Is Ogden Out This Sunday?

**PurpleRulz** · 12-21-2006, 02:03 AM

I have seen posts on other boards with a link from (rotoworld?) that states that Jon Ogden is out this Sunday and Adam Terry is starting. Anyone else have this information, because accoing to AW, Ogden is listed as questionable for Sunday.

**sailorsam** · 12-21-2006, 06:01 AM

I saw a report that said that a rookie would start at the Squealer's LG and BB supposedly said 'we'll prbably have a rookie start for us too', but the latest info I see lists him as still 'questionable'.
if we can't take one of the top two seeds, it will be pretty tempting to rest a lot of (older) guys next week against the Bills. Difference between 3 and 4 seed is the difference between who hosts the wc teams, and we don't even know who they'll be yet.
worst case scenario, Ravens lose the top seeds AND guys get hurt.

**F Angelos** · 12-21-2006, 08:17 AM

Sun Paper: Ogden and Heap don't practice and are listed as questionable. The key day is always Friday. If neither practices on Friday they won't play Sun. I expect both will play but will they make it through the whole game?

**RavenScallywag** · 12-21-2006, 08:24 AM

i think we'll definitley be looking to pull any players we can if we get a good lead.

That said, I sure hope Ogden is ready to go. We need him more than ever for this game, at least to start with.

**crazyraven** · 12-21-2006, 08:28 AM

Rest those guys. We need them later on.

**flraven** · 12-21-2006, 09:10 AM

If you rest some of the starters, then you run risk of them getting a little rusty. We need momentum heading into the playoffs. That being said, yes, we don't want to risk injury to our starters.

I'm hoping the Ravens jump out to a good lead so the backups can play. That's probably the best we can hope for.

**21xxxv** · 12-21-2006, 06:27 PM

The Ultimate Raven win would be to beat the Steelers in Pittsburgh with Kyle at QB and Terry at LT.

Realisticly. The Steelers are playing for redemption and pride and have won most of their home games. If New england loses to Jacksonville which has a 6-1 record at home, I say lets get healthy.

In the past, I never thought the Ravens would win in Pittsburgh. Then, I started to look at the QB's who have lost there recently.

L-2005-AW Halloween night.
L-2004-KB
L-2003-KB (KB's NFL Debut)
L-2002-JB (Hugging Cowher after Throwing INT in Endzone to lose game)
L-2001-EG (Playoffs) Billick refused to go to Cunningham in a tight game
W-2001-RC (Regular Season) first Steeler loss at Heinz
W-2000-TB (16-0) Home Opener on Labor Day @ Three Rivers. Not a bad year
W-1999-TB (Big Game for Qadry)

**PurpleRulz** · 12-22-2006, 05:29 AM

I am not worried about Adam Terry starting at LT. That is his natural position and he did very well in his appearances. Terry should start this week and next week. With Jason Brown over there with him, Terry will be fine. We could also add a TE (Q-Syp) to help block Joey Porter.

**highwater** · 12-22-2006, 07:23 AM

If there is any risk at all of Ogden aggravating this injury, then they should sit him against the Steelers. Terry is a more than adequate replacement. In fact, it would be nice to see him get some playing time.

**purplepoe** · 12-22-2006, 07:32 AM

Originally Posted by highwater

If there is any risk at all of Ogden aggravating this injury, then they should sit him against the Steelers. Terry is a more than adequate replacement. In fact, it would be nice to see him get some playing time.

That is what Im worried about.

Ogden trying to go and really hurting his toe. We absolutely cannot afford to lose him for any extended time.

Im not sure how some of you guys think Terry can fill in so easily. He hasn't proven much to me.

But I think I'd like to see him in there instead of JO this week.

PP

**PurpleRulz** · 12-22-2006, 08:33 AM

Originally Posted by purplepoe

That is what Im worried about.

Ogden trying to go and really hurting his toe. We absolutely cannot afford to lose him for any extended time.

Im not sure how some of you guys think Terry can fill in so easily. He hasn't proven much to me.

But I think I'd like to see him in there instead of JO this week.

PP

Terry has not had much chance to show anything, because he is playing behind JO. Adam Terry is NOT a RT and has looked horrible there, but at LT, Adam Terry has been adequate; not great, but adequate. I'll take adequate for two weeks, because that is ten notches above Ethan Brooks.

**Big Biff** · 12-22-2006, 08:59 AM

Question...
If JO is out this weekend, would you then sit McNair? Let's face it, without Odgen, the QB is MUCH more vulnerable. Should we risk McNair or let Boller get some more snaps, and save/protect/rest McNair? He'd have 2 weeks rest going into the last game of the season.

**highwater** · 12-22-2006, 11:40 AM

Im not sure how some of you guys think Terry can fill in so easily. He hasn't proven much to me.

Well, of course not, because he hasn't played much. And I'm not suggesting for a second that he is as good as Ogden of course, but I think he's going to be good enough at LT to fill in for a game or two. They thought highly enough of him to draft him in the second round, and I think they actually traded up for him, if I'm not mistaken, so I'm going to feel confident until he sucks. In his rookie season he didn't do so great at times, but they were playing him at RT most of the time, which is not where he excels. I think at LT he'll be fine.

And, like you, I'd prefer Ogden to sit this one out. We need him healthy for the games that really count.

**purplepoe** · 12-22-2006, 12:19 PM

Im starting to get a bad feeling about this toe injury.

He's now downgraded to doubtful which I like.

I just hope one week off will give it enough time to heal.

PP

**PurpleRulz** · 12-22-2006, 12:22 PM

Originally Posted by Big Biff

Question...
If JO is out this weekend, would you then sit McNair? Let's face it, without Odgen, the QB is MUCH more vulnerable. Should we risk McNair or let Boller get some more snaps, and save/protect/rest McNair? He'd have 2 weeks rest going into the last game of the season.

If Ogden is sitting (and he is) you definitely don't want Boller in there unless the game is out of hand. Boller would be panic city.

That said, I would start Boller regardless against the Bills to rest McNair and to see Boller against a team that has game planned for him.

**Big Biff** · 12-22-2006, 01:02 PM

What is turf toe?
Turf toe is a condition of pain at the base of the big toe, located at the ball of the foot. The condition is usually caused from either jamming the toe, or pushing off repeatedly when running or jumping. The most common complaint is pain at the base of the toe, but you may also have symptoms of stiffness and swelling.
The name turf toe comes from the fact that this injury is especially common among athletes who play on artificial turf. The hard surface of artificial turf, combined with running and jumping in football and soccer, make turf toe a frequent consequence of Astroturf play.

What happens to the toe in turf toe?
When a player sustains a turf toe injury they are actually tearing the capsule that surrounds the joint at the base of the toe.

Tearing this joint capsule can be extremely painful. Furthermore, tear of the joint capsule can lead to instability and even dislocation of the joint at the base of the toe. This may lead to accelerated cartilage wear and arthritis of the big toe (hallux rigidus).
What is the treatment of turf toe?
The diagnosis of turf toe is not difficult, but X-rays may be taken to ensure there is no fracture. Treatment of turf toe consists of resting the sore toe, icing the area, and elevating the foot; anti-inflammatory medications may be recommended by your doctor. Athletes diagnosed with turf toe should avoid their sport for about three weeks to allow the joint capsule to heal. Once returning to activities, special inserts can be used to limit the motion of the big toe and prevent further damage to the joint capsule.

Unfortunately, turf toe can return, and rehabilitation may be slow. Surgery is rarely needed for treatment of turf toe, but in certain cases it may be helpful. If a bone spur forms, and severely limits motion of the toe joint, surgery to remove the spur may be helpful.