Under the radar prospects you'd love to see in Baltimore?

**CodyPKA** · 04-19-2012, 12:42 PM

Who are some players you really like, but aren't usually talked about as 1st or 2nd round picks?

for me:

Danny Coale. WR from VT. He doesnt have the measurables that other Wr's have, but some guys just make plays. Coale is one of those guys. Great hands, and a big time special teams contributor. He would likely be available in the 4th or 5th rounds.

Isiah Pead. RB from Cinci. Big East players often get overlooked compared to the other BCS conference players. Pead is a tough runner, who is also very dangerous catching the ball out of the backfield. Trust me when I say that the other Big East teams are happy they wont have to face him any more

Joe Adams. WR from Arky. The Ravens were reportedly interested in bringing in Ted Ginn to help to return game, but he opted to stay in San Fran. Adams is an electric player on special teams, although it remains to be seen if he can contribute as a WR in the NFL

Bruce Irvin. DE/OLB from WVU. Pure pass rush talent. terrorized Big East QB's for the past couple years.

Homer pick: Desmond Wynn. OT/OG from Rutgers. Versatile and smart guy that played everywhere on the Rutgers o-line. Impressive combine numbers showed his above average athleticism

**Raveninwoodlawn** · 04-19-2012, 01:13 PM

I think Bruce Irvin is a pretty sure bet to go in the early/mid 2nd.

One guy I really like that people aren't talking about is Nigel Bradham (LB), Brandon Hardin (S) and Adam Gettis (OG)...

**GOTA** · 04-19-2012, 01:18 PM

Nick Toon WR - Wisconsin. It would be great to draft a receiver known for catching everything. Toon has good size and nice speed. He can get down field and open because he understands that's more about moves than speed.

Brandon Taylor SS- LSU. Taylor is a playmaker. He can hit like most strong safeties but he also can knock a sure catch out of the receivers hands at the last second. Not the fastest guy but a smart player who would also be a solid special teams contributor.

Michael Egnew TE- Missouri. Egnew is another one of those Gronkowki wanna-be tight ends who could thrive in the new NFL. He seemed to drop because of a mediocre Senior Bowl but Egnew would be a nice selection in the later rounds.

Brandon Brooks G- Miami(OH) I'm pretty sure Wicked has been all over this guy to. Brooks is a freakin' monster. He 6'5 350 and ran a 40 under 5.0! I'm usually not impressed by workout numbers but this guy is so big that you have to notice. I love the idea of putting a giant next to Birk on the O-line.

Marquis Maze WR- Alabama Maze might be the only player from Alabama not to have any hype going into this draft. As a LSU fan I will tell you that Maze was real pain the ass his whole career. He has that Hines Ward like quality of always making meaningful plays in a game no matter how many balls he catches. Maze is also a very good kick returner which is something the Ravens have been looking for.

**BcRaven** · 04-19-2012, 01:22 PM

Originally Posted by GOTA

Nick Toon WR - Wisconsin. It would be great to draft a receiver known for catching everything. Toon has good size and nice speed. He can get down field and open because he understands that's more about moves than speed.

Brandon Taylor SS- LSU. Taylor is a playmaker. He can hit like most strong safeties but he also can knock a sure catch out of the receivers hands at the last second. Not the fastest guy but a smart player who would also be a solid special teams contributor.

Michael Egnew TE- Missouri. Egnew is another one of those Gronkowki wanna-be tight ends who could thrive in the new NFL. He seemed to drop because of a mediocre Senior Bowl but Egnew would be a nice selection in the later rounds.

Brandon Brooks G- Miami(OH) I'm pretty sure Wicked has been all over this guy to. Brooks is a freakin' monster. He 6'5 350 and ran a 40 under 5.0! I'm usually not impressed by workout numbers but this guy is so big that you have to notice. I love the idea of putting a giant next to Birk on the O-line.

Marquis Maze WR- Alabama Maze might be the only player from Alabama not to have any hype going into this draft. As a LSU fan I will tell you that Maze was real pain the ass his whole career. He has that Hines Ward like quality of always making meaningful plays in a game no matter how many balls he catches. Maze is also a very good kick returner which is something the Ravens have been looking for.

