Draft Prospects

**Iscull** · 03-16-2012, 02:06 PM

Wouldn't Martin falling be very similar to Oher when he fell...

**arnie_uk** · 03-16-2012, 02:20 PM

Temple RB Bernard Pierce ran in the mid 4.3 to high 4.3 range in the 40-yard dash today at his Pro Day workout

**wickedsolo** · 03-16-2012, 02:52 PM

Originally Posted by arnie_uk

Temple RB Bernard Pierce ran in the mid 4.3 to high 4.3 range in the 40-yard dash today at his Pro Day workout

Wow. That is damn fast for a 220lb back.

**arnie_uk** · 03-16-2012, 03:01 PM

i was hoping to snag him in the later rounds possibly, incase we dont get Flacco done this year, or RR. we will have webb and them two as FAs, and i think RR may not be back in that scenario

Originally Posted by wickedsolo

Wow. That is damn fast for a 220lb back.

**BcRaven** · 03-16-2012, 03:19 PM

Originally Posted by Iscull

Maybe trade next year's draft picks, because at this rate we will get some great comp picks next year...

Ozzie's wise enough not to do that. He did that in the Boller trade, and after being burnt changed his tune for the better IMO. Conservative = YES, Smart = YES. Trust Mr. Newsome, he's smarter than you and I... Bc

**Tyrian** · 03-16-2012, 03:53 PM

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...s-pro-day-too/

From a first rounder to a potential UDFA ina few weeks. What a fall.

**Raveninwoodlawn** · 03-16-2012, 03:56 PM

Originally Posted by Tyrian

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...s-pro-day-too/

From a first rounder to a potential UDFA ina few weeks. What a fall.

I was about to post that.

lol at scouts feeling bad for you.

What a historic drop/fall for Burfict.

**wickedsolo** · 03-16-2012, 04:34 PM

Originally Posted by Tyrian

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...s-pro-day-too/

From a first rounder to a potential UDFA ina few weeks. What a fall.

Incredible.

**goodandfast** · 03-16-2012, 04:39 PM

Originally Posted by Tyrian

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...s-pro-day-too/

From a first rounder to a potential UDFA ina few weeks. What a fall.

Well, I look at it this way. He saved some team a lot of heartache by imploding before the draft.

**leachisabeast** · 03-16-2012, 05:07 PM

I can't believe a top 15 MLB talent can fall this far, has it ever been done in the history of the draft? Just wow, disappointed...

In other news, the Ravens are really interested in this Bernard Pierce they already had a meeting with him at the combine, and have met up with him again at his pro day. Don't rule out seeing him drafted somewhere in the mid rounds if he's available.

**GOTA** · 03-16-2012, 06:15 PM

Originally Posted by leachisabeast

I can't believe a top 15 MLB talent can fall this far, has it ever been done in the history of the draft? Just wow, disappointed...

In other news, the Ravens are really interested in this Bernard Pierce they already had a meeting with him at the combine, and have met up with him again at his pro day. Don't rule out seeing him drafted somewhere in the mid rounds if he's available.

Maybe he's not really a top 15 MLB talent

**alien bird** · 03-16-2012, 11:14 PM

Originally Posted by GOTA

Maybe he's not really a top 15 MLB talent

This.

Perhaps he was only a top 15 projection based on hype from his freshman season. Most mocks are done by guys who just have a website, not by actual scouts and GMs in the NFL. Maybe it's only the fans who thought much of him and that view was never held by the guys doing the real drafting.

**wickedsolo** · 03-19-2012, 07:16 AM

Wisconsin WR, Nick Toon, ran a 4.38 at his pro-day last week. He's 6'2" 220lbs...that's pretty fast for a guy his size. Good hands and was a good possession WR too.

He just pushed himself up into the 2nd round.

With the way things are shaping up, I think the 2nd round is going to be chock full of WR's.

**JAB1985** · 03-19-2012, 07:58 AM

Originally Posted by alien bird

This.

Perhaps he was only a top 15 projection based on hype from his freshman season. Most mocks are done by guys who just have a website, not by actual scouts and GMs in the NFL. Maybe it's only the fans who thought much of him and that view was never held by the guys doing the real drafting.

freshman season plus highlight reel is all Burfict ever was. The kid didnt seem to have the tape to back up the hype to begin with (says scouts). the rest of this is just self inflicted damage. if it was still an issue of one or the other hed probably be a mid round draft pick (and possible bust) but considering both i cant see how a team can really trust to take him. UDFA, id take a flier on him, but i wouldnt even bet on him making the team.

some team will take him though. probably Cincinnati or another cheap program with questionable characters. probably the 3rd day.

**BigPlayReceiver** · 03-19-2012, 07:58 AM

Originally Posted by wickedsolo

Wisconsin WR, Nick Toon, ran a 4.38 at his pro-day last week. He's 6'2" 220lbs...that's pretty fast for a guy his size. Good hands and was a good possession WR too.

He just pushed himself up into the 2nd round.

With the way things are shaping up, I think the 2nd round is going to be chock full of WR's.

