Rollouts, pumpfakes?

**Boulderraven** · 10-21-2012, 04:59 PM

Why they dont use them I have no idea? Just one loss, not that big a deal in the grand scheme of things but geez. The Ravens rarely adjust. Pretty bad performance.

**Paintballguy** · 10-21-2012, 05:00 PM

I'm not one to bash Cam, but the play calling and overall game plan was just downright terrible.

**Beerracuda** · 10-21-2012, 05:07 PM

Rollouts, pumpfakes?

In the world of Cam Cameron, those things exist right next to unicorns and the Loch Ness Monster.

**Jsmoove** · 10-21-2012, 05:15 PM

Was there one slant? He ran one screen play, you have an aggressive defense and you run no slants, on screens, no rub plays. Its the same deep ball or out routes by boldin or torrey..cam gotta fuckin go, then you dean piss who don't know what stunt blitz is its the same middle linebacker tryna shoot the A gap with a center or guard waiting to pick it up, we got 6'2 corners playing 10-15yrds off receivers wtf is that??? But dan piss and killa cam on a boat and blow that shit up they are both fuckin terrible.

**Jayc00** · 10-21-2012, 05:19 PM

A screen, slant, a f'n comback...it's not hard to fucking call Cam. We see what happened when you finally decided to call a screen (congrats to Doss for his first TD). I'm not really mad at the loss, but fuck I hate Cam! And Joe for God sake...pumpfake once or twice dude!

**wickedsolo** · 10-21-2012, 05:41 PM

Well, some of the batted passes were supposed to be screens and frankly Flacco had no time to pump fake at all let alone get the ball out on time.

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**Ravenous1** · 10-21-2012, 05:45 PM

Originally Posted by Beerracuda

Rollouts, pumpfakes?

In the world of Cam Cameron, those things exist right next to unicorns and the Loch Ness Monster.

Just unimaginative, no ability to adjust.

With the Ravens there are no adjustments on either side of the ball.

**Jsmoove** · 10-21-2012, 05:45 PM

Solo all i seen was one other pass that was batted that was suppose to be a screen to Rice. Killa cam sure gives up on those plays after a try or 2 but his deep 10seconds routes he sticks with all game.

**bengtc** · 10-21-2012, 05:53 PM

we are the most vanilla offense in the league

**Jsmoove** · 10-21-2012, 05:55 PM

Vanilla, predictable and flat.

**PerpetuallyBored74** · 10-21-2012, 06:01 PM

Originally Posted by Ravenous1

Just unimaginative, no ability to adjust.

With the Ravens there are no adjustments on either side of the ball.

With coaches like these, it won't matter if we make the playoffs.
As we'll probably win at home, but lose on the road.

**Jsmoove** · 10-21-2012, 06:05 PM

Pees looks like he is in over his head on the sidelines, he is fuckin horrible.

**rharris1986** · 10-21-2012, 06:07 PM

You won't have to worry about winning any home playoff games. They won't be in the playoffs for anyone to worry about that possibility.

**Haloti92** · 10-21-2012, 06:09 PM

We need to spread it out more and be prepared to throw quick short passes to wherever the blitz comes from. We also need to run from the spread formation. We need quick slants, WR inside screens, back-pedal and loft to the RB screens (Packers style) or delayed draws. We need to run more crossing patterns and less "straight-forward for 10-15 yard before outside break or stop" routes.

We basically need to get rid of the ball way more quickly and call plays that at minimum address the pass rush and at maximum exploit the blitz. Obviously, optimally, you want your OL to give you 5+ seconds every play. But when it is obvious that on that day this is not likely to occur, your choice should not be to pray the next play is different from the previous 20 plays (in terms of protection), but rather to adjust your play calls that assume you will not have much time to get rid of it. And when adjusting, I am way in favor of more receivers, less blockers and quicker throws than I am the max-protect crap where we send out 1-2 receivers and keep extra guys in to block. The former strategy means your QB and WRs have to make some pre-snap and very fast decisions, which maybe they cannot be relied on to do, but if done correctly is better than the latter strategy (that we seem to mostly employ if we adjust at all).

**Jsmoove** · 10-21-2012, 06:13 PM

Spread formation??? Whats that???

**GOTA** · 10-21-2012, 06:19 PM

Originally Posted by Jsmoove

Pees looks like he is in over his head on the sidelines, he is fuckin horrible.

What I don't get is that Pees was pretty creative as the DC of the Patriots. He had pressure coming from all over the place and it wasn't exactly loaded with personnel. Outside of Wilfork I don't think even 1 other player is still even on those teams. How is it that Pees could turn Tully Banta-Cain into a real pass rusher but can't do it with any of the Ravens players? At least we saw a corner blitz with Williams getting in there. Nice to see something a little creative.

**Beau Petard** · 10-21-2012, 06:23 PM

jsmoove-
THAT'S a straight line if I ever heard one!

**Jsmoove** · 10-21-2012, 06:24 PM

Originally Posted by GOTA

What I don't get is that Pees was pretty creative as the DC of the Patriots. He had pressure coming from all over the place and it wasn't exactly loaded with personnel. Outside of Wilfork I don't think even 1 other player is still even on those teams. How is it that Pees could turn Tully Banta-Cain into a real pass rusher but can't do it with any of the Ravens players? At least we saw a corner blitz with Williams getting in there. Nice to see something a little creative.

how much of Pees success was a credit to Bill though? We've seen these Bilecheck disciples leave for other jobs and they never have the same success as when they were in N.E.

**Jsmoove** · 10-21-2012, 06:26 PM

Originally Posted by Beau Petard

jsmoove-
THAT'S a straight line if I ever heard one!

the only way i do it bruh.

**GOTA** · 10-21-2012, 06:28 PM

Originally Posted by Jsmoove

how much of Pees success was a credit to Bill though? We've seen these Bilecheck disciples leave for other jobs and they never have the same success as when they were in N.E.

That's an excellent point. I never really thought about it but so many have failed other places that it must be a factor.