The Steelers new Coach is..(drumroll please)

**PurpleRulz** · 01-23-2007, 05:28 PM

Originally Posted by LBoogy

Cop out? Huh?

Arguing with you is like talking to a brick wall.

And I completely understand your sentiments, PR. Having a racially diverse society is a good thing. But, it's something that should be left alone.

As Losac said, I don't think about Dungy or Smith being black; not until the media shoves it in your face every chance they get. To me it's irrelevant, immature, petty, and ignorant to bring up such a thing.

No one is REALLY interested in "diversity" if they are completely indulged in their own self-interest, because that's what is going on here.

You are so caught up in being racially diverse, yet you say it feels pretty damn good that two black coaches are going to the SB. What the fuck does that mean? It sounds like your definition of diversity is pander to the black man.

I'll say it again--and I don't know HOW this can be seen as a cop out--people are people. The day you stop referencing race, diversity, whatever, is the day that racial divides will cease to exist.

And to respond to your alluding to the idea that we use race to point out crime statistics, etc. People are a product of their environments, not their skin color.

Save for the part where you said "people are a product of their environments and not their skin," you're wrong. The day that people learn to respect each other's differences will be when racial divides end and I'll leave this discussion on that note as this discussion has reached abused dead horse stage.

**PurpleRulz** · 01-23-2007, 05:53 PM

Let's totally shift this discussion.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2740378 According to this link, the Steelgirls will lose another assistant; Russ Grimm. The Steelers will now have to learn a whole new system after 14 years of much the same system. This could cause a temporary setback in that organization.

I think we can all agree here that we hate the black and gold, and anything that could hold them down is a potential positive for us.

**bassgtrst** · 01-23-2007, 06:11 PM

I did read somewhere that they are in fact retaining their DC.

Im going to wait until after the draft (I would add FA but we know Pittsburgh doesnt participate) unil I write off the Toothless Ones.

**darb72** · 01-23-2007, 06:24 PM

That sucks. I was going to join in the argument but it's already over.

Pooh.

**Losac** · 01-25-2007, 02:23 PM

PurpleRulz should read this article:

There's a lot of talk about hoping for a day when black coaches in the Super Bowl won't be a big deal, when we won't find it necessary to refer to a coach as a "black coach" (or any person by their race, for that matter).

What's wrong with that day being today? Dungy and Smith have made history, and we happily acknowledge it. As for our practice of categorizing NFL head coaches, let's make that history, too.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/playof...ael&id=2740318

**festivus** · 01-25-2007, 02:44 PM

Originally Posted by Losac

PurpleRulz should read this article:

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/playof...ael&id=2740318

The biggest revelation I noticed in an otherwise interesting piece:
"Even though we live in Baltimore, we want you to win and get to the Super Bowl.'"

Where *are* those people? Go away!!

**Losac** · 01-25-2007, 02:47 PM

Originally Posted by festivus

The biggest revelation I noticed in an otherwise interesting piece:
"Even though we live in Baltimore, we want you to win and get to the Super Bowl.'"

Where *are* those people? Go away!!

I was thinking the same thing. Obviously it was implying that the people who said that were black folks who were rooting for the Colts so a black coach could get to the Super Bowl. Despicable. Makes me sick that people think race first instead of identifying with their home team and city.

**PurpleRulz** · 01-25-2007, 02:54 PM

Originally Posted by Losac

I was thinking the same thing. Obviously it was implying that the people who said that were black folks who were rooting for the Colts so a black coach could get to the Super Bowl. Despicable. Makes me sick that people think race first instead of identifying with their home team and city.

You are still on this? Seeing positive things happen for African Americans must really bug you. You can think what you want, but most African Americans (we are not "black folk", that term in and of itself is racist) will celebrate the significance of having two African American head coaches in the Super Bowl regardless of what others do.

Period. End of discussion. Now, move on.

