Draft Prospects

**Iscull** · 03-07-2012, 07:34 AM

Originally Posted by wickedsolo

Central Florida CB, Josh Robinson, has really moved up a lot of people's draft boards.

Fastest player at the combine IIRC, and he excells in man coverage. Screams Al Davis Pick. (R.I.P.)

**Iscull** · 03-07-2012, 07:36 AM

Originally Posted by Lime in the Coconut

I just can't see Pitt taking another DE. Let's face it, they'll be taking Hightower if that's how it sets up. I also don't think Upshaw would be a good fit in NE. I think Andre Branch would be more of their type because he probably offers more as a pass rusher. I just see Upshaw as a Raven at this point which I'd be very happy about by the way.

If Poe is there, I think they run their card up. Absolutely no brainer, especially when Hampton and Smith are probably done. Heyward, Poe, and Hood is a very very athletic and talented front 3 for a 3-4 defense.

**Iscull** · 03-07-2012, 07:38 AM

Originally Posted by Lime in the Coconut

I'm sold on Hill. He may be raw in areas, but he's got a lot potential and he may just be there when we pick at 29, we'll see. Houston could possibly take a stab at him and maybe even New England, but I would not mind that selection at all. At this point I'm hoping for Hightower, Upshaw, or Hill. Konz is a very good prospect but I agree with those who say a guy like Philip Blake offers just as much value in the 3rd.

I like Hill, but I wouldn't take him unless the guys think he is a sure-fire first rounder. As for Kronz, I feel like he is a solid player, but has an over valued stock due to lack of quality centers in the draft. Like Wicked has stated multiple times, Zeitler might be the best option. Would be great value in the 2nd round and can play both guard and center.

**JAB1985** · 03-07-2012, 07:50 AM

Pitt took Timmons in the first but wouldnt history say they normally find their LBs later in the draft? Im not sold on them taking a LB in the 1st. quite honestly they need OL DL and even DB help much more than LB where they have 3 guys that can cover up another players weaknesses. Now if Poe is there somehow, i do think theyll grab him over OL help.

After watching Hill workout again, im more sold than ever. that kid is going to be a very good WR in the NFL, someday. As long as he wants it, which we wouldnt know without being in the interviews. I dont think hell be there when we draft, but if he is I could see us going that route more now than i could before. I still dont think hell be BPA and therefore wont go to us, but I doubt he gets past New England at 31.

**The Excellector** · 03-07-2012, 09:59 AM

Alabama's Pro Day is today.

**GOTA** · 03-07-2012, 10:07 AM

Originally Posted by The Excellector

Alabama's Pro Day is today.

That's a big one. Lot of potential Ravens on that squad.

**The Excellector** · 03-07-2012, 10:08 AM

Originally Posted by GOTA

That's a big one. Lot of potential Ravens on that squad.

Can we have them all?

**The Excellector** · 03-07-2012, 10:10 AM

Arizona State's (Vontaze Burfict) Pro Day is late next week. Can he redeem himself? You know, now that I've thought about it, it might be a good thing that he does. For example, if he performs at his Pro Day the way that he was supposed to perform at the combine, he could rise back up the boards. He's probably too far gone to get back into the first, but you never know. If he can get back into the first two rounds, that pushes another player of interest down to Baltimore, whether it be in the first or second round.

**Raveninwoodlawn** · 03-07-2012, 10:14 AM

Man...My man Stephen Hill...the guy who I really thought would be a sleeper and someone we might have been able to get in the 3rd or 4th has just rocketed up the boards.

Sad that we likely won't even get one shot at him in the first now...EVERYBODY is drooling over this kid.

NFL Network draft analyst Mike Mayock was on hand for Hill’s workout. He studied all of Hill’s film before arriving for the workout. He saw the dazzling catches and the drops that frustrated the Tech fan base at times.

“I’m less concerned about his drops,” Mayock said. “He has some great hands catches. He’s a hands snatcher. He had five or six drops, two of which were in critical situations, I think against North Carolina and Clemson. That worries you a little bit, but when you watch him catch the football, it’s so natural.”

Mayock wanted to see Hill run routes, too.

“The issue with bigger receivers is just can [they] get in and out of breaks,” Mayock said. “When you watch him here, getting in and out of breaks, it’s really good. It’s raw, but you can see the ability.”

Link

In Atlanta, Georgia Tech receiver Stephen Hill is again drawing rave reviews.

Hill stood on his stellar combine marks, but tipped the scale at a solid 209 pounds during the Georgia Tech workout, six less than his combine weigh-in. Once again Hill was flawless during pass-catching drills, running clean routes and doing an exceptional job catching the ball. The buzz continues to build around Hill, as several NFL decision-makers, as well as directors of college scouting for teams around the league, openly stated this morning that he ranks as a first-round choice and should be off the board by pick 25.

Read more: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/201...#ixzz1oRqvmLva

I felt he'd blow up a little, but to fly up to the first like this?

**wickedsolo** · 03-07-2012, 10:22 AM

Originally Posted by Raveninwoodlawn

Man...My man Stephen Hill...the guy who I really thought would be a sleeper and someone we might have been able to get in the 3rd or 4th has just rocketed up the boards.