Just started watching tape on the lad and I like the way he creates space in tight coverage. He's always looking to get an extra yard or two, which I love. This cat is Boldin's roster replacement, yet he could definitely compete for the X position right away.

Might have to move up in the 2nd to get him. Blackmon, Floyd, Wright, Hill, Givens, Sanu = 6. So will Toon be the 7th WR off the board? Or will it be Quick or Randle. Can you get the the 7th or 8th WR with 58th pick? I'm thinking that with the FA moves across the league, you can this year, but not sure.
EDIT: Forgot about Jeffrey in my top 6-8 WRs. Toon will surely be on the board at #58.

Toon (in the 2nd) and Hilton (in the 4th) = possible bro-mance right here.

...and what team couldn't use a "TOOOOOOOOOOOOON" accolade as we move the chains.

**JAB1985** · 03-19-2012, 08:04 AM

Originally Posted by arnie_uk

Temple RB Bernard Pierce ran in the mid 4.3 to high 4.3 range in the 40-yard dash today at his Pro Day workout

i dont really remember him at the combine... not sure if thats good or bad.

the guy that stood out to me was Robert Turbin, who clocked 4.50 28 reps at 5'10 225bs looked smooth running and catching the ball.

Nice article about his back story, sounds like a Raven rising up from that adversity if you ask me.
Robert Turbins Childhood and NFL dreams

I like the guy as a prospect, i believe wicked said the knock was his breakaway speed, but Ray Rice doesnt exactly have that either so im still interested in the mid rounds.

**wickedsolo** · 03-19-2012, 08:08 AM

I think Toon will go over Quick, but probably not Randle.

Quick is huge, but isn't ridiculously fast and he had a tough time at the Senior Bowl. Coming from Appalachian State he could have a tough time playing against top level competition.

I'd imagine most teams are ranking the WR's like this right now:

1. Justin Blackmon
2. Michael Floyd
3. Stephen Hill
4. Kendal Wright Jr.
5. Alshon Jeffrey
6. Rueben Randle
7. Mohammed Sanu
8. Chris Givens
9. Nick Toon
10. Joe Adams

**wickedsolo** · 03-19-2012, 08:10 AM

Originally Posted by JAB1985

i dont really remember him at the combine... not sure if thats good or bad.

the guy that stood out to me was Robert Turbin, who clocked 4.50 28 reps at 5'10 225bs looked smooth running and catching the ball.

Nice article about his back story, sounds like a Raven rising up from that adversity if you ask me.
Robert Turbins Childhood and NFL dreams

I like the guy as a prospect, i believe wicked said the knock was his breakaway speed, but Ray Rice doesnt exactly have that either so im still interested in the mid rounds.

A couple of folks had unofficial hand times in the mid 4.4's for Turbin.

I think he could go a lot higher than people think.

I have RB's ranked like this right now:

1. Trent Richardson
2. Lamar Miller
3. David Wilson
4. Robert Turbin
5. LaMichael James

**JAB1985** · 03-19-2012, 08:29 AM

Originally Posted by wickedsolo

A couple of folks had unofficial hand times in the mid 4.4's for Turbin.

I think he could go a lot higher than people think.

I have RB's ranked like this right now:

1. Trent Richardson
2. Lamar Miller
3. David Wilson
4. Robert Turbin
5. LaMichael James

I like that list and feel its probably closer to true, but I think James, Martin and now probably pierce might have jumped ahead of him. Seems like teams value that speed with their RBs. Walters says 4-6 (which i think is low but would love to get him there) and Kiper says 2 or 3 round (which is more realistic). Id probably be alright with him as high as our 2nd pick (since its late) but would prefer him in the 3rd or later. I really just like what i see and a big strong back like that would compliment Rice even if we do extend him but his catching ability would minimize his loss if we dont. Might make negotiating with rice actually easier having invested in a higher draft pick.

**wickedsolo** · 03-19-2012, 08:41 AM

Originally Posted by BigPlayReceiver

Just started watching tape on the lad and I like the way he creates space in tight coverage. He's always looking to get an extra yard or two, which I love. This cat is Boldin's roster replacement, yet he could definitely compete for the X position right away.

Might have to move up in the 2nd to get him. Blackmon, Floyd, Wright, Hill, Givens, Sanu = 6. So will Toon be the 7th WR off the board? Or will it be Quick or Randle. Can you get the the 7th or 8th WR with 58th pick? I'm thinking that with the FA moves across the league, you can this year, but not sure.
EDIT: Forgot about Jeffrey in my top 6-8 WRs. Toon will surely be on the board at #58.

Toon (in the 2nd) and Hilton (in the 4th) = possible bro-mance right here.

...and what team couldn't use a "TOOOOOOOOOOOOON" accolade as we move the chains.

I've liked Nick Toon as a prospect for a few years now. I think he's a really nice complimentary WR that has nice size. He doesn't let the ball get into his body, which is nice. Plus, he's got the genes. Daddy (Al Toon) was a pro-bowl WR for the Jets.