Draft Prospects

**BigPlayReceiver** · 03-15-2012, 08:21 AM

Originally Posted by wickedsolo

I definitely agree and Greg Cossell even mentions that.

He was just saying that after watching tape on a lot of the prospects, Trent Richardson (in his opinion) was the best overall prospect in this draft.

Richardson, even behind a marginal NFL line, is going to be good. If he lands behind a good NFL line and/or a good NFL QB then good Lawd...watch out.

Richardson to CLE would make the "fan-of-the-game" in me weep.

**GOTA** · 03-15-2012, 09:31 AM

Originally Posted by wickedsolo

I definitely agree and Greg Cossell even mentions that.

He was just saying that after watching tape on a lot of the prospects, Trent Richardson (in his opinion) was the best overall prospect in this draft.

If Greg says it people should pay attention.

**BcRaven** · 03-15-2012, 10:20 AM

Originally Posted by wickedsolo

http://blogs.baltimoreravens.com/201...0%99s-pro-day/
Ravens scouts at Maryland's Pro-Day pay attention to RB Davin Meggett. (5'8" 220lbs).

wicked, these was a RB for the Giants, Dave Meggett, during the 1990's. Could this guy be his son? ... Bc

**Paintballguy** · 03-15-2012, 10:26 AM

Originally Posted by BcRaven

wicked, these was a RB for the Giants, Dave Meggett, during the 1990's. Could this guy be his son? ... Bc

Davin is Dave Meggett's son.

**wickedsolo** · 03-15-2012, 11:18 AM

Originally Posted by BcRaven

wicked, these was a RB for the Giants, Dave Meggett, during the 1990's. Could this guy be his son? ... Bc

Yep. David Meggett is Dave Meggett's son, although he has had very little interaction with Dave Meggett. Probably a good thing, Dave Meggett was a rather unsavory character.

**wickedsolo** · 03-15-2012, 11:18 AM

Originally Posted by GOTA

If Greg says it people should pay attention.

Absolutely.

**runrayrun27** · 03-15-2012, 06:58 PM

What's everyones opinion on Mark Barron? If we sign Mathis and resign Birk I'd much rather see us pick up someone like Brewster or Blake in the later rounds to play behind him for a year, Phillip Blake is going to be a solid centre in the future. If hightower is gone then I can only see Barron being really worth it. He's a proven player who can start right away ESPECIALLY beside Reed for a mentor. Thoughts?

**alien bird** · 03-15-2012, 08:18 PM

Originally Posted by Paintballguy

Davin is Dave Meggett's son.

He attended Surrattsville HS in PG County as well, so he's pretty much a local kid.

Dave Meggett played at Morgan State and Towson State; now he's playing for a South Carolina State Penitentiary.

**alien bird** · 03-15-2012, 08:24 PM

Originally Posted by runrayrun27

What's everyones opinion on Mark Barron? If we sign Mathis and resign Birk I'd much rather see us pick up someone like Brewster or Blake in the later rounds to play behind him for a year, Phillip Blake is going to be a solid centre in the future. If hightower is gone then I can only see Barron being really worth it. He's a proven player who can start right away ESPECIALLY beside Reed for a mentor. Thoughts?

If the Ravens feel as if they have a legitimate offensive line come draft day, then they can go a couple of ways in the draft (which is always a good thing). If the right WR receiver falls to them (like a Floyd or Hill) they can grab him, but if the right defensive player (like a Barron or Upshaw) that would be pretty sweet as well. I think the front office does a good job of getting the team pretty well situated for a draft in which they don't have to take a specific position, so Barron could be a legitimate option - especially if Zbikowski and Nakamura depart. There is always room for a playmaker and superior athlete in the defensive backfield.

**runrayrun27** · 03-16-2012, 09:21 AM

Why hasn't there been any talk about getting Tommy Streeter with our 3rd round pick. I believe we will address defence with our first two (ILB+OLB/DE). For the value of the pick Tommy Streeter offers us a 6'5 guy who ran a 4.4. A fast potential slot reciever who gives us a red zone deep threat. There are issues with his hands, but that is where the coaching comes in. You can't teach athleticism. I definitely see him as a good 3rd round WR

**GOTA** · 03-16-2012, 09:32 AM

Originally Posted by runrayrun27

Why hasn't there been any talk about getting Tommy Streeter with our 3rd round pick. I believe we will address defence with our first two (ILB+OLB/DE). For the value of the pick Tommy Streeter offers us a 6'5 guy who ran a 4.4. A fast potential slot reciever who gives us a red zone deep threat. There are issues with his hands, but that is where the coaching comes in. You can't teach athleticism. I definitely see him as a good 3rd round WR

I see Streeter going mid-2nd round for all the reasons you mentioned.

**runrayrun27** · 03-16-2012, 10:45 AM

Originally Posted by GOTA

I see Streeter going mid-2nd round for all the reasons you mentioned.

I thought that too, but do you think it will with guys like Randle, Sanu, Jeffrey, Criner and Jones being arguably better and all 5 likely being taken throughout the second. If he goes anywhere before the Ravens it'll be early 3rd to a team like the Vikings, Bills or Jags for example

**leachisabeast** · 03-16-2012, 10:53 AM

I can see Streeter being available to us in the second, but not in the third, no chance in hell. The only way we could for go him in the second and still land him, is trade up in the 3rd to get him which we have done with players before. I like Streeter, he would excell in our offensive system, he can get deep and get up and grab the ball but does struggle catching the ball too so he would probably be a good developmental player in his rookie season and wont be as good as what T Smith was in 2011, in saying that, I'm no coach so maybe he'd kill it here in his rookie season. Also John did say if they do draft any WR's, it has to be someone who can catch the ball well, it just tells me behind closed doors the whole brass are pissed about what's happened in the past two play off's where our receivers have let us down in clutch moments.

