The Suggs penalty

**Ravenator** · 10-06-2008, 12:16 PM

I guess what bothers me most is that the head official is right by the QB. If it was a false start I think Collins would have heard the whistle from him and why cant that official jump in front of collins to protect him from an unnecessary hit?

Just wondering, Did anyone actually see them throw the flag for a false start and did the announcer's mention the false start as the play was developing on TV?

**Ravenswarrior19** · 10-06-2008, 12:21 PM

If you watch the replay, you can see the official on the line of scrimmage (bottom of the t.v. screen) running in to stop the play. I don't know if he's actually blowing the whistle, cuz you definately can't hear it.

**ravens138** · 10-06-2008, 12:24 PM

Suggs has a reason to be pissed off. The refs just don't seem to get any better.

**Sports Steve** · 10-06-2008, 12:32 PM

Originally Posted by RavensInBrazil

That was a very weird call. This doesn't seem right to me at all

There have been a lot of strange calls this season.

**ravensnhokies** · 10-06-2008, 12:45 PM

What about consistency within a game.... On our TD drive, Haynesworth encroached and tackled Flacco. No PF call.

**Ravenator** · 10-06-2008, 12:49 PM

I think thats what everyone is getting to. The game was not called consistently. If your going to F-Up once...F-Up the rest of the game.....oh wait they did.

**PARavensJeff** · 10-06-2008, 01:51 PM

I think I saw Houston Ravens take & agree. The PF did not lose the game. If the refs don't call the PF, just the False Start, it is now 3rd & 15. If we are an elite D, then we should have stopped them whether it was 3rd & 15 from the 15 or 1st & 10 from the 35. We allowed them 2 long drives. The 1st 1 was the 81 yard drive from their 11 yard line that resulted in the FG, then the 80 yard drive for the TD. The game was dominated by the Ravens except for those 2 drives & that is why we lost the game. The penalty was bogus but that's not why we lost the game. Yes, 13 points allowed should be enough to win a game, but we were playing against a D just as good.

We need to move on & get ready for the Colts

**bmorebirds_24** · 10-06-2008, 02:09 PM

i havent taken the time to read everyones post but i am gonna say my opinion and ask a question......does it make sense that the referee said they "tried to stop the play"but the players didnt hear the whistle????

thats total bullshit!!!!!!!!!!

if they are gonna throw flags for bullshit hits like suggs trying to knock down a pass,then they better start flagging ray for laying hits on a offensive player every week.

anybody have this referee's email address.....

(just so everyone knows I AM KIDDING BOUT HIS EMAIL ADDRESS)

DONT WANT THE POLICE KNOCKING AT THE DOOR

**Smoke** · 10-06-2008, 02:35 PM

If there is a illegal procedure penalty against the offense, the refs no only should blow their whistles but be motioning time is out play dead. Did anyone see this happen? Just a bad call all around. Didn't help us win a game, but defense has to come up big! They only played 57 minutes in that game.

**festivus** · 10-06-2008, 06:42 PM

Originally Posted by PARavensJeff

I think I saw Houston Ravens take & agree. The PF did not lose the game. If the refs don't call the PF, just the False Start, it is now 3rd & 15. If we are an elite D, then we should have stopped them whether it was 3rd & 15 from the 15 or 1st & 10 from the 35. We allowed them 2 long drives. The 1st 1 was the 81 yard drive from their 11 yard line that resulted in the FG, then the 80 yard drive for the TD. The game was dominated by the Ravens except for those 2 drives & that is why we lost the game. The penalty was bogus but that's not why we lost the game. Yes, 13 points allowed should be enough to win a game, but we were playing against a D just as good.

We need to move on & get ready for the Colts

This thread was an academic question about the rules. Those of us who want to gripe about officiating can do so here, and if we want to talk about something else we can do that in another thread. Those of you jumping in to tell us to stop looking backward, or that the players also let us down, are barking up the wrong tree.

**bmorebirds_24** · 10-06-2008, 07:15 PM

Originally Posted by Raven Nurse

Anybody remember the phantom call on Heap last year against Cinci that cost us the game? SCREWED AGAIN!!!

i sure do.you talking about about in the endzone at the end of the game???

**purplepoe** · 10-06-2008, 09:32 PM

If you want to see really bad officiating, turn on ESPN and watch what Hoculi's crew is doing to the Saints.

It's embarrassing.

PP

**HoustonRaven** · 10-07-2008, 06:47 AM

PP, I am kinda scratching my head at that one.

Other then the missed face mask, what was wrong?

I dont mind ref's missing calls every now and then. That's expected.

It's when they see the play outright and blow it is when its embarrassing.

**purplepoe** · 10-07-2008, 10:36 AM

Originally Posted by HoustonRaven

PP, I am kinda scratching my head at that one.

Other then the missed face mask, what was wrong?

I dont mind ref's missing calls every now and then. That's expected.

It's when they see the play outright and blow it is when its embarrassing.

The obvious incomplete that was ruled complete in which NO had to burn a challenge.

Then they ruled (after about 10 seconds) that Peterson didn't fumble a ball in which NO recovered and was in the midst of running back deep into Minny territory. It was reviewed (was a fumble) yet ruled a non fumble.

Terrible.

PP

**RAVENOUS52** · 10-07-2008, 11:48 AM

Bad calls that change the MOMENTUM of a game are an abomination that, unfortunately, will never fully disappear.

Let's deal with it and get ready to cheer for our team in Indy.

**bmoreravengirl** · 10-07-2008, 12:56 PM

Originally Posted by Raven Nurse

Anybody remember the phantom call on Heap last year against Cinci that cost us the game? SCREWED AGAIN!!!

Do I? STILL ticked about that, and the Cleveland game in Baltimore.

Why is it that we should have to game-plan for the opposing team AND the refs?

UNACCEPTABLE!!

**RavenDavey** · 10-07-2008, 03:29 PM

Originally Posted by Ravenswarrior19

If you watch the replay, you can see the official on the line of scrimmage (bottom of the t.v. screen) running in to stop the play. I don't know if he's actually blowing the whistle, cuz you definately can't hear it.

but watch it again and see how long it takes him to get on the field from the side. He needed to make the call in a split second, but in the amount of time he took to decide it was a false start, Suggs gets the BS call!!

He wouldn't make it in a game show if he held the buzzer!! Although he may be a Jeopardy answer one day...

Alex, I'll have "Blown Calls" for $1000.00 please....