Ravens Pats game thread

**rharris1986** · 09-23-2012, 11:31 PM

Originally Posted by Uli2001

Cundiff's ghost was exorcised tonight. Tucker has "it." You know it when you see it.

Go back an look at the replay of the field goal - and you will see that the snap was bad - and the ball hit the ground in front of the holder. He recovered it and put it down - and the little extra time caused Tucker to be a little late on the kick driving it off center towards the right goal post.

If you old enough to remember - the reason the verticle part of the goal posts are 20' high is because of the 1965 phantom Green Bay Packer kick (that was bad - but called good) - that tied the game and forced it into overtime where the Colts lost. And I think they lost the Division title because of that. Because of that "field goal" the league raised the height of the posts.

**BaltoNUSCNFLChamps** · 09-23-2012, 11:34 PM

Watching the ball frame by frame it was good!

**Paintballguy** · 09-23-2012, 11:34 PM

doesnt matter now. the play wasn't reviewable either. it's a W in the books!

**Gabrosin** · 09-23-2012, 11:35 PM

Fortunate to come out of this one with a win but after the robbery in Philly I'll take it. We're on track to make 3-1 in the opening four if we can avoid a letdown on the short week.

**Uli2001** · 09-23-2012, 11:35 PM

Originally Posted by rharris1986

Go back an look at the replay of the field goal - and you will see that the snap was bad - and the ball hit the ground in front of the holder. He recovered it and put it down - and the little extra time caused Tucker to be a little late on the kick driving it off center towards the right goal post.

If you old enough to remember - the reason the verticle part of the goal posts are 20' high is because of the 1965 phantom Green Bay Packer kick (that was bad - but called good) - that tied the game and forced it into overtime where the Colts lost. And I think they lost the Division title because of that. Because of that "field goal" the league raised the height of the posts.

That was all I was concerned about on that second try, the snap and the hold. The Ravens were lucky right there. But again, the Patriots were very lucky in the AFCCG, so two can play at that game.

**bmoreravengirl** · 09-23-2012, 11:36 PM

Originally Posted by akashicrecorder

I hereby promise before everyone on this board, before whatever deity cares about football games, that I will never again switch off the TV. It's all or nothing. Our team never quit tonight, and that is admirable; they believed all the way.

I had quit, and am feeling ashamed right now, but will happily eat as much crow as anyone wants to dish out to me.

**alienrace** · 09-23-2012, 11:41 PM

Originally Posted by BaltoNUSCNFLChamps

Watching the ball frame by frame it was good!

Yeah, it was actually good by a couple of feet. Just glad the refs didn't blow it and call it no good, being that it's not reviewable.

**Kyle Cactus** · 09-23-2012, 11:42 PM

I don't think you could be blamed for quitting. It was hard to see a victory down by 2 scores with a defense that was playing poorly, but somehow they got some stops at the end. I guess that's what good teams do.

**ActualSpamBot** · 09-23-2012, 11:45 PM

When we went down by 13 I logged off the forum. I still believed but this thread was crushing me. Now I wish I had stayed and insisted we would win, then I would really be gloating right now.
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**Uli2001** · 09-23-2012, 11:46 PM

I watched the whole game, and felt that as long as they kept it within two scores, the crowd would take over in the end, and they would pull it off. The Patriots tired at the end, but I think it was more emotional exhaustion than physical, with all the crowd noise.

By the way, regarding my previous remark. That is why it's a risk to let the clock go all the way down before attempting the kick on third down or less. A bad snap, and it's the end of the game. Otherwise, you can cover the ball and call TO, and try again (few fans seem to know about this). Even though they did not have any more TOs there, so it is a moot point in this case.

**dandrews** · 09-23-2012, 11:47 PM

Sizzle just tweeted "3 DOWN, 3 TO GO!!" Wonder if that means he plans on coming back in a month?

**Uli2001** · 09-23-2012, 11:47 PM

Originally Posted by alienrace

Yeah, it was actually good by a couple of feet. Just glad the refs didn't blow it and call it no good, being that it's not reviewable.

Can you imagine if they actually did that? What a nightmare for the NFL.

**mjones73** · 09-23-2012, 11:52 PM

Originally Posted by dandrews

Sizzle just tweeted "3 DOWN, 3 TO GO!!" Wonder if that means he plans on coming back in a month?

