This is what Teachers' Unions/DemocRats/Progressive/Socialists think of African American children.

[4G63]

When will African American's wake up and see what Democrats think of them? When predominantly white Union members picket a school that teaches predominantly African American children (with 85% of its graduates going to college) and that's run by an African American Brother you know that this country is upside down. Will you see this on CBS, NBC, MSDNC? Doubtful, as it doesn't fit their narrative.

Waits for Galen's spin that this is "edited"....and I wonder if the TEA party were to protest outside a school that 0bama was visiting what kind of coverage that would get?

[Galen Sevinne]

When will African American's wake up and see what Democrats think of them? When predominantly white Union members picket a school that teaches predominantly African American children (with 85% of its graduates going to college) and that's run by an African American Brother you know that this country is upside down. Will you see this on CBS, NBC, MSDNC? Doubtful, as it doesn't fit their narrative.

Waits for Galen's spin that this is "edited"....and I wonder if the TEA party were to protest outside a school that 0bama was visiting what kind of coverage that would get?

There is really nothing to spin here. Unions are protesting Walker...it has been going on for months. You just tuning in here? There wasn't a thing mentioned about race except by the one who created the video and you. Sad.

After posting about the sun having more to do with climate change than humans (duh), you follow with unions protesting Walker. What's your next post going to enlighten us about?...maybe a connection between the amount of wind and rain that went through yesterday and Hurricane Irene?

More low information stuff from the low information side.

[4G63]

There is really nothing to spin here. Unions are protesting Walker...it has been going on for months. You just tuning in here? There wasn't a thing mentioned about race except by the one who created the video and you. Sad.

After posting about the sun having more to do with climate change than humans (duh), you follow with unions protesting Walker. What's your next post going to enlighten us about?...maybe a connection between the amount of wind and rain that went through yesterday and Hurricane Irene?

More low information stuff from the low information side.

You fail to see the optics in this. The Unions lost in the elections and because of Gov. Walker local school boards are able to provide equal healthcare coverage to ALL of its teachers at a cheaper cost to the city. Its called the free market and it works when implemented properly. While pandering for Union votes, former Mayor Cieslewicz extended Labor contracts ahead of the collective bargaining law change, much to the detriment of the school district in Madison. Because of this, many people will be laid off, including fellow FF's and Police. How's that sound?

If you were to show the above video to an apolitical person they'd be wondering Why the f*** are they protesting at a successful school?

[Galen Sevinne]

You fail to see the optics in this. The Unions lost in the elections and because of Gov. Walker local school boards are able to provide equal healthcare coverage to ALL of its teachers at a cheaper cost to the city. Its called the free market and it works when implemented properly. While pandering for Union votes, former Mayor Cieslewicz extended Labor contracts ahead of the collective bargaining law change, much to the detriment of the school district in Madison. Because of this, many people will be laid off, including fellow FF's and Police. How's that sound?

If you were to show the above video to an apolitical person they'd be wondering Why the f*** are they protesting at a successful school?

The optics are quite clear that the unions are protesting Walker's appearance at this school. There is nothing mentioned about protesting this school, or the schools A.A. population, or the administrator of the school or anything about the success of the school. You bought hook, line and sinker into the maker of the video's purpose...to make the protesters of Walker's agenda appear racist and thus to minimize their front.

Your title of the thread: This is what Teachers' Unions/DemocRats/Progressive/Socialists think of African American children. is flat out ignorant race baiting. There is no way around it. There is not a single comment made by any protester negative (or positive for that matter) about A.A. children or the school.

Now if your title was, "This is what Teachers' Unions/DemocRats/Progressive/Socialists think of Walker" you would have an accurate thread title and plenty of connie "privateers" on board.

On second look at the video I love at around 3:30 in the video it says something about Scott Walker talking to kids about his "Read to Lead" initiative. Now I am fine about stressing the importance of reading to kids especially to kids who might come from homes where readingis not valued but I do remember the absolute conservative outrage when Obama spoke about his initiative of service to school ageed kids. Or the conservative outrage when Michelle Obama speaks to kids about her initiative of healthy eating. This might be the most salient point of discussion in this video. The fact that no one feels a need to protest Scott Walker's initiative "feeding" but are just cleanly protesting his desire to kill unions. Conservatives would forming militia's if Obama presented an initiative to a school.

[4G63]

On second look at the video I love at around 3:30 in the video it says something about Scott Walker talking to kids about his "Read to Lead" initiative. Now I am fine about stressing the importance of reading to kids especially to kids who might come from homes where readingis not valued but I do remember the absolute conservative outrage when Obama spoke about his initiative of service to school ageed kids. Or the conservative outrage when Michelle Obama speaks to kids about her initiative of healthy eating. This might be the most salient point of discussion in this video. The fact that no one feels a need to protest Scott Walker's initiative "feeding" but are just cleanly protesting his desire to kill unions. Conservatives would forming militia's if Obama presented an initiative to a school.

