What to do about Joe? (Merged)

**lovefootball** · 12-24-2011, 04:02 PM

Didn't Flacco and team just win. That's all that counts.. Should have watched the last quarter of the jets/giants game. That QB helped lose the game which gave them 8-7 for the year.

**Justlovemybirds** · 12-24-2011, 04:03 PM

Originally Posted by BleedPurple92

I'm sorry that dont include the receivers when the topic is ON JOE FLACCO.. ,What's the title of this thread again?? Please remind me.

I don't understand your logic, we're talking about joe Flacco, this is a thread about Joe Flacco. When we're talking about the receivers i'll mention that... Isn't' that how message board work?

I've said it time and time gain... We need to draft Joe another weapon, you obviously choose to only read my posts on Joe. I say it time and time again that he will be the best QB in the league at some point. You ignore those. I say time and time again that, i cant wait to see him reach his ceiling, but you ignore that too... I also said that i wouldn't be opposed to seeing what Joe can do in a new system AGAIN YOU IGNORE THAT. If there are any delusional thoughts taking place here its obviously on your end. Take a look in the mirror. This thread is about Joe, and that's who i'll talk about. Start a thread about the receivers and i'll talk about them..

You really believe with your whole being that you can criticize Joe independent of the other player's on the team? I'll say it again...........

This is a typical example of a Fantasy Football perspective.

Its even funnier that you believe that in a thread criticizing Joe that somehow mentioning the other players on the team that= making excuses for Joe. It's a TEAM sport dude damn.

**PSMD410** · 12-24-2011, 04:03 PM

Originally Posted by Justlovemybirds

Your are seriously being delusional dude...... seriously, I have no problem mentioning Joe's inconsistency's, the over throw's, throws behind the back, fumbling issues (he's leading the freaking league) and I have done it.

Meanwhile you seem incapable of being conscientious that other players have to do their job for Joe to look good. You can't ignore the fact that the team is Top-5 in the league in drops because it adds context to Joe's struggles and lets you know that its not all his fault.

Once again your the only one on this board whose imagining Joe not being held accountable by the fans on here because your the one preoccupied with laying everything on Joe's shoulders

Couldn't be said any better lol

**veritas** · 12-24-2011, 04:03 PM

Originally Posted by rharris1986

Playcalling predictable? You can't mean it! Say it ain't so! Cam would never do a thing like that.

When the Ravens lose next week and after they are one and done in the Playoffs (on the road) I hope someone in responsibility within the Ravens organization lays the blame for this crap at the feet of the individual responsible for it (and I don't mean Harbaugh or Flacco).

The Ravens do not have the necessary killer instinct on offense that it will take to win the Superbowl. They got ahead by two TDs and went into a prevent offense - and almost lost the game. How many times do you see Green Bay or New Orleans take their foot off the gas - NEVER!

Its time to see someone else call the plays

I agree totally. Then, if Flacco hasn't progressed to where he needs to be, we know we need to look elsewhere. With Cam in charge, it's tough to reach any conclusions because most guys would look sluggish running this offense.

**Ibravenfan** · 12-24-2011, 04:03 PM

Originally Posted by 52decleetzu

Yeah all that talent out there to throw to today (torrey and????), that dropped balls left and right.

What drugs are you people on?

A couple of those passes were on target. but most were behind, low, over their head or under thrown. People need to stop making excuses for Flacco being inaccurate. It's not like he didn't have plenty of time to look around.

**ActualSpamBot** · 12-24-2011, 04:04 PM

Originally Posted by zing!

Because the QB always gets the most attention win or lose?

Last I checked we won.

There are still a shit load of people bitch about Joe.

It's probably Joe's fault the Browns scored 14 to some people.

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**Irish Raven** · 12-24-2011, 04:04 PM

Originally Posted by rharris1986

When the Ravens lose next week and after they are one and done in the Playoffs (on the road)

You must be the most negative poster on this board

**goodandfast** · 12-24-2011, 04:04 PM

Originally Posted by lovefootball

Didn't Flacco and team just win. That's all that counts.. Should have watched the last quarter of the jets/giants game. That QB helped lose the game which gave them 8-7 for the year.

That's a great point. Flacco used to be compared to Sanchez, Ryan, Stafford, etc. Now he's only compared to Brady, Rodgers, Manning, and Brees.

He's left all those other young QBs in his dust.

Americanmade2012 · 12-24-2011, 04:04 PM

Originally Posted by Irish Raven

Troy Smith is available, can we get him lol

lol good one

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**RavingMad** · 12-24-2011, 04:04 PM

Originally Posted by zing!

Because the QB always gets the most attention win or lose?

