Game Thread - Playoffs-Round Two

**RavenScallywag** · 01-16-2010, 10:27 PM

Originally Posted by UKRavenGordon

I've screamed at Walker all year - minus the past two games.

I've defended Frank Walker all year. He fills a specific role for us. But let's face it, he's not a fast enough guy to cover decent speed WRs...so he HAS to resort to questionable coverage. We need to replace him with a physical WR who CAN run with those WRs. Then we won't need arm bars or shoving to slow them down to Walker's speed.

**StingerNLG** · 01-16-2010, 10:28 PM

Originally Posted by RavenScallywag

I can be ok with a WR corps of Clayton, DWil, Kelley Washington, drafted WR, Marcus Smith, and Harper/Riley.

Not me. That is basically what we have now without Mason's catches.

That said, I'd still love to get Marshall for a 1st.

Marshall, Dwayne Bowe, Vincent Jackson. Anyone at this point.

**BlackSunday** · 01-16-2010, 10:30 PM

Originally Posted by RavenScallywag

If we can get ONE DECENT WR in the draft...I can be ok with a WR corps of Clayton, DWil, Kelley Washington, drafted WR, Marcus Smith, and Harper/Riley. We could really benefit from a #1 WR, but we've had good success without one before. Kelley was a hell of a WR this year, and DWil continues to show flashes without the consistency.

That said, I'd still love to get Marshall for a 1st.

I'd be OK with it too. I just wanna know which painkiller I should choose to which to become addicted. Factors include:

Cost.
Risk
Cost/probability of success for rehab

Am I missing any others?

Thanks,

BS

**RavenScallywag** · 01-16-2010, 10:31 PM

Originally Posted by StingerNLG

Not me. That is basically what we have now without Mason's catches.

Marshall, Dwayne Bowe, Vincent Jackson. Anyone at this point.

A lot of that has been playcalling though. How often is Kelley Washington and DWil on the field? Just on 3rd downs...I think we suffer a big hit with Mason gone, but we also need to develop a young guy with Flacco. And let's face it, trading for a Marshall, Bowe, Jackson, whoever is not going to be easy, and that's not even considering the contract they'd command shortly after coming here.

Not EVERY player trade works out the same way they played before. Just look at Cutler going from Denver to Chicago. Imagine we trade for Marshall, who turns into a slightly better version of Mark Clayton here. We're now out a first for a bust WR.

**StingerNLG** · 01-16-2010, 10:33 PM

Originally Posted by RavenScallywag

A lot of that has been playcalling though. How often is Kelley Washington and DWil on the field? Just on 3rd downs...I think we suffer a big hit with Mason gone, but we also need to develop a young guy with Flacco. And let's face it, trading for a Marshall, Bowe, Jackson, whoever is not going to be easy, and that's not even considering the contract they'd command shortly after coming here.

Not EVERY player trade works out the same way they played before. Just look at Cutler going from Denver to Chicago. Imagine we trade for Marshall, who turns into a slightly better version of Mark Clayton here. We're now out a first for a bust WR.

I know. But maybe part of that playcalling is just a lack of confidence in the receivers on the field. It's hard to have that confidence when Mark Clayton has a total of 35 catches for the year, and when D-Will drops a couple key passes.

I just don't know how we can lose Mason and get better with the receivers we have.

**baltimore_hokie** · 01-16-2010, 10:34 PM

Originally Posted by BlackSunday

I'd be OK with it too. I just wanna know which painkiller I should choose to which to become addicted. Factors include:

Cost.
Risk
Cost/probability of success for rehab

Am I missing any others?

Thanks,

BS

Accessibility/ease of acquisition?

Effects when consumed with mass amounts of alcohol?

Ease of overdose(in case Clayton is still on the field next year)?

**NC Raven** · 01-16-2010, 10:37 PM

Originally Posted by BlackSunday

I'd be OK with it too. I just wanna know which painkiller I should choose to which to become addicted. Factors include:

Cost.
Risk
Cost/probability of success for rehab

Am I missing any others?

Thanks,

BS

Ability to erase memories of painful playoff defeat.
Ability to help withstand bursts of anger at WRs never being open.

**myfavoriteboxer** · 01-16-2010, 10:43 PM

Originally Posted by UKRavenGordon

Just got a text from UKRaven Stockers reminding me the last Raven to score a TD against Indy....

Troy Smith..... Yep.

Amazing stat. Last TD against them was in Dec 2007, 4 games ago. What the hell. Maybe the citywide Irsay freakout every time we play this team turns us into the Detroit Lions, or something. I really have no logical explanation for this.

**NC Raven** · 01-16-2010, 10:44 PM

We basically overhauled the entire CB unit over the past 2 years. Foxworth, Carr, Webb, Washington. We can do the same at WR.

I'm always leery of WRs of course, because it is the damn hardest position to fill in the NFL. But its time to put some MAJOR effort into upgrading there. There is no reason why a team like the Colts should keep adding guys like Collie and we add nobody. You look at the Saints and its weapons everywhere. Vikings too. Eagles, the same. The Ravens can't have a 34 year old possession receiver being their main downfield threat next year and hope to make an impact in the postseason. It won't work. They can still feature the power run game - and should. Usually that's a great tandem with our D.

But there are just some games, some situations, where you need more firepower to win. And when we need it, the Minnesota game notwithstanding, it's almost never there to be had. This was like watching the worst depths of the Cavanaugh years on offense.