OT -- Sapp is "likely" out at NFLN

**Ravenswintitle** · 04-08-2012, 07:16 PM

Originally Posted by wickedsolo

Dude was making something like 45K per month AFTER his millions earned from the NFL...and he's declaring bankruptcy...

Almost $7M in debt and hundreds of thousands behind in child support. Just gotta shake your head..

**festivus** · 04-08-2012, 07:29 PM

I couldn't begin to guess what went through his head with the Jeremy Shockey finger-pointing, but...

Right or wrong, you *cannot* out the whistleblower if you work for the employer. That was dumb, dumb, dumb. Dumb, dumb, dumb, dumb, dumb.

**404Blackbird** · 04-08-2012, 08:24 PM

Again, like a number of athletes, entertainers, even moguls like Donald Trump before him...I doubt Sapp is destitute. There's "Hollywood" broke which often involves a bankruptcy filing to restructure debt, but barely means you're $100 from being on the street, and then "broke broke" which the everyday working guy falls victim to. Don't believe the hype.

Secondly, I think Sapp may be feeling the swift, unforgiving hand of King Roger as collateral damage in Bountygate. I don't know the particulars of the Shockey situation, but I'm going to miss him on Gameday AM. He played a great straight man to Michael Irvin's over the top, church deaconesque antics...

**The Excellector** · 04-09-2012, 07:02 AM

Sapp wasn't that bad to me, his energy was a bit much sometimes, because it took away from some of the points he tried to make, in my opinion. However, I'll take him over Dukes any day. Irvin has actually come a long way as an analyst.

**Justlovemybirds** · 04-09-2012, 08:41 AM

Originally Posted by The Excellector

Sapp wasn't that bad to me, his energy was a bit much sometimes, because it took away from some of the points he tried to make, in my opinion. However, I'll take him over Dukes any day. Irvin has actually come a long way as an analyst.

That's what rubbed me the wrong way sometimes but other than he that he was decent but Dukes, with his pretentious tone in everything he says, should have been gone a while ago.

**Dave Lap** · 04-09-2012, 09:21 AM

Originally Posted by Irish Raven

Please let Jamie Dukes be next

Can't stand him

Doesn't he know you can show passion and interest without shouting and talking over people

That is EXACTLY what I can't stand about Dukes.

Warren Sapp I thought of more as a "personality" than an analyst. I enjoyed him at times.

**festivus** · 04-09-2012, 09:57 AM

Originally Posted by 404Blackbird

Secondly, I think Sapp may be feeling the swift, unforgiving hand of King Roger as collateral damage in Bountygate.

If you work for Company X, and there's a scandal at Company X, and you say publicly you think the Company X whistleblower was Y, it does not really matter who your boss is. You have put your employer in a very bad situation, litigation-wise, and you will be fired. If you said it on your national tv show, you *should* be fired.

Jeremy Shockey may as we speak be sitting at home wishing he really had been the whistleblower (assuming he wasn't...) because Sapp exposed the soft white underbelly of the NFL to Shockey's lawyers. Again, if Shockey is the actual whistleblower.

**The Excellector** · 04-09-2012, 10:00 AM

As soon as you found out that Sapp made those statements about Jeremy Shockey, you knew that Sapp was getting suspended, at the very least.

**Raven Maniac** · 04-09-2012, 10:20 AM

Originally Posted by lowrider

Sapp is Goodell's fall guy. He wants to protect the identities of future "informants", and letting Sapp go sends a strong message.

I don't buy that, Sapp was trying to be cute and it backfired on him. He released private and privileged information to the public about a person who fell under the protection of "The Whistle Blower Law" and now he'll pay the price. He never talked with anyone about his plans, he never consulted privately with lawyer or with any of the companies law professionals about the potential ramifications of releasing a protected informants name. He just took matters into his own hands with absolutely zero forethought for himself or more importantly the person who's name he was planning to release publicly on national television. That's pretty stupid IMO, oh and BTW, Goodell HAS TO PROTECT the name of any informant that comes to him with information regarding illegal or unsafe work practices and conditions within the corporation. No conspiracy theories, just the law.

**Paintballguy** · 04-09-2012, 01:27 PM

It blows my mind how these guys can blow that much cash. Give me 5 mil, and I'll never work again.

