Jonathan Ogden will be eligible for the HOF next year. Will he get in?

**GOTA** · 05-17-2012, 07:53 AM

Originally Posted by Dade

He's a lock to get in next year. Widely considered to be one of, if not the best LT ever.

One of the best absolutely. The best is still Anthony Munoz

**Dade** · 05-17-2012, 08:00 AM

Originally Posted by GOTA

One of the best absolutely. The best is still Anthony Munoz

True...Munoz is the greatest.

**GOTA** · 05-17-2012, 08:26 AM

PFT did a piece on how crowded the 2013 ballot should be. Looking at the names though I still see no reason for JO not to get in right away. I also agree with them that Allen and Strahan will be going as well

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...owded-in-2013/

Things don’t figure to get much easier for Bill Parcells, Cris Carter, Charles Haley, Andre Reed and the other finalists who couldn’t garner enough support to join those elected to the Hall. The ballot will add several big names next year, making it certain that some of those men will miss out on enshrinement once again.

The biggest names on the list are Larry Allen, Jonathan Ogden and Michael Strahan. Allen made seven All-Pro teams during his career with the Cowboys and was a member of the All-Decade team for both the 1990s and 2000s. Ogden joined him on the latter team and made nine All-Pro teams as one of the best left tackles the game has ever seen. Strahan was also on the All-Decade team for the 2000s, holds the single-season sack record and was the 2001 NFL Defensive Player of the Year. All three men have Super Bowl rings on top of those individual accolades and seem like good bets to wind up with yellow blazers in the future.

Once you throw in Warren Sapp, John Lynch, Steve McNair and Morten Andersen and any Seniors Committee candidates, you’ve got a ballot overstuffed with players who achieved great things during their NFL careers. The lack of transparency in Hall of Fame voting makes it hard to know how close some of the near misses came to getting elected or if they were even near misses in the first place. That makes it that much more difficult to predict who might be joining Curtis Martin, Chris Doleman, Willie Roaf, Dermontti Dawson, Cortez Kennedy and Jack Butler the Hall of Fame in New Orleans this time next year.

**Dade** · 05-17-2012, 08:50 AM

Originally Posted by GOTA

PFT did a piece on how crowded the 2013 ballot should be. Looking at the names though I still see no reason for JO not to get in right away. I also agree with them that Allen and Strahan will be going as well

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...owded-in-2013/

Things don’t figure to get much easier for Bill Parcells, Cris Carter, Charles Haley, Andre Reed and the other finalists who couldn’t garner enough support to join those elected to the Hall. The ballot will add several big names next year, making it certain that some of those men will miss out on enshrinement once again.

The biggest names on the list are Larry Allen, Jonathan Ogden and Michael Strahan. Allen made seven All-Pro teams during his career with the Cowboys and was a member of the All-Decade team for both the 1990s and 2000s. Ogden joined him on the latter team and made nine All-Pro teams as one of the best left tackles the game has ever seen. Strahan was also on the All-Decade team for the 2000s, holds the single-season sack record and was the 2001 NFL Defensive Player of the Year. All three men have Super Bowl rings on top of those individual accolades and seem like good bets to wind up with yellow blazers in the future.

Once you throw in Warren Sapp, John Lynch, Steve McNair and Morten Andersen and any Seniors Committee candidates, you’ve got a ballot overstuffed with players who achieved great things during their NFL careers. The lack of transparency in Hall of Fame voting makes it hard to know how close some of the near misses came to getting elected or if they were even near misses in the first place. That makes it that much more difficult to predict who might be joining Curtis Martin, Chris Doleman, Willie Roaf, Dermontti Dawson, Cortez Kennedy and Jack Butler the Hall of Fame in New Orleans this time next year.

The voters are kind of getting back logged. Some many great players coming up in the next few years. But I like it that way. It's the Hall of Fame not the Hall of Very Good. You've got to stand head and shoulders above the crowd to get in.