Exactly. Like going 4 for 11 35yds and an int and get credit for leading us to playoff win

**Darksouleyez** · 12-24-2011, 04:06 PM

I heard the raiders would trade Kyle Boller for Flacco... I'm sure that was the source to one of the radio DJ's to 105.7 since they have the best insiders

**Raveninwoodlawn** · 12-24-2011, 04:07 PM

Originally Posted by arnie_uk

drives that started with a run on first down

7 - All of them. Tell me how my eyes are seeing what they want to see

Who fucking cares who many started with run? If you get first downs who cares? Apparently fans who look for each and every opportunity to bash Cam and have no idea what they are talking about.

The bottom line is that the run was NOT shut down at all as you tried to say, and Joe and the TE's/WR's missed on relatively easy throws on 3rd down that would have put the game away...so when you say the run got shut down, you are dead wrong and you obviously were panicking and only saw what you wanted to see.

Bottom line is no matter how "out of rhythm" the O may be, if Joe has a guy open, he has to hit him. If a pass hits Dickson on his hands, he has to catch it.

Again, if the players execute the plays, it's a laugher and there is no problem here.

**zing!** · 12-24-2011, 04:08 PM

Originally Posted by ActualSpamBot

Last I checked we won.

There are still a shit load of people bitch about Joe.

It's probably Joe's fault the Browns scored 14 to some people.

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That's my point. The QB gets the most attention no matter what happens. Some will be good and some will be bad. It is what it is.

**RavingMad** · 12-24-2011, 04:10 PM

Originally Posted by goodandfast

That's a great point. Flacco used to be compared to Sanchez, Ryan, Stafford, etc. Now he's only compared to Brady, Rodgers, Manning, and Brees.

He's left all those other young QBs in his dust.

Yeah he's way better than Stafford.

http://www.nfl.com/player/matthewstafford/79860/profile

Prime example.

**4G63** · 12-24-2011, 04:10 PM

Originally Posted by goodandfast

That's a great point. Flacco used to be compared to Sanchez, Ryan, Stafford, etc. Now he's only compared to Brady, Rodgers, Manning, and Brees.

He's left all those other young QBs in his dust.

Really? You honestly feel that way?

As I sit here typing I'm watching Matt Stafford light up the San Diego defense. Granted, he's got Megatron but who else? Can you name his other receivers without searching?

**BleedPurple92** · 12-24-2011, 04:10 PM

Originally Posted by Justlovemybirds

You really believe with your whole being that you can criticize Joe independent of the other player's on the team? I'll say it again...........

This is a typical example of a Fantasy Football perspective.

Its even funnier that you believe that in a thread criticizing Joe that somehow mentioning the other players on the team that= making excuses for Joe. It's a TEAM sport dude damn.

Lmao.. if you didn't have such good taste in music judging by your avatar.. I'd think you were a complete lunatic.

You totally missed my point.

I know Flacco isn't the only reason the offense looks bad, as you should have seen by my other 100+ posts regarding that. I KNOW THAT. Why cant you get??

You totally ignore the point i was making, i post here everyday about other factors as to why this offense isn't great, that doesn't include Flacco.. Why do you ignore that??? You obviously have made up your mind, so the're's no point.

**goodandfast** · 12-24-2011, 04:11 PM

Originally Posted by Raveninwoodlawn

Who fucking cares who many started with run? If you get first downs who cares? Apparently fans who look for each and every opportunity to bash Cam and have no idea what they are talking about.

The bottom line is that the run was NOT shut down at all as you tried to say, and Joe and the TE's/WR's missed on relatively easy throws on 3rd down that would have put the game away...so when you say the run got shut down, you are dead wrong and you obviously were panicking and only saw what you wanted to see.

Bottom line is no matter how "out of rhythm" the O may be, if Joe has a guy open, he has to hit him. If a pass hits Dickson on his hands, he has to catch it.

Again, if the players execute the plays, it's a laugher and there is no problem here.

**Jayc00** · 12-24-2011, 04:13 PM

You gotta love Baltimore fans.

**ActualSpamBot** · 12-24-2011, 04:13 PM

Originally Posted by zing!

That's my point. The QB gets the most attention no matter what happens. Some will be good and some will be bad. It is what it is.

No you said they get the most credit for wins and the most blames for losses.

But not Joe. He takes pretty much all the blame for losses, and despite throwing two TDs and us winning, he's not getting a shred of credit for a win.

In the eyes of way too many people, success is expected and therefore not worth praising, but any shortfalls are worth scrutinizing ad nauseum.

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**BleedPurple92** · 12-24-2011, 04:14 PM

Originally Posted by goodandfast

That's a great point. Flacco used to be compared to Sanchez, Ryan, Stafford, etc. Now he's only compared to Brady, Rodgers, Manning, and Brees.

He's left all those other young QBs in his dust.

Dude listen to yourself.... Come on.