What bettors think of the Ravens now

**Mista T** · 08-02-2011, 08:19 AM

Odds of winning the Super Bowl have dropped from opening 10:1 to current 16:1.

Perhaps we'll see a spike if Casey Rabach dons a purple uniform again!

**Ravenswintitle** · 08-02-2011, 08:23 AM

once again Vegas thinks very highly of the Chargers

**RavensNTerps** · 08-02-2011, 08:24 AM

I think thats a good thing, if I was a betting man.

I think we're a better team now than we were 2 weeks ago. Trim the dead/aging weight. Our core players that will determine our success are still experienced players (Flacco, Ed Reed, Ray Lewis, Haloti Ngata Terrell Suggs, Michael Oher, Ben Grubbs, Marshall Yanda, Anquan Boldin, and Ray Rice).

**GOTA** · 08-02-2011, 08:25 AM

I love how the Redskins dropped from 40:1 to 100:1. It seems that there is little faith in John Beck as their starting QB.

**Jayc00** · 08-02-2011, 08:27 AM

Just means more money for me when I win!

**psuasskicker** · 08-02-2011, 08:29 AM

Originally Posted by RavensNTerps

I think we're a better team now than we were 2 weeks ago. Trim the dead/aging weight. Our core players that will determine our success are still experienced players (Flacco, Ed Reed, Ray Lewis, Haloti Ngata Terrell Suggs, Michael Oher, Ben Grubbs, Marshall Yanda, Anquan Boldin, and Ray Rice).

It's not about that, it's about other teams improving themselves more through free agency. The Pats, Jets and Eagles all took pretty big steps forward and eat into our portion, cause they won't eat into other teams that are already 50:1 or something crazy like that.

If you're not moving forward, you're falling behind, according to most. Thing is, this year, I don't buy that to be the case with the shortened off-season.

- C -

**FearTheRaven** · 08-02-2011, 08:30 AM

My book has the Ravens season win total set at 10.5, was 11 just a few weeks ago.

We're favored to win our division though.

Odds to win the 2011-2012 AFC North Division
Thu 9/8 5:00PM (PST)
14085 Baltimore Ravens -160

Odds to win The 2011-2012 AFC Conference
Sun 9/11 12:00PM (PST)
14041 Baltimore Ravens +800

Odds to win Super Bowl XLVI
Mon 8/8 5:30PM (PST)
11205 Baltimore Ravens +1700

**FearTheRaven** · 08-02-2011, 08:32 AM

Funny thing is, my book has us favored to win the division but 8-1 to win the afc while Pittsburgh is 4.25-1.

Guess they are thinking we don't get by them in the playoffs again?

**HoustonRaven** · 08-02-2011, 08:34 AM

Betting Lines =/= Team Strength

**RavensNTerps** · 08-02-2011, 09:14 AM

Originally Posted by psuasskicker

It's not about that, it's about other teams improving themselves more through free agency. The Pats, Jets and Eagles all took pretty big steps forward and eat into our portion, cause they won't eat into other teams that are already 50:1 or something crazy like that.

If you're not moving forward, you're falling behind, according to most. Thing is, this year, I don't buy that to be the case with the shortened off-season.

- C -

I know that's why I said I like the line move if I was a betting man.

**bensmotorcyclehelmt** · 08-02-2011, 09:27 AM

Originally Posted by psuasskicker

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If you're not moving forward, you're falling behind, according to most. Thing is, this year, I don't buy that to be the case with the shortened off-season.

- C -

Change isn't necessarily a good thing in the NFL.
With the shortened offseason, teams with talent in-house and teams with the same coaching staffs do have an advantage...

[Insert Cam crack here!]

I think we're betting that our promising young guys that have had a year or two in the ravens system may be more ready to go, right away than a middle-tier FA signing.

**somedumbguy** · 08-02-2011, 11:13 AM

Originally Posted by GOTA

I love how the Redskins dropped from 40:1 to 100:1. It seems that there is little faith in John Beck as their starting QB.

On the other hand, their odds to win the Andrew Luck Derby seem to be getting better by the day.

People right now are fascinated by the moves the Eagles, Patriots and Jets have made. I like what the Eagles have done. I am not sold on signing WR's in their 30's.

**zing!** · 08-02-2011, 12:26 PM

I wonder what the Wise Guys odds sheet looks it.

**dandrews** · 08-02-2011, 12:35 PM

I'm half tempted to throw down 10 or 20 bucks on the Rams. They're still 50/1 odds on some websites, and although it's not very probable for them to win, they've made some nice moves over the offseason and the progression of Sam Bradford to a very high level could put them in the Super Bowl.

**TheJoker** · 08-02-2011, 12:40 PM

I might have to throw down some money on the Ravens. I think they still have a good chance to win it all. I would love to see it happen either way.

**FearTheRaven** · 08-02-2011, 12:53 PM

FYI The Ravens are only underdogs two games on their entire schedule.

+3 @Pittsburgh
+1 @San Diego

Tells you what vegas thinks.

**Beau Petard** · 08-02-2011, 01:07 PM

T-- (or any of the rest of you scofflaws who understand the legal and illegal wagering systems

)

I know a little about statistics and a little about gambling, which puts me into the category of "No knowledge is better than a little knowledge". My understanding is that, for an individual game, the line (e.g., let's say Balt-Pitt in the opener) is set such that the middlemen (I've heard them called various names - Las Vegas, bookies, Louie the Collector) collect, or hope to collect, no matter what the final score is. So if the Ravens are favored by 3, the line will move more or less if the betting money becomes imbalanced to either side.

My question - how does this work for the odds given for each team in the league, since they are all pitted "against each other"? In other words, do the odds for the Ravens "drop" from 10:1 to 16:1 because the oddsmakers think the team is "weaker", or do they change because of the amount of money placed on Balt? If the latter, how does that "work"?

Thanks, and no, I don't have any money to bet!