Ravens, artist must negotiate logo compensation

**EdReed4HOF** · 11-11-2011, 10:05 PM

http://articles.philly.com/2011-11-1...derick-bouchat

**BleedPurple92** · 11-11-2011, 10:27 PM

Originally Posted by EdReed4HOF

http://articles.philly.com/2011-11-1...derick-bouchat

Hey your signature.... hahaha i thought i was the only one that noticed that Madden quote.

Aahhh madden pre 09. John Madden commentating was the best lol.

**SouthJerseyRaven** · 11-12-2011, 02:01 AM

yesss throwbacks =)

**Lime in the Coconut** · 11-12-2011, 02:18 AM

Hopefully they get that worked out, the old logo was pretty sick

**RavenScallywag** · 11-12-2011, 05:34 AM

will this thing EVER go away?

**PurpleApocalypse37** · 11-12-2011, 06:03 AM

Good Wtf. That guy deserves his money for making our logo. That is the way things work. Get with the program, Stevie.

(Assuming he's the guy dragging his feet. I didn't click link.)

**bacchys** · 11-12-2011, 07:11 AM

I loved the flying B. I thought trying to rip the guy off was a bad and dumb move on Modell's part, especially given how little the guy actually wanted.

**Peterman** · 11-12-2011, 09:14 AM

Personally, I hated the flying B logo.

**RavenousD** · 11-12-2011, 09:31 AM

How much does he want? Geeze let us fans raise it up and pay him. This has gone on for way too long. Unless he is trying to break the proverbial bank the Ravens should pay him. We have a really classy organization, but this is very classless.

**PeterB58** · 11-12-2011, 09:47 AM

Originally Posted by Peterman

Personally, I hated the flying B logo.

I wasn't a fan of it either....but apparently the Ravens (and I presume the league) cannot show any pre-1998 Ravens highlights until they agree on how to compensate this guy.

I agree...get a deal done and move on.

**flraven** · 11-12-2011, 10:39 AM

Originally Posted by PeterB58

I wasn't a fan of it either....but apparently the Ravens (and I presume the league) cannot show any pre-1998 Ravens highlights until they agree on how to compensate this guy.

I agree...get a deal done and move on.

I didn't care for it either, although one of the alternate logos back then, the side view of the bird's head was pretty good, as was the front view (also known as the KISS face)

**Captain Silver** · 11-12-2011, 10:45 AM

I like the current logo better, but for hells sake, pay the guy. The Ravens have paid Dominique Foxworth millions to do less.

**Rxdoxx** · 11-12-2011, 01:07 PM

Originally Posted by RavenScallywag

will this thing EVER go away?

It will when they pay. I think it has become an albatross that will hang over the Ravens org until they do.

It resembles the high and mighty NFL's arrogance in dealing with the commoners.

Ravens have broken with that image to some degree, former players didn't leave cursing management, free agents come because of the respect reputation the team has of human respect (no leak of a player's epilepsy until the player broke it).

But this situation is somebody in the office made a decision, and a little guy made a decision not to accept being cr*pped on.
No idea what he is asking for now, I assume it is a lot more (with lawyer frees and court costs) than he would have been elated with early - a decent check and recognition would have gone a long way back then.

Now there has been a court decision saying Ravens you stole it.
So it is not going away ever, until they pay.
When that person dies and is buried it will be mentioned in the newspaper that he went to his grave with the Ravens owing him money if Steve doesn't tell somebody to do what it takes to end it.

**mmi16** · 11-12-2011, 02:04 PM

Pay the man and move on!

**Ravenswintitle** · 11-12-2011, 02:29 PM

I thought there was some dispute over whether he really was the original artist. Was that confirmed?

If he is the artist, Biscotti should pay him $1M and sleep like a baby. I still have a hat with that logo

**Captain Silver** · 11-12-2011, 03:12 PM

As an artist, I think he should get paid. I met Steve once upon a time, and he seems like such a fair guy, I wish he would just wade through the B.S. tell the lawyers and NFL to piss off, and do the right thing. It is within his means and it would do more for the Ravens and his reputation to do the right thing.

**Mr.Boh** · 11-12-2011, 03:23 PM

I am all for paying the man. But I also think he was pretty dumb to send it in unsolicited.

**Captain Silver** · 11-12-2011, 03:30 PM

Originally Posted by Mr.Boh

I am all for paying the man. But I also think he was pretty dumb to send it in unsolicited.

True artists really don't think of compensation, they want to make people happy, the fact he asked for so little proves this. This is a matter of pride, and the NFL is the one that is acting the fool. Not some happy fan with talent who just wanted to support the team.

**lobachevsky** · 11-12-2011, 03:53 PM

Originally Posted by Mr.Boh

I am all for paying the man. But I also think he was pretty dumb to send it in unsolicited.

When the logos were still up in the air, the team should have made a public announcement that no unsolicited ideas would be accepted and anything sent in unsolicited would be immediately destroyed if opened by mistake. And then hired some independent group to open & screen all mail until the logos were set.

Hindsight is often 20-20, but this sort of problem has existed for decades with TV scripts. It's not so unlikely for someone to have the same general idea for an episode as one that eventually gets written & used, especially if that's the way the story is going anyhow--& that can lead to all sorts of legal entanglements. So for decades it's been the policy of all TV production companies (insisted on by the Writers' Guild, the scriptwriters' union) that unsolicited scripts or story ideas are accepted only through a recognized literary agent, & then only after a prelimiinary query. Anything that comes in on its own is returned unopened or destroyed before opening. (Of course a teleplay is thick enough to be pretty much instantly recognizable as such, unlike the few pages needed for logo designs.)