Current roster overview

[Carey]

QB-Flacco,Taylor
HB-Rice,Pierce,Allen
FB-Leach
WR-Boldin,Smith,Doss,Jones,Streeter
TE-Pitta,Dickson
OT-Mckinnie,Oher,Reid
OG-Yanda,Osemele
C-Birk,Gradkowski

NT-Cody
DE-Ngata,Jones,Mcphee,Mcbean
OLB-Suggs,Kruger,Upshaw,McClellan,Kindle
ILB-Lewis,Mcclain,Ellerbe,BA
CB-Webb,Williams,Smith,Gorrer,Graham,Jackson
FS-Reed,Thompson
SS-Pollard,Considine

K-Cundiff
P-Koch
LS-Cox

These are guys that i would say are either locks or i feel confident in their ability to make the team. This will give us technically 6 spots left but actually 7 because im sure Suggs will start on PUP.

Other guys im less confident will make it but should have a very good shot to...

Laquan Williams...differing opinions on his value
Bobbie Williams...If he's healthy he's in and could start
Bryan Hall...I think he has a really good shot
David Reed...I think he goes to IR
Nigel Carr...building some early buzz in camp
Deonte Thompson...also building buzz

Other spots that could be addressed...

3rd TE...Davon Drew? Vet signing? One of the undrafted FA in camp

2nd NT...Kemoeatu? Tyson? im personally think both have a shot

Pass rush...vet 3-4 OLB? Vet D-Lineman such as Odom?


So i'll take a crack at the other 7

Bobbie Williams
Hall
Drew
Carr
Tyson
Laquan Williams
Vet pass rush insurance to be named later


It's still June so theres still alot of fluidity but i thought it would be nice for dicussion purposes and see different point of views

Thoughts? Post your predictions

[Jayc00]

LaQuan definitely makes the team as they'll carry 6 WR's imo.

[Carey]

LaQuan definitely makes the team as they'll carry 6 WR's imo.

My thinking as well but alot of people dont feel that way so thats why i put him in the category i did.

[Carey]

Actually good catch, i left Laquan out accidently, will edit...

[JustaslowZ06]

You can guarntee we'll carry at least 3 TE's, and my bet is we only carry 5 WR's, LWill will be the wildcard, if he REALLY impresses than maybe they keep 6, but he's been around for 2 years and hasn't come close to cracking the top 3 on the depth chart. My guess is they let him walk.

Reed will be PUP'd. And not sure if you have them in order, but looking at the rest I think you do, and my money is on Smith getting the nod over CWill for the #2 CB spot, granted it doesn't mea much as were in the nickle and awful lot, and the teams we play this year go 3 and 4 wide ALOT.

[Jayc00]

You can guarntee we'll carry at least 3 TE's, and my bet is we only carry 5 WR's, LWill will be the wildcard, if he REALLY impresses than maybe they keep 6, but he's been around for 2 years and hasn't come close to cracking the top 3 on the depth chart. My guess is they let him walk.

Reed will be PUP'd. And not sure if you have them in order, but looking at the rest I think you do, and my money is on Smith getting the nod over CWill for the #2 CB spot, granted it doesn't mea much as were in the nickle and awful lot, and the teams we play this year go 3 and 4 wide ALOT.

He was a rookie last year. He's also good on ST. I wouldn't put Streeter in front of him just yet before the kid even has a real pratice or plays in a preseason game.

[wickedsolo]

QB - Flacco, Taylor, Painter
RB - Rice, Allen, Pierce
FB - Leach
WR - Boldin, T. Smith, J. Jones, Doss, L. Williams, Thompson
TE - Dickson, Pitta, Drew
OT - McKinnie, Oher, Reid
OG - Yanda, B. Williams, Osemele
OC - Birk, Gradkowski

DE - McPhee, A. Jones, McBean
DT - Ngata, Cody, Kemoeatu, Jean-Baptiste
OLB - Kruger, Kindle, Upshaw
ILB - R. Lewis, McClain, Ellerbe, McClellan, Ayanbadejo, Carr
CB - Webb, C. Williams, J. Smith, C. Brown, C. Graham, Jackson
FS - Reed, Thompson
SS - Pollard, Considine

K - Cundiff
P - Koch
LS - Cox

IR - Suggs, D. Reed, Streeter, McAdoo

PS:
QB - John Brantley
RB - Damien Berry, Bobby Rainey
WR - Dorian Graham
TE - Bruce Figgins
OL - Jack Cornell, Justin Boren
DL - Ishmailly Kitchen, DeAngelo Tyson
LB - Josh Bynes
DB - Chyl Quarles
K - Justin Tucker

[Carey]