He's off the PUP list after 6 games, doubt he'll be playing that soon though.

**mjones73** · 09-23-2012, 11:53 PM

Originally Posted by Uli2001

Can you imagine if they actually did that? What a nightmare for the NFL.

I think those refs would have needed an armed escort out of Baltimore.

It's amusing by the way, how many Pats fans are whining it wasn't good on ESPN's site.

**dandrews** · 09-23-2012, 11:53 PM

Originally Posted by mjones73

He's off the PUP list after 6 games, doubt he'll be playing that soon though.

I thought he was on the Designated to return IR?

**mjones73** · 09-23-2012, 11:58 PM

Originally Posted by dandrews

I thought he was on the Designated to return IR?

Nah they placed him on the PUP list unless something has changed since then.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/trainingcamp1...-least-6-games

**Gronkey Kong** · 09-24-2012, 12:03 AM

Welp. I'm gonna go ahead and say a few things:

1. I would not have taken a win or a loss seriously after watching how embarassingly terrible the officiating was tonight. I mean I could pick and choose all the terrible calls and non calls (on both sides) but nothing was more infuriating than watching 3rd down stop after 3rd down stop being extended by 5 yard automatic first down holding calls. And the OPI on Edelman? The unsportsmanlike conduct called on Harbaugh? What an embarrassment of a game.

2. The field goal was good by the rules, but if the goal post extends a little higher I don't think it's good. By the rules though the field goal being good was the right call.

3. The Patriots play calling is horrendous, especially towards the end of the game trying to run out the clock. I hate that I no longer have the faith I used to have in Brady trying to ice the game. When they were up 30-21 I was constantly picturing the final score of 31-30 following a failure by this offense to come up with a clutch win.

4. Love that the crowd was chanting bullshit, but the illegal contact call on Welker was the right call.

I really wish we all had the networking/outsourcing necessary to boycott the NFL for just one week to get the referees back. It is an absolute joke, the game is barely watchable. Goodnight and I sure hope the next time these two teams meet there will be referees that know what they are doing and aren't intimidated by the moment and crowd. It's a shame Smith's performance will likely be overshadowed by the officiating.

**dandrews** · 09-24-2012, 12:05 AM

Originally Posted by mjones73

Nah they placed him on the PUP list unless something has changed since then.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/trainingcamp1...-least-6-games

Thanks for the link.

**Tspot-D-Ravenator** · 09-24-2012, 12:06 AM

Originally Posted by Gronkey Kong

Welp. I'm gonna go ahead and say a few things:

1. I would not have taken a win or a loss seriously after watching how embarassingly terrible the officiating was tonight. I mean I could pick and choose all the terrible calls and non calls (on both sides) but nothing was more infuriating than watching 3rd down stop after 3rd down stop being extended by 5 yard automatic first down holding calls. And the OPI on Edelman? The unsportsmanlike conduct called on Harbaugh? What an embarrassment of a game.

2. The field goal was good by the rules, but if the goal post extends a little higher I don't think it's good. By the rules though the field goal being good was the right call.

3. The Patriots play calling is horrendous, especially towards the end of the game trying to run out the clock. I hate that I no longer have the faith I used to have in Brady trying to ice the game. When they were up 30-21 I was constantly picturing the final score of 31-30 following a failure by this offense to come up with a clutch win.

4. Love that the crowd was chanting bullshit, but the illegal contact call on Welker was the right call.

I really wish we all had the networking/outsourcing necessary to boycott the NFL for just one week to get the referees back. It is an absolute joke, the game is barely watchable. Goodnight and I sure hope the next time these two teams meet there will be referees that know what they are doing and aren't intimidated by the moment and crowd. It's a shame Smith's performance will likely be overshadowed by the officiating.

I started a facebook page for fans to protest the replacement refs and bring back the real NFL referees...

https://www.facebook.com/replacether...therealnflrefs

**akashicrecorder** · 09-24-2012, 12:14 AM

Originally Posted by Gronkey Kong

2. The field goal was good by the rules, but if the goal post extends a little higher I don't think it's good. By the rules though the field goal being good was the right call.

Thanks for letting us all know that if the goal posts were entirely differently designed that the Ravens probably would have lost.