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    Re: Way Too Early 2013 Draft/FA Thread: Fixing the Defense



    Quote Originally Posted by BigPlayReceiver View Post
    FWIW I think McPhee comes back 100% 2013. Two knee procedures and the extra weight messed him up this summer. Still could use depth there though.
    Agree.

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    DE Pernell McPhee said he feels like he's 100 percent and his explosion has returned.
    Great news! Hopefully he's not just talking himself up




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    Looking at some of the Ravens draft needs, there are some spots that we could key in on. The Ravens could look at investing another pick in the 'ultra athletic, mismatch TE'. If you are going to have a guy who struggled blocking, he needs to be more productive in your passing offense than Dickson has been. They could always take a late round flyer on a pure bread blocking TE, or look at an UDFA, for competition's sake. Although Bajema could be that guy already.

    It is clear that they need to not only look at the ILB area, but specifically one for Ray's position. Ellerbe seems find for the way they used Bart Scott. Now, they need someone who can man the ship and back it up with his play. I give Jameel McClain a lot of credit, but I'm not sure that he is the guy for that combination.

    You can never have enough CBs.

    They could look at investing another high pick at WR, getting a guy with some size, in the case that Tommie Streeter either takes too long to develop or does not develop.

    Obviously, if there is a LT prospect out there, the Ravens will likely evaluate the situation. It is not easy to find a quality LT after the first round, but it has been done. This is not to say that Michael Oher has been a bad LT, because he has actually played well. However, if you get a guy with a higher ceiling, it would be hard to pass up. Down the road, if that happens, they can look at Osemele at LG.

    I think that they have a good array of defensive line talent. I just think there is a lack of experience. I think that Terrance Cody is going to come around. McPhee seems more like a specialist. Tyson is someone to keep an eye on. Then again, you can never have too many defensive line prospects.

    All in all, there is not much that the Ravens need. They are closing in on their third consecutive double digit win season. I just think that they need to continue to support the younger players through this team transition.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Excellector View Post

    I give Jameel McClain a lot of credit, but I'm not sure that he is the guy for that combination.
    He is not a quality starter in this league...at ILB at least. I've been saying that for the last couple years...he is basically a replacement level player if not a bit lower.

    I was watching the Florida game today and one guy that I was watching was Jon Bostic. I think he can maybe be a steal later in the draft...depends on how he runs this offseason.
    Although Walsh's system of offense can compensate for lack of talent; however, defense is a different story. According to Walsh, talent on defense was essential and could not be compensated for. What did Walsh do in 1981? He acquired physical and talented players on defense.




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    Re: Way Too Early 2013 Draft/FA Thread: Fixing the Defense

    Quote Originally Posted by Raveninwoodlawn View Post
    He is not a quality starter in this league...at ILB at least. I've been saying that for the last couple years...he is basically a replacement level player if not a bit lower.

    I was watching the Florida game today and one guy that I was watching was Jon Bostic. I think he can maybe be a steal later in the draft...depends on how he runs this offseason.
    I agree with you, he's just not athletic enough IMO, and is a solid depth player, that's it.

    I too really like Bostic, he's a sleeper for sure. Florida have a number of really good prospects coming out this year, I also like their OT Nixon, many people think he's way too inconsistent to play LT in the NFL. But if you pick him up in the 3rd (currently his projected round) he could compete with KO at RT possibly pushing KO inside, then eventually maybe he could switch with Oher if he plays well. He has great size, long arms, and better feet than Oher, it just seems like he cannot put it all together. Worth a 3rd round pick IMO though.

    For the first round, I'm beginning to buy more and more into Deion Jordan, I would be more than happy if the Ravens take a risk on this raw but very very promising prospect from Oregan, he could arguably be the most athletic defensive player we've ever drafted, I've seen him line up at slot corner for christ sakes.




  6. #210

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    Quote Originally Posted by leachisabeast View Post
    I agree with you, he's just not athletic enough IMO, and is a solid depth player, that's it.

