Ravens close to trading for McGahee

**jonboy79** · 03-07-2007, 12:14 PM

Originally Posted by ClericBlackDave

Ogden retiring would free up even more cap space, if I recall correctly.

As well as put a 3-4 win sized hole at RT... with Pashos gone we need Ogden more then ever.

**ExiledRaven** · 03-07-2007, 12:42 PM

I'm not totally sold on it being a 3-4 win hole.

A 1st round tackle, probably Arron Sears could work out wonderfully....but I am in no way suggesting that JO retiring is a good thing this year.

**B-more Ravor** · 03-07-2007, 12:43 PM

Originally Posted by TL24x7

As for the cap hit, here's how it works....

If the Ravens use their exemption, they can spread Mulitalo's cap hit over 2 years. That cap hit is the unamortized bonus money which equates to $2.551M or $1.276M per year for the next two seasons.

If Mulitalo remained on the roster, his cap figure would have been $2.85M.

Therefore if the Ravens use the exemption, the cap savings in '07 will be $1.575M by our estimation. If the Ravens don't use the exemption, the figure is $299K.

Tony - that's not exactly how it works. If they use the exemption, this year's pro-rata share of bonus money still counts - $850K - and they are relieved of his base salary of $2M. The remaining two unaccounted-for shares of his bonus (since his contract is through 2009) would accelerate and count next year as $1.7M in "dead money". It's not split in 1/2 between the years (unless there are only 2 years remaining on a contract).

The catch that many seem to not be realizing - and apparently Drew didn't either - is that by using the exemption, they will be getting June 1 treatment, but Edwin's present cap number stays on the books as it is until June 1, when the Ravens would be the $2M rebate.

So, while there still may be something to the McGahee rumors, Mulitalo's release is not a precursor to that since it's not going to be creating any major currrent cap savings.

**purplepoe** · 03-07-2007, 12:44 PM

Originally Posted by ClericBlackDave

Perhaps its a message to Ogden. Get ready to play with whoever we decide to start, or get ready to retire.

Ogden retiring would free up even more cap space, if I recall correctly.

Would you stop with this crap already?

You act like JO gave some ultimatum that Mule and Flynn have to be on the roster or he's out.

It's all speculation at best. And Im sure he'd like to spend what might be his last season with guys that he's busted ass with for 7 or 8 years. Who wouldn't? It doesn't mean he told the FO who not to cut.

Stop acting like JO is some huge distraction. He's never held anything over this organizations head and vice versa. Ozzie and Co. have way too much respect for him to send some stupid "message" through cutting a guy like Mulitalo. If that move enables the Ravens to aquire a guy like Magahee, do you honestly think Ogden says..."Screw them, they got a young quality RB but cut Edwin, Im done with them."?

Ogden wants to win. Period. That's all he's said for years now. Win, win, win.

And he played 85% of last season with Brown next to him. He sure didn't seem down when he was wired for sound for the NO game.

You love to think the worst of many on this team. Some I can see. But give it a rest with the best player ever to wear a Ravens uniform.

PP

**Luker218** · 03-07-2007, 12:57 PM

Has there been any further updates on WNST the last hour or two?

**purplepoe** · 03-07-2007, 01:15 PM

Originally Posted by PurpleRulz

It was reported on the radio. Hint: turn your radio knob switch to "On".

Weren't you the one who questioned the Jarrett Johnson signing when I posted Clayton's columnn when he clearly wrote we re-signed him? Not to mention Brent Harris was reporting it.

Originally Posted by PurpleRulz

I wouldn't say "good" yet. This is not being reported anywhere else. I'd wait for some legit confirmation before celebrating.

Originally Posted by PurpleRulz

Again, this is NOT reported anywhere (internet or TV), so don't count this as news until it is made official. Clayton has been wrong about signings before.

Yea, you were.

Yet NST reports that Mulitalo will be cut. Not that he's been cut. But that he will be cut. Someone asks if there is any other outlet reporting it and you jump all over them? Gimme a break.

PP

**TL24x7** · 03-07-2007, 01:20 PM

Tony - that's not exactly how it works. If they use the exemption, this year's pro-rata share of bonus money still counts - $850K - and they are relieved of his base salary of $2M. The remaining two unaccounted-for shares of his bonus (since his contract is through 2009) would accelerate and count next year as $1.7M in "dead money". It's not split in 1/2 between the years (unless there are only 2 years remaining on a contract).

Speaking of being wrong....B-More, I did think that there were only 2 years remaining on Edwin's contract and assumed the mechanics were similar to a post June 1 cut...thanks for clearing that up.

The leather doesn't taste as bad with snow!

**GreenWave52** · 03-07-2007, 01:31 PM

THis thread is heading off track.

I would rather cut Vincnet over Mule, but perhaps there isn't any cap benefit of cutting Vincent. Or maybe they want to keep Brown on the left side instead of switching over to RG?

The reason Flynn, the worst player on the line, isn't a cap cut target is because he can suck at 2 positions and is the only back-up center. (I guess in emergency they could put Brown in the position and move someone else to guard.