GOTA, you've hit on two of my personal favorites : Nick Toon (WR) and B.Brooks (OG).
I'd love to see them in the 2nd/3rd rounds (no matter who was picked where)... Bc

**The Excellector** · 04-19-2012, 01:48 PM

The 'Under the Radar' prospect that I would like to see in Baltimore is Greg Childs, the WR from the University of Arkansas. Two years ago, I felt that Greg Childs was a better WR prospect than Julio Jones. Childs was a more reliable pass catcher, while displaying more savvy and coming up with more quality plays in crucial moments of a game.

He has the size, runs a pretty good slant, is willing to go over the middle and can hold onto the ball after taking a tough hit. Although he was not completely used this way at Arkansas, he definitely has the athleticism to be a legitimate 'deep threat' at the NFL level.

Injury is the main reason why Childs will be a late round pick, with a chance to be chosen in the mid rounds. I think that Childs could be had in the fifth round and that is where I would like to see the Ravens take him.

**GOTA** · 04-19-2012, 01:54 PM

Childs has a ton of potential. I could see him being a real stud in the red zone. The key is healthy. Childs has a reputation for always being hurt. Is that really the case?

**The Excellector** · 04-19-2012, 01:57 PM

Originally Posted by GOTA

Childs has a ton of potential. I could see him being a real stud in the red zone. The key is healthy. Childs has a reputation for always being hurt. Is that really the case?

Two years ago, he had some nicks and bruises. By two years ago, I mean the year before Jones declared. The two of them seemed to be the hottest WRs out there, outside of Crabtree who came out around that time. Then, he did have one major injury.

**Thrall** · 04-19-2012, 01:58 PM

I love me some Nick Toon. I was a Dolphin fan at one time, and his dad KILLED them just about every time they played, at least that's how it seemed. Always making the tough catch for the crucial 1st down, or TD. Would love to see him in purple and black, but I don't think he's under anyone's radar.

I also like Devon Wylie from Fresno St. for the return game. Small, but fast, decent slot reciever, not afraid to go over the middle, or take a hit. Most like late rounds, or UDFA.

**BlackBirdFan** · 04-19-2012, 02:11 PM

Here's a real sleeper that fills a huge hole for the Ravens:
Ben Heenan, OG, University of Saskatchewan. He's the top rated draft prospect by the CFL. He played in the East-West Shrine Game, and dominated the US talent. A real road grader. He's 6'4" 315lbs.

As you might expect, a kid from Canada might have a web site trying to get noticed in the US:
http://benheenan.com/

**Ravens44** · 04-19-2012, 03:01 PM

How about these guys...

Juron Criner, WR, Arizona
Ladarius Green, TE/WR, La.-Lafayette
Jonathan Massaquoi, OLB, Troy
Joe Adams, WR/KR, Arkansas
Janzen Jackson, FS, McNeese State
Chase Ford, TE, Miami
Tank Carder, ILB, TCU

**Ravenswintitle** · 04-19-2012, 03:07 PM

would love to see one of the Razorback receivers; that'd be awesome

**wickedsolo** · 04-19-2012, 03:54 PM

Originally Posted by BcRaven

GOTA, you've hit on two of my personal favorites : Nick Toon (WR) and B.Brooks (OG).
I'd love to see them in the 2nd/3rd rounds (no matter who was picked where)... Bc

**alien bird** · 04-19-2012, 08:42 PM

Here are some of my past-the-first round, under the radar guys:

Brandon Hardin, FS, Oregon State (6' 3", 216)
Markelle Martin, FS, Oklahoma State (6' 1", 207)
Trumaine Johnson, CB, Montana (6' 2", 204)
Josh Norman, CB, Coastal Carolina (6' 0", 197)
Cliff Harris, CB, Oregon (5' 11", 175)

Jonathan Massaquoi, LB, Troy (6' 2", 264)
Miles Burris, LB, San Diego State (6' 2", 246)
Jacquies Smith, DE Missouri (6' 3", 253)

Juron Criner, WR, Arizona (6'3", 224)
Marvin Jones, WR, Cal (6' 2", 199)
Mohamed Sanu, WR, Rutgers (6' 2", 211)
TJ Graham, WR, North Carolina State (5' 11", 188)

Brandon Washington, G, Miami (6' 3", 320)
Senio Kelemete, G, Washington (6' 4", 307)
Kelechi Osemele, G, Iowa State (6' 6", 333)
Andrew Datko, T, Florida State (6' 6", 315)

**Iscull** · 04-19-2012, 10:22 PM

Top 5:

1. Juron Criner - Big possession WR with great hands (10.5"), leaping ability (39"), and body control. Slow 40 diminished draft stock.