    I too really like Bostic, he's a sleeper for sure. Florida have a number of really good prospects coming out this year, I also like their OT Nixon, many people think he's way too inconsistent to play LT in the NFL. But if you pick him up in the 3rd (currently his projected round) he could compete with KO at RT possibly pushing KO inside, then eventually maybe he could switch with Oher if he plays well. He has great size, long arms, and better feet than Oher, it just seems like he cannot put it all together. Worth a 3rd round pick IMO though.

    For the first round, I'm beginning to buy more and more into Deion Jordan, I would be more than happy if the Ravens take a risk on this raw but very very promising prospect from Oregan, he could arguably be the most athletic defensive player we've ever drafted, I've seen him line up at slot corner for christ sakes.
    I like Jordan too.

    Check out Skov in this game too...I don't even think this is him at his best as he is recovering from that ACL injury that normally takes 2 years to recover from. I like him too as maybe an option in the 3rd or 4th.
    Although Walsh's system of offense can compensate for lack of talent; however, defense is a different story. According to Walsh, talent on defense was essential and could not be compensated for. What did Walsh do in 1981? He acquired physical and talented players on defense.




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    Re: Way Too Early 2013 Draft/FA Thread: Fixing the Defense

    Quote Originally Posted by Raveninwoodlawn View Post
    I like Jordan too.

    Check out Skov in this game too...I don't even think this is him at his best as he is recovering from that ACL injury that normally takes 2 years to recover from. I like him too as maybe an option in the 3rd or 4th.
    Big fan of Skov. Not as a 1st rounder though. Maybe a 2nd. I also like Chase Thomas.
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    I am feeling optimistic maybe but the way I look at it the Ravens have a pretty bright future so long as they can draft at a reasonable level. My number 1 wish is for a DE who can get the QB with some consistency. Number 2 would a big man in the middle NT etc.... from there we could use a MLB some OLine help, a safety and if there were a value TE available I would make a play for em. The Bernard Pierce pick kinda proves to me that if there is a guy you really like and feel really good about and he is available ...take him. You never have to much depth as this year has shown.
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    Re: Way Too Early 2013 Draft/FA Thread: Fixing the Defense

    Some may look at me funny, but I don't think the Ravens should count out any WR's as well.

    Boldin is in a contract year and getting older (and slower). Jacoby is going to be expensive and really - at this point - is a #3. Doss has shown flashes, but that's it. D. Reed probably won't make the team next year. Thompson has some promise, but who knows how high his ceiling is and finally Streeter is really REALLY raw.

    There is a good possibility that in the 1st and 2nd rounds the Ravens could be looking at some guys like Justin Hunter, Keenan Allen, Tavon Austin, Terrance Williams, etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wickedsolo View Post
    Some may look at me funny, but I don't think the Ravens should count out any WR's as well.

    Boldin is in a contract year and getting older (and slower). Jacoby is going to be expensive and really - at this point - is a #3. Doss has shown flashes, but that's it. D. Reed probably won't make the team next year. Thompson has some promise, but who knows how high his ceiling is and finally Streeter is really REALLY raw.

    There is a good possibility that in the 1st and 2nd rounds the Ravens could be looking at some guys like Justin Hunter, Keenan Allen, Tavon Austin, Terrance Williams, etc.
    If it comes to the Ravens pick and some WR drops to them that then yea they should pull the trigger if he is clearly the BPA and I think they would. The Ravens have never been shy about doing that even when we all moan lol.

    My personal hope though is that the guy who falls to them is not a WR but rather a DE, MLB or OLine
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    Re: Way Too Early 2013 Draft/FA Thread: Fixing the Defense

    Watching the Stanford Oregon game now, Skov has made some nice plays and looks like he reeads the game well.

    Dion Jordan... Looks like a pure speed guy, going deep on the edges to get round the tackle and is just being guided round the pocket, no impact that I've seen.




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    Re: Way Too Early 2013 Draft/FA Thread: Fixing the Defense

    Quote Originally Posted by Lee Van Cleef View Post
    Watching the Stanford Oregon game now, Skov has made some nice plays and looks like he reeads the game well.

    Dion Jordan... Looks like a pure speed guy, going deep on the edges to get round the tackle and is just being guided round the pocket, no impact that I've seen.
    The thing I like about Jordan is he plays in space very well. He isn't just a pass rusher. He can drop into space well and he can play the run well.
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