Since we got Rimpf back we aren't perilously thin inside (still thin though) but with no back-ups at the tackle positions look for us to go o-line early and often in the draft.

**Gwaihir** · 03-07-2007, 01:36 PM

Originally Posted by GreenWave52

Since we got Rimpf back we aren't perilously thin inside (still thin though) but with no back-ups at the tackle positions look for us to go o-line early and often in the draft.

I'm thinking at least 1 guard and two tackles. Hopefully Sears or Staley at # 1.

**Gabrosin** · 03-07-2007, 01:42 PM

I'm just not sold on this whole idea. I don't think we should be trading a draft pick for a RB and giving him a big contract extension. I like that the runner in question is coming into the prime of his career, but this is going to hurt our ability to keep together the rest of our talent. I haven't been flattered with McGahee so far, but then again, he's had a shitty line to work with and not much consistency in the rest of the offense.

**purplepoe** · 03-07-2007, 01:45 PM

Mulitalo cannot stay healthy.

Is he a better player than Flynn? Eh, it's almost debateable now.

Ed is extremely one dimensional and has never been very quick.

We don't even know for sure if he's been cut, but I think if it didn't happen now, it most likely would've happened a little further down the line.

I thought when he was IR'd last season that we had seen his last play in a Ravens uniform.

PP

**GreenWave52** · 03-07-2007, 02:10 PM

Aaron Wilson is saying the Ravens have officially cut Edwin Mulitalo now on YBR. A story should follow.

**Gwaihir** · 03-07-2007, 02:26 PM

Since no one else seems to be interested in McGahee, I'm not so sure we shouldn't be holding out for a fourth round pick given up, like we did with McNair. I'm not really sure how I feel about picking this guy up, yet, but for a fourth, it seems reasonable, even if we don't sign him long term. I know he's buddies with Ray and Ed Reed, but there has to be some reason no one else wants him.

**HDDream** · 03-07-2007, 02:28 PM

The Ravens official site is also reporting it.

**purplepoe** · 03-07-2007, 02:32 PM

Originally Posted by Gwaihir

Since no one else seems to be interested in McGahee, I'm not so sure we shouldn't be holding out for a fourth round pick given up, like we did with McNair. I'm not really sure how I feel about picking this guy up, yet, but for a fourth, it seems reasonable, even if we don't sign him long term. I know he's buddies with Ray and Ed Reed, but there has to be some reason no one else wants him.

1. He's only signed for this season.

2. Most teams have either filled their RB needs or are going to draft a player very high with the hopes of starting him this season.

What teams right now need a starting RB?

Ravens, Packers (many believe they want Marshawn Lynch), Browns (Peterson seems like a no brainer), and maybe the Giants. Rumor has it they offered a 4th rounder for Magahee but no more. They also have Brandon Jacobs who they might go with as a #1 and bring in a lesser guy via F/A or a later round pick.

PP

**HDDream** · 03-07-2007, 02:38 PM

The Ravens don't have a fourth round pick. I don't think McGahee's worth the cost, when you factor in the contract it will cost to extend him.

**Gwaihir** · 03-07-2007, 02:44 PM

I thought we were supposed to get some Fourth Round compensatory picks? When will we find out about them and what picks do we actually have as of right now?

**purplepoe** · 03-07-2007, 02:47 PM

Originally Posted by HDDream

The Ravens don't have a fourth round pick. I don't think McGahee's worth the cost, when you factor in the contract it will cost to extend him.

Really?

I guess it depends on what the dollar numbers are.

However, I certainly think he's worth a 3rd round pick. Especially where we are picking this year.

PP

**ClericBlackDave** · 03-07-2007, 02:48 PM

Stop acting like JO is some huge distraction

Never said that, dont' put words in my mouth. I'm saying that he's on the books for a contract that could be limiting our free agency. If he's in, he should be in. if he's out, clear the cap space while it still has value.

Terry is going to be a decent LT. RT? Not so much. In general, it'd be fine to have Ogden retire, terry at LT, and a draftpick/FA at RT. AND clear up some cap space.

Thats my opinion. The teams needs to get younger on the o-line, and has basically had it messed up by 1) staying old and 2) having too much money invested in one player, Ogden.

Draft some young guys, we got rimpf going for us . . . we have plenty of interior depth.

Out with the old, in with the new. Teams like the Patriots do that all the time.

P.S. I would give as high as a 2nd round pick for Magahee, for how low we're picking. And I'd cut mulitalo to do it, if thats what the Ravens are doing.

**HDDream** · 03-07-2007, 02:49 PM

Poe, it's the contract that he's going to get (as well as some red flags about his attitude). I just can't buy into the idea of giving him an eight figure signing bonus, given his production in the league so far.

They probably will get one or two comp picks in the fourth (as well as two others later)- but those can't be traded. As for the picks they have as of now:

1st Round- 29th overall
2nd Round- 61th overall
3rd Round- 92nd overall
5th Round- 156th overall
6th Round- 188th overall
7th Round- 220th overall