NBA playoffs

**JAB1985** · 06-22-2012, 08:12 AM

Originally Posted by NCRAVEN

I agree with Magic and thought the same thing before he said it, that James will maybe play more free and possibly better. I would not be surprised to see him win 2 -3 more championships over the course of his career all things being equal of course.

BUT! I am not sure Magic said James will be known as a better player than MJ. At least not the part I saw. John Barry was saying the criticism of James needs to stop and it's time to put James in the conversation as being good as MJ, Magic said no, stop. MJ dominated 6 finals, James or Kobe are not there.

Maybe I missed the part where he said he thinks he'll get there. Right now even though James is the overall best player in the league (IMO) he's not yet in the convo with MJ.

Ill have to go back and listen as i did miss some of the clip, my buddy texted me "did you hear what Magic just said?!" type text, maybe he did blow it out of proportion.

I think youre right, Jon Barry was the one that said he deserves to be in the conversation. Magic just said hell be regarded as one of the best two in NBA history. Sorry for the confusion.

IMO, hes a more complete player than MJ but its hard to compare eras. He was a good defender but relied more on jumping passing lanes than straight up defense (pipen guarded the opposing best player). wasnt as strong of a rebounder (although good for his size) or passer. Hes a better shooter and what separates him from anybody was his will to win. He was the fiercest competitor weve ever seen. as a player, i feel he lacked in some areas but he certainly made up for and distinguishes himself in that area.

I think somebody asked for one game who would you take?.. kind of made me think a little. Really depends on who hes surrounded by. If hes surrounded with just a bunch of role players, id take Magic or James, because they have the ability to make them better than they are more so than Jordan would. If they both are surrounded with other stars (pippen vs Bosh/wade) that will get theirs regardless i guess i would have to go with Jordan because his will to win and competitiveness would probably be the deciding factor.

**NCRAVEN** · 06-22-2012, 08:34 AM

Originally Posted by JAB1985

Ill have to go back and listen as i did miss some of the clip, my buddy texted me "did you hear what Magic just said?!" type text, maybe he did blow it out of proportion.

I think youre right, Jon Barry was the one that said he deserves to be in the conversation. Magic just said hell be regarded as one of the best two in NBA history. Sorry for the confusion.

No worries. Not a big deal. It's not like Magic is the final say in whose opinion is correct.

There are so many categories and qualifiers to who is the best, better etc. You'll go on forever debating it.

**JAB1985** · 06-22-2012, 08:40 AM

Originally Posted by NCRAVEN

There are so many categories and qualifiers to who is the best, better etc. You'll go on forever debating it.

thats for sure. see my addition to the previous, i even debate myself.

**NCRAVEN** · 06-22-2012, 08:41 AM

Originally Posted by JAB1985

thats for sure. see my addition to the previous, i even debate myself.

Haha. I agree with that take though. For the most part...

**pslholder96** · 06-22-2012, 10:06 AM

Props to the heat. It's always hard to discuss greatness without championships and the best player in the league and playoffs did just that. So I give all the credit in the world. Lebron has regain some of my respect back after his "the decision" debacle by showing great sportsmanship and humility after the game. Kudos to him.

**festivus** · 06-22-2012, 12:05 PM

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**alienrace** · 06-22-2012, 12:31 PM

Originally Posted by pslholder96

Props to the heat. It's always hard to discuss greatness without championships and the best player in the league and playoffs did just that. So I give all the credit in the world. Lebron has regain some of my respect back after his "the decision" debacle by showing great sportsmanship and humility after the game. Kudos to him.

Lebron had a lot of growing up to do after that ridiculous "Decision" special on ESPN, and the subsequent "prancing" debacle when the "big three" were introduced in that Miami press conference. (btw, is "big three" becoming the most overused term in the NBA vernacular or what??)

This year Lebron came of age.