Grubbs Contingency Plan - Evan Mathis?

**leachisabeast** · 03-16-2012, 11:13 AM

Originally Posted by RavenScallywag

I think if the offers were equal, he'd probably stay with Philly. My guess is Baltimore is offering slightly more, so he's debating whether they move on.

If his wife lives in a city not even courting him, why would a move be all that big a deal to his wife though? Both are east coast teams, both will rarely travel to AZ, though lot more chance there in NFC.

I honestly think it's the other way around. If Philly really valued him as a player, they would have offered him a good deal by now, they have the cap room.

**sandiegosean** · 03-16-2012, 11:14 AM

generally leaving is not good, and i was wrong about it too. I thought for sure Ozzie wouldn't let him leave. Just have to pray he wants to come to the same situation in a different confrence.

**Tyrian** · 03-16-2012, 11:14 AM

Originally Posted by leachisabeast

I'm pretty sure Mathis would have a guaranteed starting place in Philly, in case you didn't know Mathis is one of the top guards in the league right now, and not a depth filling type player.

This kind of reminds me of the Leach signing, Leach gave the Texans a chance to match our offer, but they didn't and he was reportedly disgusted by it, he is now a fan favourite here in Baltimore. I just hope Mathis gets a bad offer from Philly (unless he hasn't already received an offer from them) and has no choice but to sign for us.

I did know.

However, looking at the Philly roster, they picked up a couple of guards in last year's draft including a first. While he would start, it's a bit more definite here.

People above are probably right - the Ravens are willing to offer just a little bit more.

**leachisabeast** · 03-16-2012, 11:21 AM

Originally Posted by Tyrian

I did know.

However, looking at the Philly roster, they picked up a couple of guards in last year's draft including a first. While he would start, it's a bit more definite here.

People above are probably right - the Ravens are willing to offer just a little bit more.

Yeah just saying a lot of people don't know much about him as he has only had one year to show any real evidence that he is worth a good contract in the NFL. They spent a first and 5th round pick on guards, I'd still start Mathis over a 5th round guard any day of the week.

**GOTA** · 03-16-2012, 11:27 AM

Originally Posted by leachisabeast

I honestly think it's the other way around. If Philly really valued him as a player, they would have offered him a good deal by now, they have the cap room.

I agree. Look at all the players who are still under contract that the Eagles extended early. They always make sure to lock up players they want to keep. They were probably on the fence with Mathis and now that it's decision time decided that they do still want him.

**Shas** · 03-16-2012, 11:28 AM

Decent story on Mathis from a month ago

**Dragz** · 03-16-2012, 11:40 AM

Originally Posted by arnie_uk

dedication, i like it

Thats sick... The guy looked like a cut up DE...

**Tyrian** · 03-16-2012, 12:03 PM

Reuben Frank ‏ @RoobCSN Close
Told by a league source the Eagles offered to beat Ravens' offer for Evan Mathis.

Whether they actually did or not...

**Raveninwoodlawn** · 03-16-2012, 12:08 PM

Originally Posted by Tyrian

Reuben Frank ‏ @RoobCSN Close
Told by a league source the Eagles offered to beat Ravens' offer for Evan Mathis.

Whether they actually did or not...

Certainly not good news.

Had a feeling him leaving was bad news.

**Tyrian** · 03-16-2012, 12:11 PM

Originally Posted by Raveninwoodlawn

Certainly not good news.

Had a feeling him leaving was bad news.

If the offer was high enough, Mathis would be having a press conference. It must only be a slight bit higher and the trip home will force extra jockeying until one side gives in.

It wouldn't surprise me if the Ravens are the one to give in - less room and can't see them going near the Grubbs money.

**rharris1986** · 03-16-2012, 12:11 PM

Sign Winston and move Oher to guard - problem solved.

**GOTA** · 03-16-2012, 12:20 PM

Originally Posted by Tyrian

Reuben Frank ‏ @RoobCSN Close
Told by a league source the Eagles offered to beat Ravens' offer for Evan Mathis.

Whether they actually did or not...

Ugh

On the bright side that doesn't mean the Ravens couldn't then raise their offer.

**leachisabeast** · 03-16-2012, 12:23 PM

Bad news man... we don't normally get into a bidding war either. If Philly has offered to beat our offer though, and hasn't already signed for Philly it could be better news than you'd think if he's still considering our offer at a lower price.

**Paintballguy** · 03-16-2012, 12:24 PM

Originally Posted by leachisabeast

Bad news man... we don't normally get into a bidding war either. If Philly has offered to beat our offer though, and hasn't already signed for Philly it could be better news than you'd think if he's still considering our offer at a lower price.

Could be bs to drive the RAvens offer up.

**runrayrun27** · 03-16-2012, 12:25 PM

How in the hell does Philly have this cap space??

**leachisabeast** · 03-16-2012, 12:27 PM

Originally Posted by runrayrun27

How in the hell does Philly have this cap space??

Long term deals and extensions every where, that's why we should have locked down Rice after at least 2010, and same for Flacco.

**arnie_uk** · 03-16-2012, 01:04 PM

i think this is why we are bringing winston in

Plan A - Grubbs, gone
Plan B - Mathis
Plan C - Winston RT, Oher/Reid LG

Instead of waiting on his decision, we decide to bring winston in, and see what is what, incase he got signed and then mathis says no, so were left with sfa

**TheJoeFlaccoShow** · 03-16-2012, 01:04 PM

Originally Posted by leachisabeast

Long term deals and extensions every where, that's why we should have locked down Rice after at least 2010, and same for Flacco.

No but we should just let Rice eat up 7.7 million this year and $10 million next year under the tag and then let him walk, because we don't need that cap space or him.

**GOTA** · 03-16-2012, 01:08 PM

Originally Posted by arnie_uk

i think this is why we are bringing winston in

Plan A - Grubbs, gone
Plan B - Mathis
Plan C - Winston RT, Oher/Reid LG

Instead of waiting on his decision, we decide to bring winston in, and see what is what, incase he got signed and then mathis says no, so were left with sfa

Are you willing to make Winston the highest paid RT in the NFL? That's what he said he wants. How bad do you really want to sign Winston?

**leachisabeast** · 03-16-2012, 01:13 PM

Originally Posted by GOTA

Are you willing to make Winston the highest paid RT in the NFL? That's what he said he wants. How bad do you really want to sign Winston?

I wouldn't buy too much into what was written in that journalists article about that. You would have to be a moron to be expected to play for a winning team as well as being the highest paid player in your position in the league.