Barry "0" has nothing to say about schools. He stopped DC's voucher program so to say he truly cares about kids is laughable. Using Michelle 0bama and her "do as I say,not as I do" approach to childrens healthy eating is also laughable.

[Galen Sevinne]

Barry "0" has nothing to say about schools. He stopped DC's voucher program so to say he truly cares about kids is laughable. Using Michelle 0bama and her "do as I say,not as I do" approach to childrens healthy eating is also laughable.

I take it your punt here to a brain dead criticism of Michelle eating ribs is about as much admission one will get from you that your title of the thread was way out of line.

By the way, I am 6'2" and weigh 170 lbs. I eat ribs on occasion. I would hardly say my desire to be healthy is negated by eating ribs once or twice a year.

[StingerNLG]

The shame of it is the unions are protesting because they want theirs. They don't care one bit about the kids, the teachers, or the education system. They never have. It's all about getting their money, and keeping their power to impose their will on the state. And as this latest protest shows, by any means necessary. Even when they have to use kids to do it.

Disgusting, and why I will never support unions.

[4G63]

The shame of it is the unions are protesting because they want theirs. They don't care one bit about the kids, the teachers, or the education system. They never have. It's all about getting their money, and keeping their power to impose their will on the state. And as this latest protest shows, by any means necessary. Even when they have to use kids to do it.

Disgusting, and why I will never support unions.

As a professional FF within MD and a member of a Union, I understand your frustration and don't begrudge your opinion. I would just ask that when making a statement against a Union, see what each Union does and take it on a case-by-case basis. My fellow FF's cringe when we see the behavior of Union members like this as its a reflection on us as well.

[HoustonRaven]

As a professional FF within MD and a member of a Union, I understand your frustration and don't begrudge your opinion. I would just ask that when making a statement against a Union, see what each Union does and take it on a case-by-case basis. My fellow FF's cringe when we see the behavior of Union members like this as its a reflection on us as well.

While I support you and your career, I do not support local Government unions.

It's a money grab. Plain and simple. Public service unions speak out of both sides of their mouth, saying they will support candidate "x" so long as the money flows their way -- taxpayer money, I might add.

They also are mostly one-party contributors who lost objectivity a long time ago.

[4G63]

While I support you and your career, I do not support local Government unions.

It's a money grab. Plain and simple. Public service unions speak out of both sides of their mouth, saying they will support candidate "x" so long as the money flows their way -- taxpayer money, I might add.

They also are mostly one-party contributors who lost objectivity a long time ago.

But that was my point above. The rank-and-file member doesn't necessarily agree with who their Union supports. I'd kick Richard Trumka in the face if I could as he doesn't represent how I feel. Most of my fellow firefighters are Republican or would be considered a "blue dog" if they're a Democrat. I honestly can't speak for other FF unions in MD but my employer and union have made numerous fair concessions to keep everyone happy, most importantly being the taxpayers. My County is well run and we contribute both to our healthcare costs and our retirement system which is why I cringe when you see the behavior of Wisconsin teachers because they have to actually contribute to both their healthcare and retirement costs now vs having the taxpayers paying for all of it like before.

I can honestly say that if you were to see what we get in compensation vs. what we provide the taxpayers, they'd have no problem with their current tax rate. Especially compared to other jurisdictions. During the recent hurricane we provided numerous services that other jurisdictions would never provide to their citizens. Just keep in mind that most FOP and IAFF members are just as conservative as you and I and live in the real world. We understand that when shit gets tight we shouldn't expect much in return.

[HoustonRaven]

Watch "Waiting for Superman".

Highly recommended. Written and directed by a staunch liberal who had the guts to cut through the politics and expose the teachers unions for what they are.

And if you're truly interested in the subject as I am, read up on Michelle Rhee. She's the former head of the DC school system and a focus of the movie.

[4G63]

Watch "Waiting for Superman".

Highly recommended. Written and directed by a staunch liberal who had the guts to cut through the politics and expose the teachers unions for what they are.

And if you're truly interested in the subject as I am, read up on Michelle Rhee. She's the former head of the DC school system and a focus of the movie.

http://www.facebook.com/StudentsFirstHQ

[HoustonRaven]

So opt out.

Nobody is forcing you to stay in.

[4G63]

So opt out.

Nobody is forcing you to stay in.

You're right, I could. But my union actually works for all those involved (the Administration and Fire Dept) and we support Republicans when they run. You can call that hypocritical or whatever but I really don't give a crap either way. We decide what to do and don't follow lock step with what the IAFF or the AFL-CIO does.