Ngata going back to old weight

**Boulderraven** · 06-30-2012, 10:45 AM

Heard on Keith Mills radio show this morning with new football coach at Poly that Haloti was interviewed in a segment felt he wore down as the season progressed and was to light. He will and already has put the weight back on. Thought losing weight was the decline in his play. You just can't drop 25-30 lbs be used to it after years and not have it effect you. It might help you or hurt you, but you never know until you play with the new size, it's risky. Especially when you had great success at your prior weight. Glad Ngata will be old self again.

**Ravenswintitle** · 06-30-2012, 11:39 AM

Didn't he just come off the best season of his career?

**leachisabeast** · 06-30-2012, 11:43 AM

Well this is a good thing as we are going to need that extra push up the middle. He was still an elite DT in the NFL in 2011, but did wear down towards the end of the season. Infact he got off to a great start and was playing at arguably his best level in his career. I think 2012 will be Ngata's year to shine and it's the perfect time for him in his prime to have that HOF making season.

Cody also had a similar problem, and is doing the same thing as Ngata, not quite getting back to his old weight of 370 odd lbs (give or take a biscuit) but getting to round 340-350 lbs. With both of them in the middle of a big defensive line, hopefully our run defense isn't going to suffer too much with the loss of Redding, Johnson, and Suggs.

Btw I heard that a few weeks back that the Ravens assistant strength and conditioning coach was fired, I don't suppose this had anything to do with Ngata and Cody, maybe he told them to lose that weight that they did, and because of the slight drop in performance towards the end of the season, this led them to fire him? That is just pure speculation on my part, but I guess it's a possible reason.

**BcRaven** · 06-30-2012, 12:32 PM

Can you imagine Ngata back up to his old playing weight, Cody in the middle, and McKinnie as the 3rd Dline man. Did someone say "Berlin Wall?" ... Bc

**leachisabeast** · 06-30-2012, 12:46 PM

Originally Posted by BcRaven

Can you imagine Ngata back up to his old playing weight, Cody in the middle, and McKinnie as the 3rd Dline man. Did someone say "Berlin Wall?" ... Bc

If you mean Brandon McKinnie, we lost him in FA, he was signed by the colts.

**BcRaven** · 06-30-2012, 12:50 PM

Originally Posted by leachisabeast

If you mean Brandon McKinnie, we lost him in FA, he was signed by the colts.

Nope, it was my feeble joke at Bryant McKinnie's weight. Brandon McKinney (note the spelling) is on the Colts roster... Bc

**leachisabeast** · 06-30-2012, 12:54 PM

Originally Posted by BcRaven

Nope, it was my feeble joke at Bryant McKinnie's weight. Brandon McKinney (note the spelling) is on the Colts roster... Bc

Ohh lol haha. In goal line situations, would it even be such a bad idea?

**Ravenswintitle** · 06-30-2012, 02:43 PM

I'm sure he knows his body and what weight he should be more than anyone. But he had a great year last year and the issue down the stretch was the deep thigh bruise he was nursing. According to the reports I've read he's only putting on 10 lbs. which is not a lot at his size

**HoustonRaven** · 06-30-2012, 03:52 PM

Originally Posted by Ravenswintitle

I'm sure he knows his body and what weight he should be more than anyone. But he had a great year last year and the issue down the stretch was the deep thigh bruise he was nursing. According to the reports I've read he's only putting on 10 lbs. which is not a lot at his size

Agreed.

I've read the same reports as well. Ten pounds for a guy his size is nothing.

**leachisabeast** · 06-30-2012, 04:20 PM

Originally Posted by HoustonRaven

Agreed.

I've read the same reports as well. Ten pounds for a guy his size is nothing.

But 10 extra lbs for a guy of that size and strength is probably a significant extra amount of work load for any interior lineman to deal with, especially when you are 20-40 pounds lighter than him. I'm looking forward to seeing how Philadelphia's under sized interior line can deal with Cody and Ngata' sheer size and strength this season, especially with their center being 280 pounds and only a second year player.

**HoustonRaven** · 06-30-2012, 04:47 PM

Originally Posted by leachisabeast

But 10 extra lbs for a guy of that size and strength is probably a significant extra amount of work load for any interior lineman to deal with, especially when you are 20-40 pounds lighter than him

Or it was few too many trips to McDonalds.

**leachisabeast** · 06-30-2012, 05:30 PM

Originally Posted by HoustonRaven

Or it was few too many trips to McDonalds.

We're not talking about Bryant McKinnie here man.

**GOTA** · 06-30-2012, 06:03 PM

Guess they feel they have enough pass rushers. That's why they wanted him to drop weight last year. I'm not so sure that the best thing for someone coming off a leg injury is to put on weight but maybe that means the leg is expected to be fine now.

**wickedsolo** · 06-30-2012, 07:28 PM

Originally Posted by GOTA

Guess they feel they have enough pass rushers. That's why they wanted him to drop weight last year. I'm not so sure that the best thing for someone coming off a leg injury is to put on weight but maybe that means the leg is expected to be fine now.

Quads/Butt are two of the places where it's easiest to put on good weight/water weight with training, so maybe it's likely that through rehabbing the leg he gained muscle in his lower body.

**Iscull** · 06-30-2012, 09:41 PM

Originally Posted by leachisabeast

But 10 extra lbs for a guy of that size and strength is probably a significant extra amount of work load for any interior lineman to deal with, especially when you are 20-40 pounds lighter than him. I'm looking forward to seeing how Philadelphia's under sized interior line can deal with Cody and Ngata' sheer size and strength this season, especially with their center being 280 pounds and only a second year player.

Agreed. Don't forget that Jason Peters is out for the season as well. I would love to see us bring the house and knock Vick down early and often.

**JAB1985** · 07-01-2012, 09:16 PM

Im mixed on it. I dont think he played bad at 340. Last year he had a great year even with the thigh bruise effecting him some what at 320-325. I can see him feeling like he lost power but thats probably more to do with the injury than the weight. Sometimes clouded judgment gets the better of someone. Personally i would have liked to seen him do another year at 325. Being used to the weight and healthy i think youd see a spike in production at the end of the year. The indifference sets in because even at 340 hell be our best player.

**pslholder96** · 07-02-2012, 10:27 AM

Haloti is still most effective at his old playing weight and perhaps the additonal weight re-added on will help him absorb injuries like this going forward. At the end of the day Haloti gets paid to occupy blockers. Any kind of pass rush from him would be a bonus. We just need guys around him to step up when he frees up the rush lanes.

**blah3** · 07-02-2012, 01:58 PM

Originally Posted by pslholder96

Haloti is still most effective at his old playing weight and perhaps the additonal weight re-added on will help him absorb injuries like this going forward. At the end of the day Haloti gets paid to occupy blockers. Any kind of pass rush from him would be a bonus. We just need guys around him to step up when he frees up the rush lanes.

Well, I am happy to hear that. IMO he seemed to lose some of his strength with the idea to be quicker. Which I think worked against him. Hopefully this is a sign the team wants him to play inside more. He is much more effective playing inside than lining up at DE.