after 2007 and you keep Suggs over AD everyday of the week.

As for HC jobs that could come available for Rex Ryan:

1. Cleveland
2. Pittsburgh
3. Oakland. (Art Shell won't be back).
4. Arizona
5. NY Giants
6. Buffalo

GM jobs that could come available for Decosta:

1. Cleveland (Seeing that "The Brain" Savage has fallen on his face in Cleveland, you see that OZZIE made Savage and not the other way around).

2. Detroit (Looks like Millen is finally out)

3. Washington (They are a threat to raid our FO).

4. Atlanta

**highwater** · 12-22-2006, 11:53 AM

As for HC jobs that could come available for Rex Ryan:

1. Cleveland
2. Pittsburgh
3. Oakland. (Art Shell won't be back).
4. Arizona
5. NY Giants
6. Buffalo

Buffalo? Why? They are doing much better than anyone expected, so there will be no opening there. I totally disagree with you on that one.

Pittsburgh and Oakland are interesting -- there have been rumors all year long that Chin might take a walk, but they're just rumors so far. The Raiders are a total mess, but I'm betting that Shell keeps his job. I'm not saying he should keep it, but I think he will.

The Giants could be a possibility, but it depends on what happens in the next two weeks. They could actually still make the playoffs. I think the Browns will probably give Crenell one more year.

I'm surprised you don't have the Falcons on your list. Don't you think Mora is out if they don't make the playoffs (he might be out even if they do make the playoffs).

**PurpleRulz** · 12-22-2006, 12:24 PM

Originally Posted by highwater

Buffalo? Why? They are doing much better than anyone expected, so there will be no opening there. I totally disagree with you on that one.

Pittsburgh and Oakland are interesting -- there have been rumors all year long that Chin might take a walk, but they're just rumors so far. The Raiders are a total mess, but I'm betting that Shell keeps his job. I'm not saying he should keep it, but I think he will.

The Giants could be a possibility, but it depends on what happens in the next two weeks. They could actually still make the playoffs. I think the Browns will probably give Crenell one more year.

I'm surprised you don't have the Falcons on your list. Don't you think Mora is out if they don't make the playoffs (he might be out even if they do make the playoffs).

You are right, and I was thinking Falcons. You are right that the Buffalo job may be secure for now.