**LukeDaniel** · 05-17-2012, 08:56 AM

I think Ogden is likely the 2nd best LT ever. I think his odds of getting in next year are above 80%. I wouldn't be shocked if he had to wait until year two.

**Mista T** · 05-17-2012, 08:57 AM

I am excited that we finally get a true Ravens player into the HOF. Hopefully, it happens next year, slam dunk!

Originally Posted by KidSampson

The first drafted by the Ravens. Woodson and Sharpe are already in.

I don't believe that either Woodson or Sharpe went into the HOF as Ravens players. I personally don't consider the late career rent-a-Ravens should be considered as "our" guys for purposes of NFL records and HOF. I would consider making the trek to the HOF to see JO inducted, but not for Woodson or Sharpe.

Then again, I will never go into the HOF until I see "Baltimore Colts" displays segregated from those of Irsay's current franchise!

**BOHlieve In Flacco** · 05-17-2012, 09:00 AM

Has a team ever drafted two players in the first round (in the same draft) and both ended up in the HOF?

**GOTA** · 05-17-2012, 09:07 AM

Originally Posted by BOHlieve In Flacco

Has a team ever drafted two players in the first round (in the same draft) and both ended up in the HOF?

It's rare for a team to have multiple 1st round picks in a single draft so I doubt it.

I'm pretty sure the Steelers drafted 4 Hall of Fame players in the 1974 draft and it was their first 4 selections which is even more incredible.

**B-more Ravor** · 05-17-2012, 11:01 AM

Originally Posted by Mista T

I don't believe that either Woodson or Sharpe went into the HOF as Ravens players.

Unlike MLB, players do not go into the NFL HOF as a player of an single team. They don't have to pick and a single team isn't picked for them.

They are listed by all teams they played for.

**Dade** · 05-17-2012, 11:24 AM

Originally Posted by B-more Ravor

Unlike MLB, players do not go into the NFL HOF as a player of an single team. They don't have to pick and a single team isn't picked for them.

They are listed by all teams they played for.

Thank you. I never understood how people think NFL players go into the HOF as a member of a team. All of their career accomplishments are listed, including all teams they played for.

**BcRaven** · 05-17-2012, 11:35 AM

Originally Posted by BOHlieve In Flacco

Has a team ever drafted two players in the first round (in the same draft) and both ended up in the HOF?

Don't know, but let's also give credit to the man who had the final decision on drafting them. I forget, who was he and what is he doing now? ... Bc

**OC Bob** · 05-17-2012, 12:32 PM

First ballot. You can bank on it!

**saintmatthew** · 05-17-2012, 02:14 PM

Originally Posted by BcRaven

Agreed, and I read (on more than one occasion) that JO was a cheapskate. That's really a good thing if you're a pro athlete because your career is so short. I'm sure JO is financially sound, and I am glad he is... Bc

I don't know so much a cheapskate as he doesn't have expensive pastimes. He likes golf and reading. You can do that forever for without breaking the bank I imagine.

**saintmatthew** · 05-17-2012, 02:15 PM

lol....and Janet Jackson concerts....

**stevez51** · 05-17-2012, 02:36 PM

He should be a 1st ballot HOF, unless a certain Cleveland sportswriter raises a stink about anything Ravens. Maybe they took away his vote since he was fired from the newspaper.

**Ravenboy2003** · 05-18-2012, 09:46 AM

Originally Posted by stevez51

He should be a 1st ballot HOF, unless a certain Cleveland sportswriter raises a stink about anything Ravens. Maybe they took away his vote since he was fired from the newspaper.

Grossi will have ZERO effect on whether or not Ogden gets in first ballot. Modell was already a bubble guy, and Grossi found enough people willing to sympathize with Browns fans over the way Modell left town.

Ogden can probably thank Favre for "un-retiring" the same year.. Had Favre stayed retired I think Strahan and Favre would have gone first ballot and Ogden would have probably had to wait a year or two. O-linemen have their work cut out for them getting in the HOF to begin with.. It's not a glamour position.

Warren Sapp might also steal a few votes as well..