Ain't the Kool-Aid Cold Today

**Ravenfan_11** · 09-02-2011, 11:41 AM

A few years ago, you used to be able to have an opinion on this board. Now if you critize Ozzie or the team, you get blasted. Not by the moderators, but by the other posters.

Well, I came to say that I think Torrey Smith looks like a true bust. Yeah, I don't care that's it's only 4 games in. You can just tell. He's not an NFL player. I think Ozzie totally and completely blew this one.

I'm sure someone will think I'm a Stooler fan now or something like that becuase I don't blindly follow everything Ozzie does. Oh well - go ahead and flame me now.

**Irish Raven** · 09-02-2011, 11:45 AM

He needs help with his confidence, the coaches won't be writing him off as a bust
He'll come good in time

In 1985, breaking in as an NFL rookie, Rice admitted he was scared and dropped the ball more than usual. "I was thinking through every step of a complicated offense," he said, "instead of using natural reactions."

Smith is no Jerry Rice, who is? So I'm not making a ridiculous comparison, it's just a relevant quote
So even the best can struggle at the beginning

**NCRAVEN** · 09-02-2011, 11:45 AM

Dear God, Can we please Ban this moron already. He ONLY comes on here to throw out utterly ridiculous BS.

**moose10101** · 09-02-2011, 11:49 AM

Translation: "Whenever somebody disagrees with me, my uterus hurts."

This is a discussion board. If you can't present a logical argument to back up your "opinions", expect to get bitch-slapped.

**goodandfast** · 09-02-2011, 11:49 AM

Originally Posted by Ravenfan_11

A few years ago, you used to be able to have an opinion on this board. Now if you critize Ozzie or the team, you get blasted. Not by the moderators, but by the other posters.

Well, I came to say that I think Torrey Smith looks like a true bust. Yeah, I don't care that's it's only 4 games in. You can just tell. He's not an NFL player. I think Ozzie totally and completely blew this one.

I'm sure someone will think I'm a Stooler fan now or something like that becuase I don't blindly follow everything Ozzie does. Oh well - go ahead and flame me now.

"The sky is falling! The sky is falling!"

It doesn't matter if Torrey Smith is a bust or not. Ozzie has repeatedly put together championship level teams, if you don't agree with that, you are deluded. Missing on a player here or there means nothing.

That being said, 4 preseason football games is not anywhere near enough time to tell. It may be your gut feeling, it may be my gut feeling, hell it could even be Harbaugh's gut feeling at this point, but the point is, there hasn't been enough time to make any determination, and even if he is a bust, that doesn't mean anything for this team- it doesn't affect our ability to win a championship this year, next year, or even the year after.

**Raveninwoodlawn** · 09-02-2011, 11:50 AM

I don't think he deserves to be banned for having a ridiculous opinion.

**HKusp** · 09-02-2011, 11:52 AM

A rookie is a bust after the preseason??? Throw something at the wall and see if it sticks I guess.

**NCRAVEN** · 09-02-2011, 11:52 AM

I've seen it before, albeit they were Steelers fans. But I wouldn't mind idiocy from Ravens fans being sent to the trash heap a little quicker.

**GOTA** · 09-02-2011, 11:57 AM

Originally Posted by Ravenfan_11

A few years ago, you used to be able to have an opinion on this board. Now if you critize Ozzie or the team, you get blasted. Not by the moderators, but by the other posters.

Well, I came to say that I think Torrey Smith looks like a true bust. Yeah, I don't care that's it's only 4 games in. You can just tell. He's not an NFL player. I think Ozzie totally and completely blew this one.

I'm sure someone will think I'm a Stooler fan now or something like that becuase I don't blindly follow everything Ozzie does. Oh well - go ahead and flame me now.

How is Torrey Smith 4 games in when he has never even been in a real game?

**Ravenfan_11** · 09-02-2011, 11:57 AM

wow, that proved my point even faster than I thought.

**RavenScallywag** · 09-02-2011, 12:03 PM

Originally Posted by NCRAVEN

Dear God, Can we please Ban this moron already. He ONLY comes on here to throw out utterly ridiculous BS.

