2012 Draft pick - 6 (198): Tommy Streeter, WR, Miami(FL)

**Paintballguy** · 05-01-2012, 08:09 AM

Originally Posted by wickedsolo

Think BA juices?

He's not really too big. He's listed at 6'1" 225lbs. That could be done naturally especially with good genes. BA has a sick physique though. One of my friends was like 6'3" 250lbs at the peak of his cycle. lol

**TheFlacco** · 05-01-2012, 08:15 AM

Originally Posted by The Excellector

Could you go more into detail about this please?

http://www.carrollcountytimes.com/sp...9bb2963f4.html

"Those guys came in at the bowl game and watched practice. That was the time my opportunity had begun from that moment. The coaches did a great job of pushing me and trying to get the best out of me. Coach Golden does a great job of developing you on and off the field and getting you mentally tough by conditioning your mind to be a well-rounded young man."

That definitely fits Streeter's description

Streeter is deeply religious and his mother is the pastor of a Baptist church in Hollywood, Fla.

"My faith is something that's very important to me," Streeter said. "It kind of shapes and molds everything that I do. The way that I present myself in the community and the kind of person that I am is all because of my faith. My parents instilled positive things in me to make me a better man. I'm a humble servant of Christ."

**GOTA** · 05-01-2012, 08:24 AM

Streeter needs to work hard because he's not a lock to make the team despite the fan support. There are a lot of other receivers fighting for limited space. Being drafted in the 6th round does not guarantee you a roster spot. I'm hoping he earns it.

**Carey** · 05-01-2012, 08:33 AM

When you really break it all down what a win for the Ravens....here's a 6'5'' guy that can fly and if he was more polished would have went at least 3 rounds higher...or imagine if he went back to school and put together back to back productive seasons, he's possibly a first round pick. At the least he upgrades the redzone passing offense day one because of his jumpball ability. I heard previously in this thread that if he's sent deep the safety wont respect it until his productive, well thats fine, because you dont need experience to out run people. If the safety doesnt respect it he's gonna run by corners.

I still see him as the 4th WR, situational deep threat, redzone player year 1 but it gives us options, also allows Doss the oportunity to step up a validate his selection as well.

**BigPlayReceiver** · 05-01-2012, 09:47 AM

Just a nugget:

MIA(FL) got a new coaching staff, and of course, a new WR coach between the '10 and '11 seasons. Also, primary target Leonard Hankerson moved on after the '10 season, opening the door of opportunity for Streeter (hence his one season wonder type stats in '11).

**darb72** · 05-01-2012, 01:59 PM

I can't remember if I've said this or not, but Mayock said right after the pick that Streeter would be a first round pick if he had gone back for his senior season.

True enough we all know not to give 100% credibility to draft "experts" but Mayock is one of the smarter ones. I'd say next year Streeter would have a chance to be selected on the first or second day.

**Benny8444** · 05-01-2012, 02:04 PM

He will make the roster it is WAY to much of a gamble to waive him and try to put him on the PS. Do that what other WRs not one who is 6 ft 5 and can run and has SOOOO much potential. They will probably put one or two of the UDFAs on the PS and keep Streeter. I really see 6 WRs on the roster Boldin, Smith, Doss, Williams, Streeter, Unsigned Vet. David Reid will prob be on PUP then IR and will get a shot next year. Sorry but he makes the team even if he in inactive every game.

**JAB1985** · 05-01-2012, 02:12 PM

Originally Posted by Benny8444

He will make the roster it is WAY to much of a gamble to waive him and try to put him on the PS. Do that what other WRs not one who is 6 ft 5 and can run and has SOOOO much potential. They will probably put one or two of the UDFAs on the PS and keep Streeter. I really see 6 WRs on the roster Boldin, Smith, Doss, Williams, Streeter, Unsigned Vet. David Reid will prob be on PUP then IR and will get a shot next year. Sorry but he makes the team even if he in inactive every game.

exactly what i see happening.

**rharris1986** · 05-01-2012, 02:21 PM

I don't know who you think the wide receivers are competing for theRavens' receivers jobs - but after Smith and Boldin, it is Williams, Doss and Streeter.

If Reed is not on IR for all of 2012, he will not make the team.

Rodney Bradley, Phillip Livas and Patrick Williams are the ONLY other WRs on the Ravens roster.

