The John Harbaugh Debate Thread (Merged Threads)

[BleedPurple92]

Hate to break it to you all but it IS possible to like and respect the accomplishments of both Billick and Harbs.

Shocking, I know.

That's perfectly fine, but to say Harbaugh isn't a good coach or he is in over his head, well that's just wrong. I was always a billick fan, but i think Harbaugh has proven he's a hell of a coach.

Once people get a little taste of success they always want more and more, and are never happy with with they have, this is a perfect example. I'm happy with going deep into the playoffs every year, if you keep hammering one of these years you're gonna win the big one. Elmo could be our coach, and if he could do that for us i wouldn't care.

[HoustonRaven]

That's perfectly fine, but to say Harbaugh isn't a good coach or he is in over his head, well that's just wrong. I was always a billick fan, but i think Harbaugh has proven he's a hell of a coach.

Once people get a little taste of success they always want more and more, and are never happy with with they have, this is a perfect example. I'm happy with going deep into the playoffs every year, if you keep hammering one of these years you're gonna win the big one. Elmo could be our coach, and if he could do that for us i wouldn't care.

[MarkS]

Opinion #1: Harbaugh inherited a team that expected to make the playoffs and contend for the division because that is where Billick had set the bar.

Disagree. From 01-07, The Ravens only made the playoffs 3 times in 7 years, and won exactly one playoff game in that time (zero in the last 6), with an overall team record of 61 wins, 57 losses. We simply were not a consistent playoff contender, like we are now.

Billick took a franchise that was a joke and stuck in irrelevance and gave it an identity and a winning attitude. Billick handled the Ray Lewis Atlanta situation perfectly and turned a potential disaster into a championship season. When Billick left it was time for him to go, but I will always be grateful for what he brought to the Ravens and to Baltimore.

If people have misinterpreted my comments as an attack on BB, that's wrong. I love and respect Billick for everything he did for us in his time here, and have always thought he was a very good coach. Which, of course, makes what Harbaugh has done in his time here even more impressive by comparison.

[MarkS]

Billick coached teams won 4 playoff games in the 2000 season, and one in the 2001 season.

Yep, 5 total. And Harbaugh has 4. As I said, with one more playoff victory this year, he'll match Billick's total.

[Paintballguy]

He has been to playoffs his first 3 years. But IMO I think he is over his head sometimes. Don't think his is involve with offense or defense schemes and our special team sucks. someone please convince me why his is a good coach?

I agree. Harbaugh is way in over his head.

[lovefootball]

Yep, 5 total. And Harbaugh has 4. As I said, with one more playoff victory this year, he'll match Billick's total.

How about 4? Includes winning the SB. Billick has company now, Baltimore has 2 SB winning coaches.

[ActualSpamBot]

Holy balls this thread is hysterical. Some of you folks need to count your lucky stars that this team so rarely caves to fan pressure when it comes to coaching and personnel decisions.

(I especially like the guy who claimed that Harbs only got the job here because Jim was our QB for two years over a decade before.)

[HoustonRaven]

I usually don't like bumped threads but this one is just classic.

Crow is for breakfast!

[B-more Ravor]

Holy balls this thread is hysterical. Some of you folks need to count your lucky stars that this team so rarely caves to fan pressure when it comes to coaching and personnel decisions.