Another player I would love to get in the second that perfectly matches our offensive system is basically a bigger but slower version of T Smith in Juron Criner. I think it's 50/50 on whether or not he'd be available to us by the time we pick him at 61. Now this is certainly a guy who could catch the ball in college football, but of course whether or not he can translate that skill into the NFL remains to be seen. Anyway there is a good class of second tier WR's in this draft so I'm sure we will have some good options in the 3rd and 2nd, but with four defensive players already being lost VIA FA don't expect more than one offensive play maker to be drafted in at least the first three rounds. I can see this draft being very high on defensive players, I do think that our first round pick will be on a defensive player too.

**GOTA** · 03-16-2012, 11:34 AM

Originally Posted by runrayrun27

I thought that too, but do you think it will with guys like Randle, Sanu, Jeffrey, Criner and Jones being arguably better and all 5 likely being taken throughout the second. If he goes anywhere before the Ravens it'll be early 3rd to a team like the Vikings, Bills or Jags for example

I see a run on receivers in the 2nd round with Streeter being part of that group. Free agent wide receivers have done very well. In the new pass happy NFL wide receivers are more important than ever before. That won't put the pretty good to the 1st round, since that's who these teams signed in free agency, but it will push that next level down up to the 2nd round.

Every draft you see runs on certain positions. Teams worry about not being able to get one of the guys they like so they take him a round earlier when they see others at his spot drafted. That's why Streeter who has good physical size and skills will go with Randle and Sanu and Jeffry in round 2.

**wickedsolo** · 03-16-2012, 01:27 PM

I know that Ozzie doesn't like giving up draft picks, but the more I think about it and after looking at a lot of past drafts, I think this would be a good year to try and trade up, rather than back, and take Jonathan Martin, Riley Reiff, or David DeCastro if they were to drop into the mid teens.

**alien bird** · 03-16-2012, 01:32 PM

Originally Posted by wickedsolo

I know that Ozzie doesn't like giving up draft picks, but the more I think about it and after looking at a lot of past drafts, I think this would be a good year to try and trade up, rather than back, and take Jonathan Martin, Riley Reiff, or David DeCastro if they were to drop into the mid teens.

If they didn't have to give up their 2nd rounder I could see it. I'm not sure off hand what the cost of moving up a dozen spots would be, but giving up a #1 and #3 wouldn't be so bad - especially if they got a decent comp pick (end of 3rd or 4th) to grab another player. I would hesitate to give up a #1 and a #2, especially without a 4th rounder already.

**arnie_uk** · 03-16-2012, 01:36 PM

i want this if we can work out the rest of our oline, if we get winston and move oher to LG or we sign mathis, i would be all for giving up our 2012 1st and 2013 1st and oher/mckinnie to sweeten the deal if need be, and getting a LT. Then take a center such as blake later in the draft, then pretty much defense with every other pick.

We need atm, 2 ilbs, 1 pass rusher, at least 1 more for Dline depth, and 2 safetys.... im sure we will fill some of this out via FA, but thats just how are D needs look atm

Originally Posted by wickedsolo

I know that Ozzie doesn't like giving up draft picks, but the more I think about it and after looking at a lot of past drafts, I think this would be a good year to try and trade up, rather than back, and take Jonathan Martin, Riley Reiff, or David DeCastro if they were to drop into the mid teens.

**PalladinInNC** · 03-16-2012, 01:44 PM

Originally Posted by wickedsolo

I know that Ozzie doesn't like giving up draft picks, but the more I think about it and after looking at a lot of past drafts, I think this would be a good year to try and trade up, rather than back, and take Jonathan Martin, Riley Reiff, or David DeCastro if they were to drop into the mid teens.

Wicked,

I hear yea but it would still be cost prohibitive to move up into the mid-teens for the Ravens! The only action I hear about those 3 are that Martin might drop (why, I do not know), but that Reiff and DeCastro could both go in the first 12 picks!

If somehow Martin drops into the 20's, then it might make sense to consider. Otherwise, it looks like either Oher or McKennie for LT.

Here's one from left field: What is the status of Stafford on the Rams? He fell off big time last year and now I think you said they are trying to use him as a RT. Could a change of scenery with the Ravens trying to trade for him be cheaper than trading up into the mid-teens and could he be a good LT?

**Iscull** · 03-16-2012, 01:57 PM

Originally Posted by wickedsolo

I know that Ozzie doesn't like giving up draft picks, but the more I think about it and after looking at a lot of past drafts, I think this would be a good year to try and trade up, rather than back, and take Jonathan Martin, Riley Reiff, or David DeCastro if they were to drop into the mid teens.

Decastro would make everyone forget who Grubbs even was. He can do everything well, and is an extremely intelligent player. Not to mention a great work ethic and team leader.

**Iscull** · 03-16-2012, 01:58 PM

Originally Posted by alien bird

If they didn't have to give up their 2nd rounder I could see it. I'm not sure off hand what the cost of moving up a dozen spots would be, but giving up a #1 and #3 wouldn't be so bad - especially if they got a decent comp pick (end of 3rd or 4th) to grab another player. I would hesitate to give up a #1 and a #2, especially without a 4th rounder already.

Maybe trade next year's draft picks, because at this rate we will get some great comp picks next year...