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    Re: Tom Brady is father to 2 children??



    Does not effect me/ my family/ my bank acct./ my tix price/ my team.....who cares
    The societal ills this kind of behavior causes does indeed affect you daily. Your taxes are higher because of it, your likelyhood of being a crime victim is, your family is less safe, etc. It actually effects you detrimentally in every aspect of you and your family's life.





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    Re: Tom Brady is father to 2 children??

    No, I am not, the statistics clearly show that children that grow up without fathers are more likely to:
    a. be drug addicts
    b. be criminals
    c. be on welfare
    d. get pregnant as teenagers
    e. drop out of school

    and that is just scratching the surface.

    If you don't think these things raise our taxes, well..., I don't want to insult you.




  3. Re: Tom Brady is father to 2 children??

    1 or 2 of you need to stop beating around the bush and say it. You are blaming what you believe to be a race discrepancy. As was pointed out, this has been all over the news. I hate it when half the NBA has multiple kids by multiple babies Mommas, and I now hate that Brady has multiple kids in the same manner. It just shows an utter lack of maturity. Sure they can afford it- But that isn't the point. He didn't even have a few years in between. 2 different women at the same darn time.




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    Re: Tom Brady is father to 2 children??

    The Leave It To Beaver days are over, which is demonstrated by decreased marriage numbers and children outside of marriage.
    LOL, and did the increase in all of those societal ills that coincided with that escape your attention.

    And no, poverty does not beget poverty. POOR BEHAVIOR BEGETS POVERTY! People are poor because they behave poorly, they do not behave poorly because they are poor. The statistics also prove that out.

    If you want we can take this to the political forum where I can pull out reems and reems of data that prove that kids from households without fathers have more difficulties than those from nuclear families. And I can show you where the wealth of the family, or class if you prefer, isn't the determinate.

    By the way, I am from a divorced, middle class family, I understand it from the logical, statistical point of view because I have read about it. I also understand it from the inside out. As a father maybe you don't understand the impact as much. Sorry, just the way it is.




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    Greg is 100% on point.

    My original point in this thread was to distinguish between Brady and McGahee.

    Brady isn't being sued by 3 different women.

    McGahee is.

    THAT is a major difference.

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  6. Re: Tom Brady is father to 2 children??

    I understand this is not the 1950's anymore. If an unmarried couple want to have a kid, I don't really have a problem as long as they are going to raise the kid together. What I do think is a serious problem is multiple kids with multiple partners. That is never good.

    I read above that you don't hear much about rich athletes as dead beat Dads. That is simply not the case. You can read all the time about celebs with multiple out of wed lock kids being pulled into court. They don't always stay rich. See Bobby Brown.

    When Rays last contract was being negotiated I read about him needing a big score because of the large family. He had lost much of his income to Lawyers. Well, it might sound harsh, but I don't really care about the size of his family when it comes to his contract. He should get paid for what he does on a football field.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Raven Nurse View Post
    I also have a minor in Psychology, and both of your point of views are are common, although misguided, and most often had by well to do (wealthy/ republicans) that last part is my opinion. Again, we are not writing about society, this thread is about Brady and other pro players. So none of your points are valid!
    I think at various points during the off season we should select candidates for, then nominate, then vote for the absolute most moronic, clueless, offensive, goofy post for the entire year.

    Let's start now.
    Festivus

    His definitions and arguments were so clear in his own mind that he was unable to understand how any reasonable person could honestly differ with him.




  8. Re: Tom Brady is father to 2 children??

    #1, I lump celebs in with athletes cause athletes are celebs. #2, there are a million I could have named. Brown just happened to pop into my head.lol I could named Willis who is being sued by 3 woman.

    A year or 2 back SI did an in depth investigation and story on this very topic. Look it up. Woman follow NBA players around from city to City trying to get pregnant on purpose. Then they sue. Just ask Magic what he thinks of that life style.




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    Maybe some are speaking out because of their religous beliefs and that's unfortunate that people will judge others because of those beliefs. I have a feeling Tom Brady is doing what's right for himself and for his familes. if we hear that he is a two time bum then we can start busting his chops, until then let take a deep breath and relax...we are talking about an upstanding citzen.
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    People are poor because they behave poorly, they do not behave poorly because they are poor.

    That is your opinion, and not a truth. it would be better if you would state it as such.


    There are many theories as to why poverty exists; a very conservative viewpoint points to individual accountability, as you did above.


    While that may be true in *some* cases, that is a gross overgeneralization, and a huge overstatement. There are also many structural causes of poverty which many European and Asian nations have successfully combatted with effective policies. Until the US even tries such methods, claiming the source of all poverty to be based on a "culture of poverty" or certain "sins of the poor" is ignorant at best.


    Read James Morone's "Hellfire Nation" for a great read and a good account of how America and Americans try to use "us v. them" type of mentalities to justify behavior towards groups including poor people, immigrants, african americans, homosexuals, women, etc


    As for Tom Brady, he's got two attractive, RICH women pregnant. What the problem here?


    Those kids will be provided for.