**RockGod** · 04-09-2012, 05:50 PM

Please send Marshall Faulk out the door with him. Marshall Faulk is the worst of the worst, if I have to look at that stupid smile one more time my head will explode.

**DarthCorvax** · 04-09-2012, 09:17 PM

Sapp always come across as a dick but he never fellated Brady and Manning (or offense in general, really) and always spoke up for defense, which I like. Sapp's Hunters segment on NFLN was always pretty good.

About the money, 240 pairs of Jordans? Damn! $45k/month? How the hell?

I read the article that listed Sapp's assets. 240 pairs of Jordans aren't an asset unless you can find a bunch of real hardcore collectors or you can find at least 100 people who all wear whatever size those shoes are. I hope he has some Nike stock too somewhere. At least that's nearly tripled in value since 2009.

But then again, when some people get money, they want to do all the things they never could before and that's all they know.

I also doubt that Sapp is entirely destitute. He'll have to liquidate some things. He'll end up being okay, I think. Some of his creditors may be willing to take payments over time to ensure cash flow instead of taking it all right now.

Having said that, Jamie Dukes really sucks. Irvin has become really good and while he has his Cowboys homer moments, he's usually really good.

**Raven Maniac** · 04-10-2012, 09:55 AM

Originally Posted by Ravenswintitle

Almost $7M in debt and hundreds of thousands behind in child support. Just gotta shake your head..

My son and I talk about this kind of thing (in regard to athletes) and all of the money that they make and subsequently piss away during and after their careers. It really is mind boggling when you hear about a guy like Sapp going bankrupt while making 45K a month now, plus whatever he accumulated during his pro football career.

**BcRaven** · 04-10-2012, 10:11 AM

Originally Posted by Raven Maniac

My son and I talk about this kind of thing (in regard to athletes) and all of the money that they make and subsequently piss away during and after their careers. It really is mind boggling when you hear about a guy like Sapp going bankrupt while making 45K a month now, plus whatever he accumulated during his pro football career.

Ah R M, you actually talk to your son about such things. Good dad. I also spoke to my daughter about finance when she was in college (she graduated, is working now, and takes care of her money like a squirrel does with acorns). I think (most ?) teams have financial experts talk to players during training camp. Alas, many players do not look at life through the same eyes as working people. They make a ton of money, then pay a terrible price for their careless spending. I have ZERO sympathy for them... Bc

**]<ing** · 04-10-2012, 12:10 PM

Sapp didn't bother me much.

Irvin should have his mouth surgically removed though. Dude might be the most annoying TV personality the NFL has used.

**Raven Maniac** · 04-11-2012, 07:19 PM

Originally Posted by BcRaven

Ah R M, you actually talk to your son about such things. Good dad. I also spoke to my daughter about finance when she was in college (she graduated, is working now, and takes care of her money like a squirrel does with acorns). I think (most ?) teams have financial experts talk to players during training camp. Alas, many players do not look at life through the same eyes as working people. They make a ton of money, then pay a terrible price for their careless spending. I have ZERO sympathy for them... Bc

Thanks Bc! One should be able to navigate the fact from the fancy when it comes to such things as fame, fortune and all of the pitfalls that come along with it. Professional Athletes have been elevated to an almost God Like status in today's media and to hear of a ball player (pick your sport) being paid exorbitant amounts of money, really surprises no one anymore. But everyone still flinches in disbelief when they hear how they ran through those millions like so much loose change at the bottom of a hobo's pocket. I too have zero sympathy for them, because if you are stupid enough to blow a fortune on random items like sneakers and strippers then you should never have been blessed with those $$$$ in the first place. I'll get off of my soapbox now!

**inexplicable** · 04-12-2012, 08:58 AM

This has genuinely saddened me. Sapp wasn't a great analyst, he tended to over exaggerate small factors (like when he claimed the Steelers were "old" and "done" after week 1 of 2011) and strayed into cliches too often but he genuinely made me smile and laugh. I don't watch NFLN purely to be informed or to hear engaging debates, I also want to enjoy myself and laugh. I'll miss Sapp and his ridiculous facial contortions when addressing the camera and his giggling with Deion and Michael Irvin.

And good luck to him in the future, I hope he gets his finances sorted out and turns everything around.