Sad that we likely won't even get one shot at him in the first now...EVERYBODY is drooling over this kid.

Link

I felt he'd blow up a little, but to fly up to the first like this?

Not surprised at all.

He has all of the things that you can't coach: Height, speed, & leaping ability.

**madmikey** · 03-07-2012, 10:28 AM

Originally Posted by Iscull

If Poe is there, I think they run their card up. Absolutely no brainer, especially when Hampton and Smith are probably done. Heyward, Poe, and Hood is a very very athletic and talented front 3 for a 3-4 defense.

Yeah they'll take Poe if he is there. Neither Hood nor Heyward is really built to play the nose (Hood could conceivably, but he's not a natural NT). Poe screams 3-4 NT. If Poe isn't there, then I'd say there's a 50% chance they take Hightower. They could also take a guard.

**GOTA** · 03-07-2012, 10:38 AM

Originally Posted by wickedsolo

Not surprised at all.

He has all of the things that you can't coach: Height, speed, & leaping ability.

He still has a way to go with the things you can coach. Doesn't mean he won't get there but I don't see him as being ready as a rookie.

**The Excellector** · 03-07-2012, 11:02 AM

Hill is benefiting from the previous success of Georgia Tech WRs. I'm not saying that to criticize him though.

**The Excellector** · 03-07-2012, 11:03 AM

Here is the real question. We all think that if Upshaw falls to 29 or if Hightower falls to 29, the Ravens will take them.

If Stephen Hill is there at 29, do the Ravens take him?

**Carey** · 03-07-2012, 11:17 AM

Originally Posted by Raveninwoodlawn

Man...My man Stephen Hill...the guy who I really thought would be a sleeper and someone we might have been able to get in the 3rd or 4th has just rocketed up the boards.

Sad that we likely won't even get one shot at him in the first now...EVERYBODY is drooling over this kid.

Link

I felt he'd blow up a little, but to fly up to the first like this?

You did call it first

....I thought he looked excellent on Path to the Draft in the clips they showed. He got in and out of breaks a bit quicker then i thought and he's a hands catcher. Im def sold on first round now, the problem is he probably wont make it to 29 now and we arent really in the position to trade up at this point.

**Carey** · 03-07-2012, 11:20 AM

Originally Posted by The Excellector

Here is the real question. We all think that if Upshaw falls to 29 or if Hightower falls to 29, the Ravens will take them.

If Stephen Hill is there at 29, do the Ravens take him?

After what i saw yesterday i think if Hill makes it to 29 there is no doubt in my mind the Ravens take him. His ability could change the entire dynamic of this offense and make opposing DC's defense this team differently if he pans out. He'd also be in a great spot to not be thrust into doing too much too soon. He could play to hsi strengths while he learns the nuances of a pro passing game.

**Carey** · 03-07-2012, 11:30 AM

Originally Posted by Iscull

If Poe is there, I think they run their card up. Absolutely no brainer, especially when Hampton and Smith are probably done. Heyward, Poe, and Hood is a very very athletic and talented front 3 for a 3-4 defense.

Yea i think they def take Poe, i actually mocked him to Pittsburgh. I know he had a great combine physically but i've heard complaints of an inconsistent motor, not great instincts, and he's more of a 1 gapper then a NT. I do see Pittsburgh as a team that would feel like they can mold him.

**GOTA** · 03-07-2012, 11:43 AM

Originally Posted by The Excellector

Here is the real question. We all think that if Upshaw falls to 29 or if Hightower falls to 29, the Ravens will take them.

If Stephen Hill is there at 29, do the Ravens take him?

I've heard multiple 'experts' say that this is a weak draft. Pat Kirwin said that at the Combine most scouts told him there were maybe 16 players with a 1st round grade but a lot with a 2nd round grade. He feels that will make some of the BPA teams at the bottom of round 1 look more towards need since there just won't be those quality guys falling.

I would think they would go for Upshaw first because he is absolutely one of those 16 1st round graded players. Ozzie is always talking pass rush and Upshaw can do more than just that. Short of failing a drug test there is no way that Upshaw is there at 29.

Hightower or Hill would be close. Hightower is more of a sure thing but it is a passing league. I don't see Boldin here in 2013. That could push them towards the WR this draft.

**The Excellector** · 03-07-2012, 11:46 AM

The Ravens need height, they need another deep threat and they need somebody that can catch. Hill is used to run blocking, presents another red zone threat and would only be asked to run more of the vertical routes anyway. If there is a WR project to take a chance on that early, he would be the guy.

**D-RavedUp5-27-52-20** · 03-07-2012, 12:27 PM

Originally Posted by The Excellector

The Ravens need height, they need another deep threat and they need somebody that can catch. Hill is used to run blocking, presents another red zone threat and would only be asked to run more of the vertical routes anyway. If there is a WR project to take a chance on that early, he would be the guy.

That's true, but I doubt Hill will immediately impact. He like any other prospect is a swing or a miss. Im hoping for an O-Lineman, MLB, or trade down. If Ozzie wanted a WR im ok with that but still im not so sure if they would have an immediate impact. I rather get a vet WR in FA for less money. Hope its Meachem