    Anything other worries than that, and you're really getting into the guy's private life.
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  11. Re: Tom Brady is father to 2 children??

    <<< There are also many structural causes of poverty which many European and Asian nations have successfully combatted with effective policies. Until the US even tries such methods, claiming the source of all poverty to be based on a "culture of poverty" or certain "sins of the poor" is ignorant at best.

    Are you trying to say Europe and Asia deal with poverty better then the United States? If so, what policies are you referring to? Because I don't think it's an accurate statement. Have you seen the recent unemployment figures for Europe lately? Just last year, France for example had massive riots in their projects.

    As for Brady- Being rich doesn't let him off the hook. It's that kind of attitude that makes sports figures think they can get away with murder. If you or someone close to you got 2 different women pregnant at the same time, I'm pretty sure you might have a small problem with it.

    It is the 'at same time' thing that makes this look bad.




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    Re: Tom Brady is father to 2 children??

    I also have a minor in Psychology, and both of your point of views are are common, although misguided, and most often had by well to do (wealthy/ republicans) that last part is my opinion. Again, we are not writing about society, this thread is about Brady and other pro players. So none of your points are valid!
    Really, so dispel my points. I am not wealthy and I am a Libertarian.

    The facts are, kids who are raised without a father in the house are more likely to have the problems I have listed and more. Your minor in psychology isn't challenging that fact with real statistics.

    People are poor because they behave poorly, they do not behave poorly because they are poor.
    That is your opinion, and not a truth. it would be better if you would state it as such.
    No, it's the truth. The Economist, hardly a right-wing publication, did a study and found the following in regard to poverty.
    99.5% of the people in poverty who:
    a. graduate high school
    b. get a job and keep it
    c. get married and stay married
    will get out of poverty. 199 out of 200. That's a pretty important statistic. If you are in poverty and make these good choices and avoid the opposing poor choices (not getting a job, dropping out, having children out of wedlock) you are almost guaranteed to get out of poverty. Hence, by not behaving poorly you will no longer be poor. By behaving poorly and not doing these simple things you will be poor.

    Poor choices cause poverty, not the other way around. If you get your free education, get ANY job and keep it until you find a better one, and get married and stay married. These aren't difficult things, they are simply good choices.

    There are many theories as to why poverty exists ...
    That's not a theory, those are facts. Make good choices, get out of poverty 99.5% of the time.

    Read James Morone's "Hellfire Nation" for a great read and a good account of how America and Americans try to use "us v. them" type of mentalities to justify behavior towards groups including poor people, immigrants, african americans, homosexuals, women, etc
    That has absolutely no bearing at all here. I am not trying to justify any behavior. You are, you are trying to justify the poor choices that keep people in poverty. You know, if you made these people aware of these simple things perhaps they might actually employ good choices. Instead, we get the hand-wringing excuse makers and Jesse Jackson race baiters in that tell these poor folks they can't possibly get out. Well, if you told me that long enough I would probably give up and smoke dope all day too.

    And those statistics, they apply to whites, blacks, whoever, just the same. There is absolutely no race component to it, whites who drop out, have children out of wedlock and/or don't get steady work are just as likely to get into or remain in poverty. Bringing race into it only causes confusion and is a race hustler tactic.

    The problem with rich people behaving like this is that they are role models for the masses who lap up this nonsense on E!, Entertainment Tonight, Inside Edition, etc. XYZ is pumping out kids out of wedlock so it must be fine.

    Our culture is flying down the shitter.

    And crazyraven, it has nothing to do with my religion. If you aren't religious and believe taboos come from men and not God, fine, these taboos were still set up by men for a reason. You don't think they wanted to bag every broad they could without impunity? Well, they did, but they married all the women they had children with and were fathers to those children because they discovered thousands of years ago that in fact this was the best way to raise them.

    You can deny that all you want for benefit of your next conquest and orgasm, but it doesn't change the facts. Children without fathers are a bane to society.

    As for Tom Brady, he's got two attractive, RICH women pregnant. What the problem here?

    Those kids will be provided for.
    They'll be provided for monetarily. But without the daily influence of a man in the household they will be more likely to become drug addicts, criminals, die young, get STDs, have children as teenagers, etc.

    http://www.children-ourinvestment.or...utFathers.html

    63% of youth suicides are from fatherless homes (US Dept. Of Health/Census) – 5 times the average.

    90% of all homeless and runaway children are from fatherless homes – 32 times the average.

    85% of all children who show behavior disorders come from fatherless homes – 20 times the average. (Center for Disease Control)

    80% of rapists with anger problems come from fatherless homes --14 times the average. (Justice & Behavior, Vol 14, p. 403-26)

    71% of all high school dropouts come from fatherless homes – 9 times the average. (National Principals Association Report)

    75% of all adolescent patients in chemical abuse centers come from fatherless homes – 10 times the average. (Rainbows for All God’s Children)

    70% of youths in state-operated institutions come from fatherless homes – 9 times the average. (U.S. Dept. of Justice, Sept. 1988)

    85% of all youths in prison come from fatherless homes – 20 times the average.
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