Originally Posted by GOTA

Streeter needs to work hard because he's not a lock to make the team despite the fan support. There are a lot of other receivers fighting for limited space. Being drafted in the 6th round does not guarantee you a roster spot. I'm hoping he earns it.

**Shas** · 05-01-2012, 02:28 PM

I'm with GOTA on this one (see other thread with Streeter debate) and think that it will be difficult for Streeter to make the team.

I don't think the team is as down on Reed as fans are, and since his rehab is supposed to be going well, PUP seems more likely to me than IR.

Streeter won't be a special teams guy. So he's not going to have the advantage Reed and Williams had in getting spots. It is hard for a WR who doesn't play special teams to grab the final spot in the WR corps. He'd have to blow it out of the water in camp, and the guy is raw enough to make me think that is unlikely.

I'm not sure that they keep as many receivers this year, regardless. If Doss can contribute, I'm not sure they use Evans' spot for a receiver, rather they give it to an extra DB who contributes on special teams -- guys like Graham and Jackson.

And maybe the biggest factor, Ozzie has tended to find an eleventh hour veteran receiver in the recent past (Houshmandzadeh, Evans) and I can easily see that happening again. There is already discussion of Gabney on this board, and I am positive there will be more cuts that folks here will be in favor of signing.

**Raveninwoodlawn** · 05-01-2012, 02:31 PM

There are already 2 CB and 2 Safety spots that opened with Fox and Carr gone (for Graham and Jackson) as well as Zibby and Ruki for (Consedine and Thompson)

There is a lot of room right now for players considering we've lost so many.

**Shas** · 05-01-2012, 02:35 PM

Well, technically Foxworth was IR'd and not taking up a roster spot. So if everyone else sticks, and they keep Graham, Jackson, Constadine, and Thompson, that's one more DB than they carried last year.

**Raveninwoodlawn** · 05-01-2012, 02:37 PM

He was part of the original 53 though...he played 2 games

**bmorecareful** · 05-01-2012, 02:48 PM

Originally Posted by Shas

I'm with GOTA on this one (see other thread with Streeter debate) and think that it will be difficult for Streeter to make the team.

I don't think the team is as down on Reed as fans are, and since his rehab is supposed to be going well, PUP seems more likely to me than IR.

Streeter won't be a special teams guy. So he's not going to have the advantage Reed and Williams had in getting spots. It is hard for a WR who doesn't play special teams to grab the final spot in the WR corps. He'd have to blow it out of the water in camp, and the guy is raw enough to make me think that is unlikely.

I'm not sure that they keep as many receivers this year, regardless. If Doss can contribute, I'm not sure they use Evans' spot for a receiver, rather they give it to an extra DB who contributes on special teams -- guys like Graham and Jackson.

And maybe the biggest factor, Ozzie has tended to find an eleventh hour veteran receiver in the recent past (Houshmandzadeh, Evans) and I can easily see that happening again. There is already discussion of Gabney on this board, and I am positive there will be more cuts that folks here will be in favor of signing.

I think the latter 2 paragraphs of your post contradict the first 3 paragraphs of your post. I don't see them depending on the WR corps for ST help this year--they purposefully added Corey Graham to be a core STs player, and drafted 2 potential ST dynamos in Christian Thompson and Asa Jackson. Jackson, particularly, is a guy I think will be given every chance to win at least one, but possibly both, return spots. He was a very explosive PR/KR throughout college and adds something to the roster David Reed doesn't. Thus, as you say, I don't think they'll be particularly concerned about keeping WRs (outside of LaQuan) for ST value.

David Reed has contributed absolutely nothing on offense and there's little reason to think he ever will. I just have no good reason to believe his roster spot isn't better filled with a higher-upside player who can actually do something for us. I have the feeling that every spot on our roster is going to be precious this year (as if it isn't every year,) and I just don't see space for a guy like him. The only thing working in Reed's favor IMO is that he was a 5th rounder only 2 years ago, and giving up on a 5th rounder is a bit more difficult for teams to do unless they're just a catastrophic failure.

**Shas** · 05-01-2012, 03:05 PM

It's just funny to me how quickly we change our minds about players. Reed suddenly is a guy who has zero future value as a receiver. And Streeter is a guy who has us all floating on clouds thanks to his huge upside.

Rewind two years ago and it was Reed who had all this upside because of his incredible hands and moves after the catch.

It's just odd to me how we default to seeing the best cases scenario for draft picks before they are ever tested in the NFL, and we are ready to put players on the scrap heap the minute they are tested and don't live up to lofty expectations. It's an interesting optimism / pessimism sort of deal that we do.

