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    Two quarterbacks who hurt their teams by staying in



    Undoubtedly Roethlisberger will be the subject of high praise for the next week because he so selflessly went back in after spraining his ankle ... except that he hurt his team because he couldn't plant and pass the ball well, and wasn't able to do much more than hand the ball off to their crappy RB, probably costing the team a TD when they had 1st and goal from the 2 and ended up with nothing. Charlie Batch would have done better.

    Similarly, Colt McCoy put his team in good position for the winning TD, then was probably concussed by Harrison, and after Seneca Wallace throws an awesome pass to give the Browns 1st and goal from the 5, McCoy (who's been hot and cold all night *before* his likely brain injury 5 minutes earlier) stupidly returns to the game, promptly does his usual sprint-away-from-the-pressure-that-isn't-there-yet maneuver resulting in a 10+ yard loss and follows that with a ridiculous endzone INT.

    Way to go QBs! You are so courageous and tough!




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    Re: Two quarterbacks who hurt their teams by staying in

    Big Ben couldn't throw at all. Evident on his INT. Also you could tell his O-line was holding the hell out of Browns players to keep Big Ben from getting hurt.

    Dumb for him going back in, stupider for Tomlin and the team doctors to let him go back in. You're playing the Browns, who happen to not be able to stop the run. Big Ben being in the game kept Cleveland in a lot longer than they should have.




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    Re: Two quarterbacks who hurt their teams by staying in

    Steelers sending injured players back out and also claiming "concussion like symptoms" need some scrutiny by the league

    Shortcuts should not be taken




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    Re: Two quarterbacks who hurt their teams by staying in

    Quote Originally Posted by Irish Raven View Post
    Steelers sending injured players back out and also claiming "concussion like symptoms" need some scrutiny by the league

    Shortcuts should not be taken
    Ben and Troy will have Alzhimer's by the time they are 40.




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    Re: Two quarterbacks who hurt their teams by staying in

    Quote Originally Posted by SPRavensFan View Post
    Big Ben couldn't throw at all. Evident on his INT. Also you could tell his O-line was holding the hell out of Browns players to keep Big Ben from getting hurt.

    Dumb for him going back in, stupider for Tomlin and the team doctors to let him go back in. You're playing the Browns, who happen to not be able to stop the run. Big Ben being in the game kept Cleveland in a lot longer than they should have.
    Batch didn't do ANYTHING the short time he was in. As for not being able to throw at all, I guess the final TD pass to Brown was thrown by Ward???




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    Re: Two quarterbacks who hurt their teams by staying in

    Quote Originally Posted by Irish Raven View Post
    Steelers sending injured players back out and also claiming "concussion like symptoms" need some scrutiny by the league

    Shortcuts should not be taken
    There needs to be a full blown investigation no doubt.




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    Re: Two quarterbacks who hurt their teams by staying in

    Quote Originally Posted by Steelgal View Post
    Batch didn't do ANYTHING the short time he was in. As for not being able to throw at all, I guess the final TD pass to Brown was thrown by Ward???
    Batch could hand the ball off without hobbling like a cripple. They didn't need another score, the Browns stink so bad....but if you would enjoy having your star QB play injured against a bottom feeder team, your wish was granted.




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    Re: Two quarterbacks who hurt their teams by staying in

    Quote Originally Posted by Steelgal View Post
    Batch didn't do ANYTHING the short time he was in. As for not being able to throw at all, I guess the final TD pass to Brown was thrown by Ward???
    Batch had two incomplete passes and a sack. Not good, but the guy's been on the sideline all year. Even if he wouldn't have been better in the second half, he would have been able to hand the ball off more effectively than Ben would. Meanwhile, the Browns are being the Browns and desperately trying to lose the game. Pittsburgh has *at least* two scoring drives foiled by Ben's ineffectiveness (the 4th and goal when all they can do is hand off, and the INT) prior to the TD, which is mostly Brown's YAC.




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    Re: Two quarterbacks who hurt their teams by staying in

    Quote Originally Posted by myfavoriteboxer View Post
    Batch had two incomplete passes and a sack. Not good, but the guy's been on the sideline all year. Even if he wouldn't have been better in the second half, he would have been able to hand the ball off more effectively than Ben would. Meanwhile, the Browns are being the Browns and desperately trying to lose the game. Pittsburgh has *at least* two scoring drives foiled by Ben's ineffectiveness (the 4th and goal when all they can do is hand off, and the INT) prior to the TD, which is mostly Brown's YAC.
    Why they had Mendy in for all 4 plays, is beyond me. That 4 play drive had nothing to do with Ben not being able to throw. It was an idiot OC and an oline that didn't do much. Redman should have been in. He's more of a pounder than Mendy will ever be.

    Ben's interception was bad, no question there. It could have just been a bad decision though, not necessarily injury related.




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    Re: Two quarterbacks who hurt their teams by staying in

    Quote Originally Posted by Irish Raven View Post
    Steelers sending injured players back out and also claiming "concussion like symptoms" need some scrutiny by the league

    Shortcuts should not be taken
    Do you expect anything else from the Steelers? They'll turn a blind eye to the player if the player has brain damage later on in their life. They treated steroid abuse by their players the same way.




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    Re: Two quarterbacks who hurt their teams by staying in

    Quote Originally Posted by Steelgal View Post
    Why they had Mendy in for all 4 plays, is beyond me. That 4 play drive had nothing to do with Ben not being able to throw. It was an idiot OC and an oline that didn't do much. Redman should have been in. He's more of a pounder than Mendy will ever be.

    Ben's interception was bad, no question there. It could have just been a bad decision though, not necessarily injury related.
    I agree with you on both accounts. Mendenhall isn't physical enough and I think Ben's int. was more bad judgement than it was injury related. There were atleast 2 defenders around H. Miller on that play.




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    Re: Two quarterbacks who hurt their teams by staying in

    Quote Originally Posted by Steelgal View Post
    Why they had Mendy in for all 4 plays, is beyond me. That 4 play drive had nothing to do with Ben not being able to throw. It was an idiot OC and an oline that didn't do much. Redman should have been in. He's more of a pounder than Mendy will ever be.

    Ben's interception was bad, no question there. It could have just been a bad decision though, not necessarily injury related.
    except that he could not step into a throw, yes he was throwing but the ball had nothing on it. A good defense would have torn that apart. Batch would have won that game just as easily. Browns just stink. You all better hope Ben can move and throw next week.




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