Browns to honor Art this Sunday.

**LukeDaniel** · 09-07-2012, 02:37 PM

Originally Posted by Mista T

It would be much better to have a video montage of Art + Browns history, accompanied by extra loud narration and music. Drown out the assholes.

Lol I'm chuckling to myself about this as I think about it. All the highlights would be in black and white because that was the last time they really had anything worth remembering.

Actually, they had some darn good teams in the late 1980s, but the memories of those teams would cause even more bitterness with the Brownstain fans, because those were the last years their franchise was relevant, and because of the horrid way those seasons ended for them.

That's surely Art's fault, right?

**Cj34** · 09-07-2012, 02:41 PM

Originally Posted by bacchys

I don't blame them. I still hate Irsay and everything connected to his drunken, lying ass.

So do I. However, even with the hatred I had for him, I still wouldn't have said or done anything disrespectful during a moment of silence after his death. There are numerous people I hate but unless a person is a completely vile and disgusting human being like Hitler or Bin Laden I'm never going to revel in or enjoy a persons death or publically disrespect them. Hopefully the Cleveland fans can be decent enough to not say anything. They don't have to cheer him but to disgrace him would be truly classless and painful to his family.

**SouthSide** · 09-07-2012, 02:58 PM

Originally Posted by HoustonRaven

I hope they do try the moment of silence.

They will 100% boo, thus again showing how petty and boorish Cleveland fans really are.

And I am sick and tired of the comparison to Irsay. The only similarity is they were both owners who moved the team. After that, the facts of either case do not even sniff the test of being similar.

Another thing I never understood....the out pouring of sympathy in the NFL community and media for the "poor poor" people of Cleveland. Those bottle-throwing haters are constantly being left at the altar by someone whether it be Art Modell or LeBron James. They and their city are undesirable, and not worthy of how the media sticks up for them, much like a big brother taking up for his little brother.

I don't recall Baltimore ever getting that kind of support.

**Cj34** · 09-07-2012, 03:13 PM

Originally Posted by HoustonRaven

I hope they do try the moment of silence.

They will 100% boo, thus again showing how petty and boorish Cleveland fans really are.

And I am sick and tired of the comparison to Irsay. The only similarity is they were both owners who moved the team. After that, the facts of either case do not even sniff the test of being similar.

I agree with this 100%. The circumstances were completely different and more importantly the men were absolutely different. Look at the statements from all the current & former players and the people who worked for him. Dozens and dozens of testimonials saying how he impacted all their lives. He was a caring and kind person. Most of his players thought of him as another father. You couldn't find two people in the entire world to say anything remotely close about Irsay outside of his own family.

**Rochardrik** · 09-07-2012, 03:18 PM

Originally Posted by esmd

Some random thoughts:

- Classy move by the Browns organization assuming they decided to do this with good intentions before the league decreed that all teams should honor Art
- I'd have concerns about the fan reaction myself. Hopefully the organization and media implore the fans to take the high road and mirror the organizations show of class
- That said, how would our fanbase react if the NFL wanted to honor Irsay? Hmmmm. Yes, I know it's not exactly an apples to apples comparison, but the bottom line is Art was a major cause (though not the only cause) of a lot of heartbreak in Cleveland. Yes, the fans got a better deal there than we got here (3 yrs vs 13 yrs and kept their name and colors), but lets face it, they still got screwed by Modell and local politicians. Art certainly was't the only guilty party, but the fans there certainly didn't deserve to get caught in the middle. So I have a hard time hating on them if they voice their displeasure. Let's face it, many of us would piss on Irsay's rotting corpse if we had the chance.

BUUTT!! Would they have a new stadium if Art didn't do what he did? Their sorry asses should be kissing the ground on which he walked!

**moose10101** · 09-07-2012, 03:25 PM

Originally Posted by esmd

That said, how would our fanbase react if the NFL wanted to honor Irsay? Hmmmm. Yes, I know it's not exactly an apples to apples comparison

More like apples to horse-apples. Irsay never, ever did anything to improve the NFL or help the players or the fans. He was a drunken liar who even screwed over his own family. Modell was the ONLY elected president in NFL history, he was practically worshiped by his current and former players, and was respected by thousands of other players who know how much he did for them via the TV contracts.

A moment of silence for Irsay would go about as well as I expect the Modell moment of silence to go in Cleveland, even though Modell did more positive things for Cleveland during his 35 years there than just about any owner, in any sport, anywhere.

**Real Fan Dan** · 09-07-2012, 03:29 PM

Originally Posted by SouthSide

Another thing I never understood....the out pouring of sympathy in the NFL community and media for the "poor poor" people of Cleveland. Those bottle-throwing haters are constantly being left at the altar by someone whether it be Art Modell or LeBron James. They and their city are undesirable, and not worthy of how the media sticks up for them, much like a big brother taking up for his little brother.

I don't recall Baltimore ever getting that kind of support.

The 'outpouring of sympathy' you mention was much aided by Cleveland Plain Dealer reporter Tony Grossi, who also lobbied tirelessly to keep Art Modell out of the HOF.

Fortunately, Mr. Grossi probably won't be commenting too much about Mr. Modell's passing (in print anyways). He was taken "off the beat" this year by his editors because he tweeted that the Browns owner Mr. Lerner was "pathetic, the most irrelevant billionairre in the world" lol. Later he resigned from the paper.

http://www.cleveland.com/readers/ind...nment_was.html

Hopefully he won't be making any passionate pleas against Mr. Modell on the HOF voters board in coming years.

**DColeman** · 09-07-2012, 05:15 PM

I wondering what Signs they will be holding to be seen on TV nationwide further proving their Stately-ness.

**Corey** · 09-07-2012, 06:52 PM

Originally Posted by Admin Steve

Just heard this on Sirius NFL.

I can't imagine that's going to go well...

Yeah, thats a really bad idea. I honestly believe a statement sending condolence to his family was enough. Cleveland is a really classless town. I have no doubt that its going to get ugly. AND Modell had no connection to that franchise. HIS franchise is in Baltimore.

**xmradiodave** · 09-08-2012, 06:30 AM

The fan reaction in Cleveland will be as subtle as a wet fart in white pants.

**Section 502 Raven** · 09-08-2012, 05:09 PM

the browns cancelled at the request of the family. right deceions. the clevelandars don;t have the maturity to show their respects for modell and if they did it would be hypocritical.

**Ravenswintitle** · 09-08-2012, 09:30 PM

yeah that was the right move, you'd think they would have known it without the family having to get involved but at least they called it off.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...milys-request/