Since he dosn't do QUITE enough to get banned, there is this wonderful thing called the ignore list, it'll at least keep your head from hurting whenever you see the inane babble.

**Ravenswintitle** · 09-02-2011, 12:07 PM

They don't need him this year anyway IMO. think of it that way...

**alien bird** · 09-02-2011, 12:08 PM

Originally Posted by Ravenfan_11

A few years ago, you used to be able to have an opinion on this board. Now if you critize Ozzie or the team, you get blasted. Not by the moderators, but by the other posters.

Well, I came to say that I think Torrey Smith looks like a true bust. Yeah, I don't care that's it's only 4 games in. You can just tell. He's not an NFL player. I think Ozzie totally and completely blew this one.

I'm sure someone will think I'm a Stooler fan now or something like that becuase I don't blindly follow everything Ozzie does. Oh well - go ahead and flame me now.

Okay, I won't blast you. You have the right to an opinion. But, for the sake of discussion:

You get to be GM, and you even get the benefit of seeing these guys throughout preseason. What would you have done instead with the 58th pick instead of selecting Torrey Smith? Keep in mind the Ravens' needs at the time.

You're on the clock - you have ten minutes.

**wickedsolo** · 09-02-2011, 12:15 PM

Originally Posted by alien bird

Okay, I won't blast you. You have the right to an opinion. But, for the sake of discussion:

You get to be GM, and you even get the benefit of seeing these guys throughout preseason. What would you have done instead with the 58th pick instead of selecting Torrey Smith? Keep in mind the Ravens' needs at the time.

You're on the clock - you have ten minutes.

"I would have traded Gaither for Miles Austin and a 3rd round pick from Dallas. Then I would have traded McGahee for the rest of the entire draft of the Denver Broncos and then I would have..."

Oh wait, this isn't fanasty football is it?

**Zisi** · 09-02-2011, 12:17 PM

I totally and completely respect your opinion and your right to hold such an opinion. You are not, and will never be, a stoolers fan. Good on ya!!!

(is that the kind of response you're craving????)

**wickedsolo** · 09-02-2011, 12:20 PM

Everyone is entitled to their opinions. It's just that sometimes their opinions are wrong, misguided, and fool of asshatery.

**PurpleRulz** · 09-02-2011, 12:41 PM

Originally Posted by Ravenfan_11

wow, that proved my point even faster than I thought.

Try the scout message board or Baltimore sun board. Your I.Q. would fit better there. This board is too advanced and difficult for you. We drink Kool Aid that's flavored with intelligence.

**mjones73** · 09-02-2011, 12:44 PM

Your still allowed to have an opinion, just don't expect everyone to agree with it. Now hopefully those who don't agree can have some intelligent discussions with you about it.

Personally I still think it's too early to tell, the guy needs a couple real games under his belt.

**Ravenfan_11** · 09-02-2011, 12:48 PM

Originally Posted by alien bird

Okay, I won't blast you. You have the right to an opinion. But, for the sake of discussion:

You get to be GM, and you even get the benefit of seeing these guys throughout preseason. What would you have done instead with the 58th pick instead of selecting Torrey Smith? Keep in mind the Ravens' needs at the time.

You're on the clock - you have ten minutes.

Actually, sadly - I did a backflip when we drafted Torry. I would have drated him too if I was Ozzie. In fact, I was on this very board that night in late April flaming Ozzie and saying he had no balls if he didn't take Torrey smith.

Maybe I'm just disapointed in him so far and took it out on others instead. I'm going to apologize, take my purple ball, and go home now.

**goodandfast** · 09-02-2011, 12:52 PM

Originally Posted by Ravenfan_11

Actually, sadly - I did a backflip when we drafted Torry. I would have drated him too if I was Ozzie. In fact, I was on this very board that night in late April flaming Ozzie and saying he had no balls if he didn't take Torrey smith.

Maybe I'm just disapointed in him so far and took it out on others instead. I'm going to apologize, take my purple ball, and go home now.

It's cool if you expected him to be better than he has been and you are disappointed in that but don't crush the player or the team for having your own expectations foiled.