**Losac** · 01-25-2007, 03:07 PM

Originally Posted by PurpleRulz

You are still on this? Seeing positive things happen for African Americans must really bug you. You can think what you want, but African Americans (we are not "black folk", that term in and of itself is racist) will celebrate the significance of having two African American head coaches in the Super Bowl regardless of what others do. There is nothing you can do to stop that.

Period. End of discussion. Now, move on.

No, I found the article on ESPN.com, and it reminded me of this thread, so I posted it. Did you even read it? I notice you have no take on it at all other than to reiterate your same opinion for the 1000th time.

**PurpleRulz** · 01-25-2007, 03:16 PM

Originally Posted by Losac

No, I found the article on ESPN.com, and it reminded me of this thread, so I posted it. Did you even read it? I notice you have no take on it at all other than to reiterate your same opinion for the 1000th time.

I am done talking about this with you, because you obviously have alot of hostility when it comes to the subject of race as well as a underline hostility towards anything positive relating to minorities. Nothing further to discuss. You have a blessed day.

**Losac** · 01-25-2007, 03:28 PM

Way to dodge the issue. You have nothing to say other than calling people out for having "hostility" and branding them racist just because the first thing they think of when looking at the Super Bowl XLI matchup is not the race of the two head coaches. Read the article.

**PurpleRulz** · 01-25-2007, 08:55 PM

Originally Posted by Losac

Way to dodge the issue. You have nothing to say other than calling people out for having "hostility" and branding them racist just because the first thing they think of when looking at the Super Bowl XLI matchup is not the race of the two head coaches. Read the article.

You are what you are: hostile and bitter.

**darb72** · 01-26-2007, 12:06 AM

Originally Posted by PurpleRulz

You are still on this? Seeing positive things happen for African Americans must really bug you. You can think what you want, but most African Americans (we are not "black folk", that term in and of itself is racist) will celebrate the significance of having two African American head coaches in the Super Bowl regardless of what others do.

Period. End of discussion. Now, move on.

African Americans (we are not "black folk", that term in and of itself is racist)

So when you said "whites" at least twice in this thread, were you being a racist?

**LBoogy** · 01-26-2007, 12:21 AM

No, Darb, he doesn't see it that way. You know why? Because he's utterly incapable of engaging in an argument without reverting back to the same nonsensical opinion, all while branding the person as hostile and racist. So, obviously, double-standards and hypocrisy won't stop him.

And why is it "African-American" anyway? Do you heavily identify with African culture? Were you born there? Does that make me Italian-American? If we're white, why aren't you black? Or is that "racist"? Unbelievable.

So, since because most of us white folk are racist and hostile, I urge you, PR, to read up on Thomas Sowell. Do yourself a favor. This man just may open your eyes.

The problem is that many of us have absolutely no problem with race. THAT is the issue here. But, people like PR think that blacks NEED special attention. If you're not willing to give it to them/him, you're obviously a hate-filed racist.

I'm so done with this thread and topic in general. Some people just don't want engage in a LOGICAL argument.

EDIT: That's a great article by Michael Smith. He hit the nail right on the head.

Although, I'd have to say what those black bus drivers were saying is pretty unconscionable on a number of different fronts.

**sailorsam** · 01-26-2007, 04:54 AM

can't help the Squealers to lose their HC and two of their best assistants; Wisenhut was the OC. I think he and Grimm are INSANE to jump Pigsburgh and work for Bidwell. Look at all the guys like Tobin and now Denny Green that coach the Cards; this is a graveyard for coaches. I'm guessing Wisenhut found he wasn't getting the PS job so took the next available, and Grimm found same and jumped ship, either from spite, fear of a new coach cleaning house, to be with KW, or just for the $. the Squealers have a rep for lowballing their staff.
either way; here's hoping for a long, difficult and unsuccesful transition for the new Squealers staff (regardless of their color[s]).
the other big question up there; will Roths ever be 100% again? he had some good games late 2006 (not against US, hee hee hee).