QB - Flacco, Taylor, Painter
RB - Rice, Allen, Pierce
FB - Leach
WR - Boldin, T. Smith, J. Jones, Doss, L. Williams, Thompson
TE - Dickson, Pitta, Drew
OT - McKinnie, Oher, Reid
OG - Yanda, B. Williams, Osemele
OC - Birk, Gradkowski

DE - McPhee, A. Jones, McBean
DT - Ngata, Cody, Kemoeatu, Jean-Baptiste
OLB - Kruger, Kindle, Upshaw
ILB - R. Lewis, McClain, Ellerbe, McClellan, Ayanbadejo, Carr
CB - Webb, C. Williams, J. Smith, C. Brown, C. Graham, Jackson
FS - Reed, Thompson
SS - Pollard, Considine

K - Cundiff
P - Koch
LS - Cox

IR - Suggs, D. Reed, Streeter, McAdoo

PS:
QB - John Brantley
RB - Damien Berry, Bobby Rainey
WR - Dorian Graham
TE - Bruce Figgins
OL - Jack Cornell, Justin Boren
DL - Ishmailly Kitchen, DeAngelo Tyson
LB - Josh Bynes
DB - Chyl Quarles
K - Justin Tucker

Good stuff Wicked! I think if Brantley plays even semi well it negates Painter's roster spot...The Thompson for Streeter but i wouldnt be overly suprised if that happened, still lean toward them keeping that upside in Streeter. My disagreement would be Brown over Gorrer

[wickedsolo]

Good stuff Wicked! I think if Brantley plays even semi well it negates Painter's roster spot...The Thompson for Streeter but i wouldnt be overly suprised if that happened, still lean toward them keeping that upside in Streeter. My disagreement would be Brown over Gorrer

Brown and Gorrer are a toss up right now IMO.

The reason I say Brown is because he's shown a lot of improvement (according to media write up's & interviews) from last year, he's younger, and he was a draft pick.

I like Gorrer though. He's a tough player. I'd like to see him stay with the team, but being 3 years in the league already I'm not sure he's eligible for the PS.

[Carey]

Brown and Gorrer are a toss up right now IMO.

The reason I say Brown is because he's shown a lot of improvement (according to media write up's & interviews) from last year, he's younger, and he was a draft pick.

I like Gorrer though. He's a tough player. I'd like to see him stay with the team, but being 3 years in the league already I'm not sure he's eligible for the PS.

Gotcha, if its close that logic makes sense.

[bmorecareful]

People are showing a lot of deference to Doss at this point, but the kid has a big problem--he's not on the field (sounds familiar.) He's managed to pick up another (undisclosed at this point) injury, which has held him out of minicamp. I'm not saying he doesn't make the roster, but I don't think he's head and shoulders above other guys like LaQuan at this point who are actually out there getting reps and doing work without picking up more injuries.

Apparently he looked pretty good earlier in OTAs when he was on the field running with the second team opposite LaQuan but it's conceivable he could drop down to the third team by default if Deonte Thompson or Tommy Streeter show enough to climb the depth chart a bit. He could be on the bubble at that point. I know the popular sentiment is that you gave a draft pick longer than 2 years before you cut ties, but perennially injured players can be an exception since you just don't know what they can contribute.

I hope the kid makes it, but IMO Williams, Doss, Streeter, and Thompson are competing for no more than 3 spots, more likely 2, and somebody has to be the odd man/men out. I wouldn't want to make that decision be about draft position rather than on-field contributions.

[GOTA]

It's pretty funny that we're all worried which wide receivers are are going to fill out the last couple of spots considering the fact that none of them have done much in the NFL. Check out the Patriots receiving corp. Imagine having to figure out who stays on this list:

Welker
Branch
Edleman
Slater
Stallworth
Gaffney
Lloyd
Holly
Davis
Ebert

That's 7 guys with significant NFL experience and 3 without. They're not keeping 7 receivers, Slater is a very good special teams player and not much of a WR but he does count. Anyone want to make a trade?

[B-more Ravor]

Don't forget that McBean is suspended for the first couple of games, so that will allow them to carry an additional player for those weeks and then figure it out from there.

Unfortunately, it's likely that there are going to be some more injuries that will pretty much make some of the bubble decision for them.

[wickedsolo]

There is also the possibility that they don't keep Painter.

They carried 2 last year and Tyrod had NO experience whatsoever and they felt comfortable with just carrying him.

It's quite possible that they'll let Painter go after Joe and Caldwell get on the same page. In the event that this happens then I think they'll carry Streeter or Justin Boren or Tony Wragge.

[GOTA]

There is also the possibility that they don't keep Painter.

