I think we got the better break with the weather

Americanmade2012 · 12-31-2011, 04:35 PM

Just checked both forecast and Cleveland is getting 9 inches of snow starting early sunday morning with 50 mph winds in the mid 30's and our game is low 40's partly cloudy but windy as well. Hate to be a kicker in either game lol

**alien bird** · 12-31-2011, 05:37 PM

Originally Posted by Americanmade2012

Hate to be a kicker in either game lol

I wouldn't mind being an NFL kicker. A minimum NFL salary is $375,000.

**HoustonRaven** · 12-31-2011, 06:01 PM

Im assuming you are referring to Pitts game. How does that help us?

Bad weather takes both QB's out of the game and it becomes a ground game. The Steelers ground game and run defense is light years better than Cleveland's.

Instead of forcing Ben to throw, all he has to do now is hand off.

**Ravenswintitle** · 12-31-2011, 06:05 PM

Marino always said, if it's snowing, I'm throwing

**NOLARavenFAN** · 12-31-2011, 06:35 PM

Originally Posted by HoustonRaven

Im assuming you are referring to Pitts game. How does that help us?

Bad weather takes both QB's out of the game and it becomes a ground game. The Steelers ground game and run defense is light years better than Cleveland's.

Instead of forcing Ben to throw, all he has to do now is hand off.

Peyton Hillis?

**NOLARavenFAN** · 12-31-2011, 06:36 PM

Snow favors a mobile QB......for example Seneca Wallace.

**NOLARavenFAN** · 12-31-2011, 06:41 PM

BTW there is no heavy snow forecast, but rain, snow showers and extreme wind....

**HoustonRaven** · 12-31-2011, 06:42 PM

Originally Posted by NOLARavenFAN

Peyton Hillis?

Best defense in the league?

**camdenyard** · 12-31-2011, 06:45 PM

Hillis ran through us, and we have a better rush D than Pittsburgh.

Bad weather can't be a bad thing. Throws a whole lot of variables into the mix that would not otherwise be there. We need that in that game.

**Ravenswintitle** · 12-31-2011, 06:51 PM

Originally Posted by HoustonRaven

Best defense in the league?

Pitt is not that good against the run this year, ranked 9th

**Irish Raven** · 12-31-2011, 06:59 PM

Originally Posted by camdenyard

Hillis ran through us, and we have a better rush D than Pittsburgh.

There was bound to be some drop-off with Redding out and Arthur Jones in

**MarkS** · 12-31-2011, 07:35 PM

Originally Posted by HoustonRaven

Im assuming you are referring to Pitts game. How does that help us?

Bad weather takes both QB's out of the game and it becomes a ground game. The Steelers ground game and run defense is light years better than Cleveland's.

Instead of forcing Ben to throw, all he has to do now is hand off.

The Steelers run-defense isn't dominant this year, allowing opponents a fairly pedestrian 4.0 YPC this season. Even so, they are far superior to the Browns run-defense. I'd also argue though, that a health Peyton Hillis is better than Mendenhall/Redman. So while there's no doubt the Steelers would still have the advantage in a run-first game, The difference between Ben R. and Seneca Wallace is MUCH larger than the difference between these teams respective runing games.

Minimizing the huge advantage the Steelers have in the passing game works pretty clearly in the Browns favor. Steelers are still a clear favorite, but it narrows the gap a bit. Peyton Hillis v/ the Steelers D, the Browns at least have a chance. Seneca Wallace v/ Roethliesberger? Not gonna happen.

**NOLARavenFAN** · 12-31-2011, 07:45 PM

Except Seneca can run and Ben is gimped up....

**psuasskicker** · 12-31-2011, 07:49 PM

Tons of snow always makes it a wild-card. Couple breaks the right way and Cleveland maybe could steal one, which would sure be nice.

- C -

**MattSG** · 12-31-2011, 07:52 PM

According to NOAA's national weather service, it's not expected to snow in Cleveland until Monday. There's a chance of rain, and winds could get up to 50mph. I hope the wind affects the Steelers' passing game.

Americanmade2012 · 12-31-2011, 08:01 PM

Originally Posted by HoustonRaven

Im assuming you are referring to Pitts game. How does that help us?

Bad weather takes both QB's out of the game and it becomes a ground game. The Steelers ground game and run defense is light years better than Cleveland's.

Instead of forcing Ben to throw, all he has to do now is hand off.

I just said we got the better weather between the games

I didnt say anything about it helping the steelers or hurting them man.

**BcRaven** · 12-31-2011, 10:15 PM

Originally Posted by psuasskicker

Tons of snow always makes it a wild-card. Couple breaks the right way and Cleveland maybe could steal one, which would sure be nice.
- C -

I hope so. The Steelers stole one from the Browns already, let's turn the tables... Bc

**pickles** · 01-01-2012, 03:10 AM

Inclement weather always favors the less talented team, so that's a plus for Cle. Plus gimping around in snow or rain or slush can't be good for Ben R's ankle.

**SteelFaninBMore** · 01-01-2012, 06:55 AM

Originally Posted by camdenyard

Hillis ran through us, and we have a better rush D than Pittsburgh.

Bad weather can't be a bad thing. Throws a whole lot of variables into the mix that would not otherwise be there. We need that in that game.

Hillis also ran through Baltimore last year, but in 3 games against Pittsburgh (two last year and one this year) he's had 41, 13, and 25 yards rushing. He's not the kind of running back that typically gives Pittsburgh trouble. Don't think it'll be different today, snow or no snow.

That said, the bad weather is an equalizer. If this becomes a game of Hillis vs Mendenhall, it's going to be very little offense, and extremely low scoring, which means that any play, even just a bad punt or a decent return could make all the difference. Field position will be critical.

**52decleetzu** · 01-01-2012, 10:27 AM

Boy it is blowing HARD in Cinci. I am talking like gale force winds.

TWC says it is a steady 25mph gusting to 40 plus mph, and is warning of power outages.

Advantage Ravens.

Flacco has the arm strength to get it through the wind, and we have Ray Rice.