Game Thread - Week 1 - Ravens vs Cincy

**StingerNLG** · 09-07-2008, 12:30 PM

Originally Posted by TRAP

Stinger,

Well why don't you get out your stop watch and time it yourself.

Joe's been holding too long all summer.

I don't need a stopwatch. I'm watching him right now.

That pass to Clayton seemed quick enough to me.

**4G63** · 09-07-2008, 12:31 PM

What an awesome play...never would have seen that under Billick!!!!

**RavenDavey** · 09-07-2008, 12:32 PM

Originally Posted by RavensInBrazil

We're running a no-huddle offense?

i think it give Joe a "comfort zone" as he runs the O. Bring it on!!

**Beerracuda** · 09-07-2008, 12:33 PM

And Flacco with an important block on that play!!!

7-0 Ravens!!! WOOOHOOOOO!!!

If Billick calls that play, it's a loss of 8 yards.

**StingerNLG** · 09-07-2008, 12:34 PM

Holy SHIT!!!!!!!!!!

The double reverse!!!!! Are you kidding me????

The flip-hand-off was like a Harlem Globetrotters move!!!!

WOW!!!!!!!!!!

Fucking gorgeous!!!!

**highwater** · 09-07-2008, 12:34 PM

WOW! That was awesome!!! Gutsy play call and a great run by Clayton!

**4G63** · 09-07-2008, 12:37 PM

Originally Posted by StingerNLG

Holy SHIT!!!!!!!!!!

The double reverse!!!!! Are you kidding me????

The flip-hand-off was like a Harlem Globetrotters move!!!!

WOW!!!!!!!!!!

Fucking gorgeous!!!!

Its not a "double" reverse. It was a regular reverse. A double reverse is when it goes -> <- ->

**4G63** · 09-07-2008, 12:39 PM

Why does everyone think thats a double reverse? 3 guys have to touch the ball BESIDES the QB in order to be a double reverse!!!

**StingerNLG** · 09-07-2008, 12:42 PM

Originally Posted by 4G63

Its not a "double" reverse. It was a regular reverse. A double reverse is when it goes -> <- ->

Wait what?? That's exactly what it did. Looked to me like Flacco gave to someone, and he flipped it to Clayton the other way.

Sounds like a double reverse to me. I'll have to wait to get home to see it again.

**4G63** · 09-07-2008, 12:42 PM

Originally Posted by TRAP

Stan and John are calling it a double reverse and that particular style is a new one in the league.

As I posted above, STan said Joe's great fake on the first reverse is what sold the 2d reverse and the blockers have to do their job.

The Ravens are winning it on the line right now.

The guys running past the QB (fake handoff) don't matter. Its how many guys touch the ball after the QB hands it off. On that play, 2 guys only touched the ball, hence the standard reverse.

The talking heads have it wrong, as they usually do!!!

**4G63** · 09-07-2008, 12:45 PM

Originally Posted by StingerNLG

Wait what?? That's exactly what it did. Looked to me like Flacco gave to someone, and he flipped it to Clayton the other way.

Sounds like a double reverse to me. I'll have to wait to get home to see it again.

Think about what you just typed! Thats the definition of a reverse. Start one way then hand it off/flick the ball and go the other. To be a double reverse, Clayton would have had to hand it to another player!

**RavensInBrazil** · 09-07-2008, 12:47 PM

If it was just one receiver running, it would have been an end-around. Two receivers makes it a reverse. If just one receiver touching the ball made a reverse, what direction would he be reversing from?

**jonboy79** · 09-07-2008, 12:49 PM

Whatever it was, Billick wouldn't have called it.
I'm pretty sure it was a standard reverse though. Mason went one way, Clayton the other.

**4G63** · 09-07-2008, 12:52 PM

Well Brady went down in the NE/KC game.....Patriots are DONE!!!

**4G63** · 09-07-2008, 12:54 PM

Originally Posted by TRAP

It looked like a double to me.

I'm going with the radio guys, not you.

Well, you heard it here first, and I'm saying YOU and the IDIOTS on TV have it wrong, as usual!!!

Heres the definition from Wiki: A classic reverse typically begins as a bootleg, sweep or end-around, but before the ball-carrier crosses the line of scrimmage he hands the ball off to a teammate, usually a wide receiver, running in the reverse (opposite) direction. Because many of the defensive players will have gravitated in the direction of the original rusher, if the second ball-carrier can outrun the defenders to the other side of the field, he has a very good chance to make a big gain.

A variation of this play is a double reverse, in which the second ball-carrier takes the ball all or part way back across the field before he too hands off to a teammate running in the opposite direction. This causes the flow of the play to "reverse" a second time. A double reverse adds another level of surprise to the defense; however, the play takes more time and space to develop and increases the risk of a big loss or a fumbled handoff.

**4G63** · 09-07-2008, 12:55 PM

Originally Posted by RavensInBrazil

If it was just one receiver running, it would have been an end-around. Two receivers makes it a reverse. If just one receiver touching the ball made a reverse, what direction would he be reversing from?

Originally Posted by jonboy79

Whatever it was, Billick wouldn't have called it.
I'm pretty sure it was a standard reverse though. Mason went one way, Clayton the other.

Thank You! Now back on topic: Flacco missed a TD....

**Lee Van Cleef** · 09-07-2008, 12:55 PM

From what I've seen Terry isn't looking too bad. I assume he's playing RT.

Close there from Flacco. It's a shame he didn't get more time with the starters to more chemistry developed. But still...