Bellicheat: the Artful Draft Dodger.

**Tucker: M&T Sec 527** · 04-27-2012, 11:13 AM

No - not a dig on his "Patroitism" [sorry - pun intended]. I know he has USNA connections. Just can't help but recall 2 years back he was jumping up one place ahead of the Ravens to grab Gronkowski when the Ravens were shopping for TEs. Last night, he jumps up to grab Hightower and next thing you know Ozzie bows out of the 1st Round. Has anybody swept the Ravens' war room for video feeds? Just kidding, but just sayin'...
Bellicheat: a tough monkey when it comes to the draft.

Personal to B.B. - Lose the hoodie @ Miami [FL] this year: TOO SOON. plus it's like 80 degrees down there

**pslholder96** · 04-27-2012, 11:21 AM

Come on Man. Bill Bellicheat hired Mickey Loomis and the rest was history

As much as I hate the pats they did very well. Talk about some smooth maneuvering.

**Terpsfan82** · 04-27-2012, 11:23 AM

Originally Posted by pslholder96

Come on Man. Bill Bellicheat hired Mickey Loomis and the rest was history

As much as I hate the pats they did very well. Talk about some smooth maneuvering.

This. Seems Ozzie was asleep at the wheel. When Pittsburgh passed on Hightower he relaxed. Then Belichek swooped in and grabbed him.

**pslholder96** · 04-27-2012, 11:25 AM

Originally Posted by Terpsfan82

This. Seems Ozzie was asleep at the wheel. When Pittsburgh passed on Hightower he relaxed. Then Belichek swooped in and grabbed him.

In Ozzie's defense he knew the Pats were interested in Hightower for sure and he himself even implied that they inquired with other teams about moving up and decided to stand pat at the time because it was too expensive. Bellicheat had more ammo to pull it off.

**Terpsfan82** · 04-27-2012, 11:31 AM

Originally Posted by pslholder96

In Ozzie's defense he knew the Pats were interested in Hightower for sure and he himself even implied that they inquired with other teams about moving up and decided to stand pat at the time because it was too expensive. Bellicheat had more ammo to pull it off.

At that point you have to decide if it was worth it. I guess to him it wasn't . Meanwhile we still don't have an heir apparent to Ray Lewis. Scared money doesn't win.

**Boulderraven** · 04-27-2012, 11:40 AM

Belichick, hasn't won a SB in 7 years with Brady in a cushy division. Hightower is not fast enough in the modern NFL to play MLB and his will be a liability in pass coverage. He is way overrated. Jones is a gamble pick, he has great upside. But gave up alot to get him. Can't see Hightower running sideline to sideline in this era playing MLB with his speed. Glad Ravens didn't get him.

**Sirdowski** · 04-27-2012, 11:42 AM

Originally Posted by Terpsfan82

This. Seems Ozzie was asleep at the wheel. When Pittsburgh passed on Hightower he relaxed. Then Belichek swooped in and grabbed him.

Lol at this nonsense.

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**HoustonRaven** · 04-27-2012, 11:46 AM

Originally Posted by Terpsfan82

This. Seems Ozzie was asleep at the wheel. When Pittsburgh passed on Hightower he relaxed. Then Belichek swooped in and grabbed him.

Umm. Wow.

SMH.

**Lime in the Coconut** · 04-27-2012, 11:47 AM

Is it me or is Chandler Jones a pretty stiff pass rusher?

**alienrace** · 04-27-2012, 11:48 AM

Originally Posted by HoustonRaven

Umm. Wow.

SMH.

There's a reason I put him on the ignore list

**Ravenswintitle** · 04-27-2012, 11:48 AM

Originally Posted by Boulderraven

Belichick, hasn't won a SB in 7 years with Brady in a cushy division. Hightower is not fast enough in the modern NFL to play MLB and his will be a liability in pass coverage. He is way overrated. Jones is a gamble pick, he has great upside. But gave up alot to get him. Can't see Hightower running sideline to sideline in this era playing MLB with his speed. Glad Ravens didn't get him.

I agree but the same was said about Brandon Spikes when he ran a 5.1 (or something close to that) and he's turned out to be a good player for them.