They carried 2 last year and Tyrod had NO experience whatsoever and they felt comfortable with just carrying him.

It's quite possible that they'll let Painter go after Joe and Caldwell get on the same page. In the event that this happens then I think they'll carry Streeter or Justin Boren or Tony Wragge.

That's a good point. It did sound like the reason they got Painter was to push Tyrod. Tyrod needs to keep working his butt off to stay on this roster. Competition is a good thing.

[BcRaven]

There is also the possibility that they don't keep Painter.
They carried 2 last year and Tyrod had NO experience whatsoever and they felt comfortable with just carrying him.
It's quite possible that they'll let Painter go after Joe and Caldwell get on the same page. In the event that this happens then I think they'll carry Streeter or Justin Boren or Tony Wragge.

I don't know why you seem to be disregarding Streeter (?) I think he either makes the final 53 or is on the PS... Bc

[wickedsolo]

I don't know why you seem to be disregarding Streeter (?) I think he either makes the final 53 or is on the PS... Bc

I'm not disregarding him.

He's got 2 options, IMO:

1. He makes the final 53, but is rarely on the active roster for games much like Doss or Kindle last season.
2. He "suffers" an injury and goes on IR.

I don't see him on the practice squad at all. Some other team out there would snatch him up in a second. A 6'5" receiver with speed and upside is something that a lot of teams could absolutely target from poaching off of another team's PS.

[GOTA]

I'm not disregarding him.

He's got 2 options, IMO:

1. He makes the final 53, but is rarely on the active roster for games much like Doss or Kindle last season.
2. He "suffers" an injury and goes on IR.

I don't see him on the practice squad at all. Some other team out there would snatch him up in a second. A 6'5" receiver with speed and upside is something that a lot of teams could absolutely target from poaching off of another team's PS.

Then why didn't he go earlier in the draft? If Streeter is great in the preseason then I would agree with you. I'm not sure though that another team is going to look at him as someone they have to get for their 53 man roster. Teams like the Pats and Packers are going to have to get rid of some pretty good wide receivers. I think it's very likely that Streeter does end up on the PS for the Ravens.

[Ravens44]

Then why didn't he go earlier in the draft? If Streeter is great in the preseason then I would agree with you. I'm not sure though that another team is going to look at him as someone they have to get for their 53 man roster. Teams like the Pats and Packers are going to have to get rid of some pretty good wide receivers. I think it's very likely that Streeter does end up on the PS for the Ravens.

We hear you.
Streeter is a shot in the dark.
For every guy picked in the 6th round that makes it, hundreds are not ever heard of again.

The thing about Streeter is he has all the measureables and all on one body.
Height, size, speed.
What he doesn't have is experience and he doesn't have a reputation of having great hands.
In today's NFL, it seems you need to walk on the field and contribute right away.
Not many teams can afford to have projects at the wide receiver position when THAT and the Quarterback are the names of the game.

When the Pats took Brady, his physical measureables were rather pathetic.
But he was a winner. He had the other stuff, the intangibles.

Streeter could be great. Jimmy Graham is a great example of a player coming in, little experience, but his physical measureables took over. He is almost impossible to cover.

In my opinion, they should work Streeter and see how much he can grow in a hurry.
He does not have to come out and be that number one receiver today.
But work him into the offense to take advantage of his physical attributes to help this team where it needs help the most...in the red zone and in tough spots where a jump ball can get you a first down, or extend a drive that wins the game, or runs the clock out, or simply gets the offense out of a jam.

Right now, I see the Ravens as having at the wide receiver position, every kind of receiver except the dominant number one guy...although Torrey Smith is making some strides in that direction, he is not that big or physical.

To me, he doesn't have to be a great route runner.
Let him get down the field and show us he can catch the ball in traffic.
Get him to show he can use his physical attributes to be a mismatch and produce.
That's it. IF he shows he can do those basic things, great, and he earns a spot on the 53.
The Ravens actually have that luxury right now with Jones, Doss, Williams, and now Deonte Thompson.

[JustaslowZ06]

Streeter wouldn't make the PS, someone else would pick him up. He has all the measurables a team like the Saints, Pack, or other pass happy teams want. Pick him up and let him learn from the vets for a year and than plug him in here and there and start him next year.

I'll also go out on a limb and bet we don't carry 3 QB's and TT is the odd man out. Painter has NFL experience and has shown he can play. Taylor has a bgreat upside but doesn't fit the system Cam runs. My bet is he is released and allowed to get picked up by another team needing a QB due to injury or somewhere to backup a similar QB style. Hell I could see the Eagles picking him up because everyone knows Vick won't last a full season and they have similar playing styles. Let him go early so they can pick him up to backup Vick.