2. Jared Crick - Pass rushing DE/DT, who fell due to injury. Would add great depth to d-line and give us a really talented player at a great value. Was considered a first round pick earlier in the year.

3. Bernard Pierce - Powerful RB with a rare combo of speed and size. Injuries derailed his career at Temple. If can stay healthy, would become a great compliment to Rice.

4. Cliff Harris - Playmaking stud at CB. Huge off field concerns may allow him to go undrafted. Could be a good late round flier who would solve KR/PR issues.

5. Osemele - Big powerful road grader with long arms who could dominate at LG.

**runrayrun27** · 04-19-2012, 11:15 PM

If we ended up with Osemele, Brooks or Silatou in the 2nd for LG i'd be ecstatic.

**wickedsolo** · 04-20-2012, 07:34 AM

Brandon Brooks is my top "sleeper" choice.

Defensively, I really like Tank Carder and Tavon Wilson. I'd also really love to see Ronnell Lewis and Miles Burris.

Offensively, Marvin McNutt, TJ Graham, & Tauren Poole are guys I'd really love to see.

**alien bird** · 04-22-2012, 11:12 PM

I'm starting to like the idea of Greg Childs (WR, Arkansas). The guy is a load, attacks the ball instead of waiting for it to come to him, and grabs everything with his hands.

I also wouldn't mind if they took a late round flier on Chris Greenwood (6' 1", CB, Albion). D3 player, but has some upside (and some incredible numbers reported: 4.34 in the 40 and a 43 inch vertical). He just may not be there in the 6th or 7th round.

**runrayrun27** · 04-22-2012, 11:29 PM

I think Brandon Brooks fits the team perfectly and will be there at #60, I'm PRAYING we get him. I'd like to see an OLB/DE or WR taken with pick 29, but I think the best thing to do is trade back and get someone like Sanu or Ronnell Lewis with a pick at the top of the 2nd and then get Brooks with 60.

If we took Lewis at the start of the 2nd and Brooks at the end of the 2nd than with our 3rd we can look at Toon (my facorite)Childs, Streeter, Criner (it's hard to call how the recievers will fall in this draft)

Leaving the first 3 rounds with Lewis, Brooks and Toon would have me doing cartwheels in the streets and giving out 50's to homeless people

**The Excellector** · 04-23-2012, 05:49 AM

Greg Childs, again, in my opinion, was at one point a better prospect than Julio Jones. Arkansas didn't quite use Childs the way that Alabama used Jones, but his athleticism wasn't far behind and his hands were 'noticeably' better.

**BigPlayReceiver** · 04-23-2012, 03:28 PM

I think Childs can be a player. He showed some pretty good flash in 2010. His pro day performance suggests that not only is he over his injury, but that he's actually both faster and stronger. He's a snatcher, body position guy, and more slippery after the catch than most cats his size. From what little I've seen, his boundary and cone awareness is excellent. I would not be surprised if Childs turns out to be a monumental steal when the media monkeys look back on this class in a few years.

Criner - When I watch video on him, I keep expecting him to use his body more, but he doesn't. Nor does he elevate when he has the opportunity. It's tough to teach a big fella to become more aggressive at the age of 21-22. He left some college production on the table IMO.

Toon - I want to like him and I guess that I do. Looks pretty reliable in the hands department, but dude hasn't demonstrated any route moves whatsoever that I've seen. I mean, he barely plants a foot. However, he does use his body well. Much better than Criner.

Overall, for the mid-round WRs, I like Childs, McNutt and Marv Jones the most.

McNutt has a solid body-of-work, large hands, and set-ups his routes nicely. He's a slippery YAC guy as well, and he's a leader. Watching him for 2 1/2 years (Iowa is always on ESPN), it seems that his 4.54 40time is what he might run in pads. Overall, he's a young Boldin (played QB in HS and as a Frosh), and while I know we all would like a diverse WR corps, I can't help but think that our FO likes this guy an awful lot. Could product from day 1 IMO.

MJones - huge radius, large hands, and is strong as well. His speed 4.11 20 yard time suggests that he could become a slippery, if not multi-geared route runner if he worked at it. Could contribute eventually.