**GOTA** · 04-27-2012, 11:49 AM

Bill was Ozzie's mentor. He didn't teach him everything though.

**Justlovemybirds** · 04-27-2012, 12:06 PM

The Patriots did do a good job last night but I personally wasn't too disappointed with not getting Hightower as I see him as being a little more talented Brandon Spikes (which is pretty good). Besides I'd rather have Bobby Wagner.

**Bhcforlife** · 04-27-2012, 12:50 PM

I wanted Hightower but not that high. I would have taken him where we were but giving up picks to move up higher to take him...nah. Don't think it has anything to do with being "asleep at the wheel"...just not the right price to pay in picks for the player.

**alien bird** · 04-27-2012, 01:00 PM

Originally Posted by Terpsfan82

At that point you have to decide if it was worth it. I guess to him it wasn't . Meanwhile we still don't have an heir apparent to Ray Lewis. Scared money doesn't win.

The myth under which you operate is that there is an heir apparent to Ray Lewis. Fact: no one is going to replace Ray Lewis. The position is changing, and maybe the Ravens know that the best way to screw up a draft is to try to find this mythical "heir apparent". Perhaps the front office is simply interested in getting the best players possible. That isn't playing scared; that's playing smart.

**Paintballguy** · 04-27-2012, 01:08 PM

I don't think the Ravens were that high on Hightower. Think about it... He's a run stopping inside linebacker whose weakness is in pass coverage. We have plenty of those. I'd rather take a pass rusher.

**Raven Maniac** · 04-27-2012, 01:17 PM

Originally Posted by Bhcforlife

I wanted Hightower but not that high. I would have taken him where we were but giving up picks to move up higher to take him...nah. Don't think it has anything to do with being "asleep at the wheel"...just not the right price to pay in picks for the player.

Yeah, this is kind of my feeling as well. I can't see Oz not assuming that NE, with all of their defensive needs wouldn't try to trade up to take Hightower. I thought last night after it happened that Hightower wasn't as coveted by the Ravens as we were lead to believe. If he was, Oz would have undoubtedly taken steps to ensure that we got him, like you said, "Right player right price." Ravens have once again stayed true to their board.

**alien bird** · 04-27-2012, 01:17 PM

Originally Posted by Paintballguy

I don't think the Ravens were that high on Hightower. Think about it... He's a run stopping inside linebacker whose weakness is in pass coverage. We have plenty of those. I'd rather take a pass rusher.

They may have their eyes on linebackers who can play pass defense, like Lavonte David, Bobby Wagner (who they had in for a visit) or Zach Brown (isn't he a local kid as well?).

**CptJesus** · 04-27-2012, 10:05 PM

Ozzie clearly said that it wasn't worth trading up to snag him. Instead, we grabbed Courtney Upshaw and Kelechi Osemele, both really solid picks. Plus, we picked up probably one of my favorite running backs in this draft.

Here's his highlight reel

He's incredibly elusive, and I have a feeling hes going to be groomed as Ray Rice's replacement.

**AirFlacco** · 04-28-2012, 09:27 AM

Yea, I was pissed about Hightower but the Squeelers passed on him when he was still on
the board and took a guard which they really needed to protect Jen. So like posted above,
I'm not sure Ozzie would have taken him.

Me thinks Ozzie taught the master a lesson and schooled him.

Last night people were saying that Upshaw is better and that's what I was reading a couple of weeks before the draft, then he fell out of the first.

Belicheat needed to improve his secondary after giving up all those yards. Joe moved on
them and missed the SB by 25 seconds with a dropped ball by you know who.

Cheating goes on since the first game or practice. In 58 Weeb Ewbanks sent his assistant
to NY to spy on the Giants practices. he got on the roof across the street from their
stadium. Weeb didn't like surprises. We played them in the regular season and he wanted
to know if they added any new plays. Winner reported there were none.

Art Donovan wrote in his book the CIA should have hired Paul Brown and Weeb. In fact
when Weeb came here just before the draft he stole Browns draft board and he was pissed
as players started coming off it to us.

One such player was HOF Raymond Berry. LOL.