Why Obama is winning the swing-states thus winning the electoral votes and thus winning the election.

[StingerNLG]

Galen has been awful quiet since starting this thread. Of course he would be with the latest polling now putting Romney up in Iowa and North Carolina.

Iowa I said.

Shouldn't President awesome be wiping the floor with Romney at this point?

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[AirFlacco]

OBY is only +6 ahead in PA according to Quinnipac. DEMs always win big there but his lead has shrunk there as these other states. BTW, Quinn polls mostly DEMs and he still
blew the lead.

Carvelle said the only thing keeping it close for OBY is that people have bought into
his message that Mitt is out of touch with the middle class but they are losing
voters fast with all these gaffes like the private sector is just fine and if you have
a job you're Ok. That doesn't sit will with the 350,000 people who stopped looking
for jobs.

Mitt is going on a bus tour now to dispute the out of touch slap. Look for more blown leads for the hamster.

[AirFlacco]

Get this. I had NC in Mitt's win column and even said that OBY was taking black votes
for granted especially in Ohio and Fla where Bush got 8-9% increases in the black vote
and that won the Kerry election for him.

This poll says Mitt would win 20% of the black vote in NC if the electoral vote were
tomorrow.

McCain only got 5%.

http://www.businessinsider.com/barac...arolina-2012-6


Even the Hardball guy says it doesn't look good in NC according to this PPP poll.

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sh...two-s-not-good

[AirFlacco]

His white base cracks too.


http://www.gallup.com/poll/155156/Ob...20-%20Politics

[AirFlacco]

And there goes the Jewish vote. It drops by 22% in NY which is not a swing state
but with the way OBY is losing all these voters in all the states, who knows, it
could be a swing state by the fall.

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Governm...jewish-support

And you can probably add the Polish vote dropping too after he insulted the Polish
death camps during WW2.

Also add the female vote dropping after the attack on stay at home moms.


http://www.politico.com/politico44/2...ts-117411.html

[StingerNLG]

So, do we now add Wisconsin to the Swing State mix? Romney up by 3.

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/publ...nsin_president

Wonder where the thread originator went?

[NCRAVEN]

Wonder where the thread originator went?

Searching for polls to counter these

[AirFlacco]

DEMS are in panic with these blown leads and tell OBY he has to change the message. He keeps blaming Bush
but no one is buying it.

As Wisconsin goes, so do the rest of the states.


http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/20...obama_can_lose

[NCRAVEN]

DEMS are in panic with these blown leads and tell OBY he has to change the message. He keeps blaming Bush
but no one is buying it.

As Wisconsin goes, so do the rest of the states.


http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/20...obama_can_lose

He can go around blaming Bush all he wants. While there is some truth to he inherited a mess, every President, Governor, Mayor etc. inherits something. How much of the mess we have today was inherited can be debated forever with no agreement on what's correct.

What is not debatable is that nothing has gotten better. In 3.5 years there isn't one thing that is better than when he took office.

[AirFlacco]

Could OBY be losing California's 55 electoral votes too?

That may not be as far fetched as it seems. See link and this is in a lefty wingnut
town. Same non-sightings in Selicon Valley. People are mad. People are out of work.


http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2896161/posts

[StingerNLG]

No, Obama will not lose California. They are like Maryland. No matter how bad the state gets, how many people and businesses leave or shut down, they will always dance when Dems say dance, and ask how high when the Dems say jump.

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[HoustonRaven]

I read that article too and laughed.

Obama could pull down his drawers and crap on the CA state flag and still win it.

[wickedsolo]

It's really kind of pathetic in a way that Obama isn't running away with this thing.

[NCRAVEN]

It's really kind of pathetic in a way that Obama isn't running away with this thing.

How so?

[AirFlacco]

Haven't you heard?

He's the incumbent. The economy is improving. There's more
jobs. It's Bush's fault. Mitt's a racist.

Incumbents never lose.


Fact is, he really should be winning as the incumbent because they usually win. The only thing keeping him close according to Carville is people are buying that Mitt doesn't connect to the people.

But even Rove said on TV that it's phenominal that Mitt has a +3
point lead in June.

[wickedsolo]

How so?

Because of a lot of things. AF said most of it though. Incumbant, minority vote, youth vote, "he got Bin Ladin", gas prices are falling (sort of)...etc etc etc.


Most of all - IMO - Mitt is a really lame choice and the thing just reeks of "the Reps didn't have anyone better".

I'm no Obama supporter by any stretch of the imagination, but Mitt Romney is as equally disturbing IMO. I mean, if we're really getting down to the nitty-gritty the only reason Mitt was even a viable candidate was because of his money. I see Mitt Romney and I see a puppet. I don't see a legitimate candidate who can actually get some shit done.

[NCRAVEN]

Because of a lot of things. AF said most of it though. Incumbant, minority vote, youth vote, "he got Bin Ladin", gas prices are falling (sort of)...etc etc etc.


Most of all - IMO - Mitt is a really lame choice and the thing just reeks of "the Reps didn't have anyone better".

I'm no Obama supporter by any stretch of the imagination, but Mitt Romney is as equally disturbing IMO. I mean, if we're really getting down to the nitty-gritty the only reason Mitt was even a viable candidate was because of his money. I see Mitt Romney and I see a puppet. I don't see a legitimate candidate who can actually get some shit done.

Bill Clinton disagrees with you

I was not Mitt fan mainly because I guess I listened to all the BS about him not being conservative, which most of that is about social issues, and as far as I can tell he doesn't get involved in too much.

Since he is going to be the nominee I researched him a little more. As far as how he'll govern if you actually look at his record or resume it's way better than Obama's (not like that's hard). Not that it matters in the state you'll vote in though.

[HoustonRaven]

For one, no politician gets elected unless they have a substantial amount of money backing them. So to criticize Mitt for being wealthy seems hollow. Look at the last 15 Presidents and they all come from wealth.

Second, to say that Mitt can't get shit done ignores his track record with the Olympics and transforming companies into money makers. He's only held ONE elected position. The rest of his career is a track record of financial success.

That's precisely why many Dems want Obama to stay far away from the Bain Capital narrative. They DO NOT want a side-by-side comparison between Obama and Mitt on economic terms.

[NCRAVEN]

For one, no politician gets elected unless they have a substantial amount of money backing them. So to criticize Mitt for being wealthy seems hollow. Look at the last 15 Presidents and they all come from wealth.

Second, to say that Mitt can't get shit done ignores his track record with the Olympics and transforming companies into money makers. He's only held ONE elected position. The rest of his career is a track record of financial success.

That's precisely why many Dems want Obama to stay far away from the Bain Capital narrative. They DO NOT want a side-by-side comparison between Obama and Mitt on economic terms.

That. And many of the public sector unions that support these candidates invest their pensions in Bain Capital.

I agree with your post though, after I put aside his non-involvement of social issues which somehow disqualifies him as a conservative, his record of a businessman, saving the Olympics and record as governor, with over 85% democrat legislature is somewhat decent.

[AirFlacco]

Speaking of money,Adelson, the guy who runs Vegas just
pleadged $100M to Romney saying George Soros has been
doing this for years.

Galen laughed at Mitt and Trump going to Vegas on a date the day after Wisconsin but he didn't know what for. It was to get some money from Adelson. Trump spoke to him as one billionaire to another.

Trump came thru and got the money and OBY just blew a huge
lead in Wisconsin after the Walker victory.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/stevenbe...ould-top-100m/