It's not unlike this message board after the team loses -- all the pessimism about the team on every thread. And how we turn around the next week start printing playoff tickets after a win.

I think we tend to anoint untested players too early, and we discard tested player too quickly.

And regardless of whomever else the team added who can help on special teams, I still think they don't give the fifth WR roster spot to a rookie who is not ready to start and who is not able to contribute on special teams. Even Tandon Doss was a stretch, and he was selected 75 spots earlier than Streeter.

**JAB1985** · 05-01-2012, 03:28 PM

I think Reed has potential and the team is still high on him. DeCosta just said in his chat, that they have high hopes for both Reed and Doss to compete for that 3rd WR slot. Reed, if healthy makes this team, im just not sure he can return from a late season ACL and be effective. Look at Webb and many others, you seem to be able to comeback quickly but not necessarily at 100%. Unfortunately im getting ACL surgery thursday so ill be able to find out just how much it limits you but until then, I have to go by history and im unsure if he can make a full recovery and be an explosive player within a year. Everybody heals differently so maybe hell be fine. My worry is he does try to come back removing him from PUP consideration, and we have no option but to cut him. If Reed makes the team itll be certainly harder for Streeter to make it but im not sure all those DBs are locks either. Streeter did play STs so maybe he can use that size/speed combo to be a decent player there.

**kwothdaraven** · 05-01-2012, 03:45 PM

There is no wat they put streeter on the ps. Not someobe with his upside. He would be sbatched up in a heart beat. And no, doss was never a stretch to make the team. He was very close to beating torrey out actually

**Shas** · 05-01-2012, 04:00 PM

Funny how a guy can nearly win the #2 receiver spot, but then turn around instead and up with zero starts and zero catches on the year, no special teams contributions, and was inactive for 12 games.

My point was not that Doss was nearly put on the practice squad. My point was that Doss came in as a rookie with better credentials than Streeter, and yet he basically wasted a roster spot all year.

I'm not criticizing him, or the team for that fact, I'm just saying that despite some of the rookie success stories anyone can point to, sitting like that is far more common for rookie receivers than playing. So it's tough to do that again this year with Streeter if Doss and Williams and possibly Reed are going to be competing for the third and fourth spots.

I think we're being a little optimistic if we think a guy who fell to the sixth round is going to come in and immediately contribute like a second rounder -- what you'd want from Stephen Hill or Brian Quick. And if he doesn't live up to that we're fine with him sitting on the bench all year taking up a roster spot.

**Raveninwoodlawn** · 05-01-2012, 04:06 PM

Sorry, I never saw anything other than being a solid KR out of Reed.

Dude has been here 2 years and has yet to make a single reception. He has shown so far to be a good KR with shaky confidence issues at times. Nothing more. He has not shown to be anywhere close to the WR we all hoped he would be...he can barely get on the field and got beat out by a UDFA who had a total of 33 receptions in a pro style offense.

Are some of us too high on Streeter...probably. But if Streeter is here for 2 years without contributing anything on offense, he'd be just as disappointing as a WR as Reed has been so far.

**Shas** · 05-01-2012, 04:50 PM

Originally Posted by Raveninwoodlawn

Sorry, I never saw anything other than being a solid KR out of Reed.

Dude has been here 2 years and has yet to make a single reception. He has shown so far to be a good KR with shaky confidence issues at times. Nothing more. He has not shown to be anywhere close to the WR we all hoped he would be...he can barely get on the field and got beat out by a UDFA who had a total of 33 receptions in a pro style offense.

Are some of us too high on Streeter...probably. But if Streeter is here for 2 years without contributing anything on offense, he'd be just as disappointing as a WR as Reed has been so far.

But at least we could say Reed had value as a KR, and that's better than two years of Streeter and nothing, if that is what happens.

I'm not saying it will, but if the guy is on course to being too raw this year, then I don't think he is a huge risk to expose to the practice squad. GMs aren't going to use the logic we want to use that he was projected as high as a third round, and was a big value in the sixth round, so I need to go get him despite a preseason of film showing him as an inconsistent prospect in an NFL uniform.

I'm speculating on what we'll see from him of course. If he beats my projection, great, here's your roster spot. But if he matches my projection, I'm not going to tremble in my boots exposing him to the waiver wire to get him to the practice squad.