Ray Lewis to be Subpoenaed

**HoustonRaven** · 04-16-2012, 06:38 PM

Pretty vague as to what or why he's being subpoenaed.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...trial/related/

Shady for Webster to say the least. Curious as to what Ray's connection may be.

**festivus** · 04-16-2012, 07:05 PM

Complete shots in the dark:

1. Webster's attorney is considering the possibility that his client may testify. In which case Webster will be cross examined and one feature of that cross examination will be that Webster's statement is inconsistent with some things that Webster has said in the past. In which case it might be helpful to have a witness available to testify that Webster did, in the past, give the same version of events he's giving now.

2. Webster's attorney is hoping that the stars will align in such a way that Lewis could testify that Webster would never do such a thing. Testimony like that is admissible only if the stars align perfectly, but hey, it can happen.

**Ravenswintitle** · 04-16-2012, 08:59 PM

the opening was a bit of a cheap shot at Ray but I'm clueless as to why he would be subpoenaed

**TheJoeFlaccoShow** · 04-16-2012, 09:18 PM

Webster was born in Miami, attended the U right after Ray left. They never played together, Ray was drafted in 1996 and Webster was a freshman in 1997.

That is the connection, maybe they are hoping to use Ray as a character witness for sentencing if it ever gets to that. Or maybe they are close and he told Ray something about this incident and they want Ray to testify about it to confirm his story.

**NC Raven** · 04-16-2012, 09:24 PM

Very odd -- they know there's a subpoena out, which they're reporting on, but they haven't actually seen a copy of it? Somebody just told them there was one, but didn't prove it by actually showing it?

Because usually, if not always, it either says on it, or on an attachment, what it is they want you to testify about, which would answer their questions about Ray's testimony.

**festivus** · 04-16-2012, 10:13 PM

At least in Maryland, you can find out who has been subpoenaed in a case by reviewing online records rather than seeing actual subpoenas. Just as official, in a way, but no paper to scan & post.

**saintmatthew** · 04-17-2012, 07:25 AM

Originally Posted by festivus

At least in Maryland, you can find out who has been subpoenaed in a case by reviewing online records rather than seeing actual subpoenas. Just as official, in a way, but no paper to scan & post.

MD Case Search. A beautiful thing. Wish more states had a similar resource.

**Shas** · 04-17-2012, 08:30 AM

Ray has a reputation for talking to a lot of players throughout the league. Perhaps they are going to ask Ray to testify that Webster made a strong denial to Ray. Which kind of sounds like hearsay, but whatever.

**HoustonRaven** · 04-17-2012, 09:14 AM

The comments were deleted for obvious reasons. Lets keep it civil here and leave the stereotypes out of the discussion.

**GOTA** · 04-18-2012, 06:34 AM

Originally Posted by Shas

Ray has a reputation for talking to a lot of players throughout the league. Perhaps they are going to ask Ray to testify that Webster made a strong denial to Ray. Which kind of sounds like hearsay, but whatever.

According to PFT Webster admitted he did have sex with the girl. The question was if it was 11:30 pm the night before her birthday or 12:30 am when she would officially be legal. Unless Ray was there looking at his watch I can't imagine why he is part of this.

**festivus** · 04-18-2012, 09:24 AM

... and if it's something like that, it would be this one:

Originally Posted by festivus

1. Webster's attorney is considering the possibility that his client may testify. In which case Webster will be cross examined and one feature of that cross examination will be that Webster's statement is inconsistent with some things that Webster has said in the past. In which case it might be helpful to have a witness available to testify that Webster did, in the past, give the same version of events he's giving now.

**highwater** · 04-18-2012, 07:42 PM

I'm perplexed about Ray being drawn into this, even as a character witness. I don't think that can help much in a case like this, unless Webster is denying ever having sex with this minor, and I don't see how Ray could testify to that. This looks like a real long shot to me.

**Ravenswintitle** · 04-25-2012, 01:44 PM

Doesn't look like Ray helped..

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...exual-conduct/

An Ohio jury has found former NFL linebacker Nate Webster guilty of four counts of unlawful sexual conduct with a minor, a conviction that could result in Webster being sentenced to up to 20 years in prison.

**HoustonRaven** · 04-25-2012, 01:46 PM

Originally Posted by Ravenswintitle

Doesn't look like Ray helped

He never testified.

**Ravenswintitle** · 04-25-2012, 02:06 PM

Originally Posted by HoustonRaven

He never testified.

was it ever clarified why he was subpeoned or what claim he was supposed to support? Just curious

**HoustonRaven** · 04-25-2012, 02:08 PM

Originally Posted by Ravenswintitle

was it ever clarified why he was subpeoned or what claim he was supposed to support? Just curious

No clue. PFT had an article a few days ago and they didn't even begin to guess as to why he would have been called.

If a rumor site has no idea, I am not going to hazard a guess either.

**Dirt1** · 04-25-2012, 02:50 PM

Is it true that the girl is Hue Jackson's daughter? I have seen that posted in a couple of places.

**TheJoeFlaccoShow** · 06-06-2012, 03:01 PM

Originally Posted by Dirt1

Is it true that the girl is Hue Jackson's daughter? I have seen that posted in a couple of places.

Webster just got 12 years.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...ex-with-minor/

This says it was an "assistant's daughter", so could be.

Former NFL linebacker Nate Webster has been sentenced to 12 years in prison for having sex with a teenage girl.

Webster was found guilty of four counts of unlawful sexual conduct with a minor in April and has been locked up since then. He was accused of having a sexual relationship with a girl when she was 15 and he was in his 30s, and of threatening to kill her and her family if she told anyone. Webster admitted he had sex with the girl but claimed it was consensual and that the sexual relationship began after she turned 16, which is the age of consent in Ohio.

The girl is the daughter of an NFL assistant coach. To preserve the victim’s privacy, neither the girl nor her father are being publicly identified.

Webster could have been sentenced to up to 20 years in prison. Prosecutors said that before the trial, he turned down a plea deal that would have sent him to prison for four years. Webster played for the Buccaneers from 2000 to 2003, for the Bengals in 2004 and 2005 and for the Broncos from 2006 to 2008.

**HKusp** · 06-06-2012, 04:28 PM

Since cases of this nature require no proof of intent, it’s unclear how Lewis could help Webster’s case, unless Lewis can create reasonable doubt on the question of whether sex occurred. On at least four occasions.

I realize that "journalism" is pretty much dead, but I though Florio was a lawyer and that most lawyers have a writing class or two. The bolding is mine of course, but incomplete sentences in what is supposed to be a "credible" news source, is that where we are now?

**Stone** · 06-06-2012, 06:06 PM

I can't stand that site anymore and, I've always thought Florio is an arrogant, condescending jerk! He and some of his cronies often speak of the Ravens/players with contempt and disdain. Actually TMZ is a more respectable site than PFT now and, I can't believe the NFL associates it self with such sensationalized, yellow rubbish? Yet, in the end money and sensationalism talks. I guess?